Despite the loss Russell Westbrook with a 24 point, 12 rebound, 14 assist triple double
He was efficient with 24 points (10⁄16 FG, 2⁄3 3PT, 2⁄4 FT), 13 rebounds, 14 assists, 3 steals, 1 block.
https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3468/russell-westbrook
Only reason Kings were even in it for a while
Only reason the Kings aren’t winless. A veteran minimum 37 year old is their best player what a disgusting franchise
Veteran minimum 37 year old FORMER MVP watch yo mouth
It’s called a tank. Much better than having a mid team which will probably be a 1st round exit. Best case scenario is a gentleman’s sweep by OKC in the finals.
Tell that to Vivek who traded Fox for LaVine instead of more future oriented assets
That fox for lavine after getting derozan was yeah bad
Fox had a year left on his deal and forced his way to San Antonio. Look at what the Raptors got for Siakam and OG. In Siakam’s case, some really bad picks which they ultimately flipped into paying Brandon Ingram $40 million a year. So the reality is that what we got for Fox wasn’t all that bad.
Didn’t they get 3 FRPs for Fox?
One was your guys I believe which was a fake first since it was lotto protected.
Only great asset it the twolves pick in five years lol
I’ll mark my calendar
This makes it sound like they chose to tank and dumped all their players for draft assets in order to rebuild. Nothing of the sort has taken place.
The tank chose them.
Sometimes that’s how it be. Doesn’t matter. That’s how it is!
Yeah lmao
No one on that team is saying lets tank, they’re just terrible and it’s even funnier because it’s the the same formula the bulls used but that didn’t work out and somehow the Kings thought they could do it too.
Kinda like the clippers who want to win but can’t buy one
You say that, but playoff beam team was the most hype I’ve ever seen SAC, just saying
If you want more of that then you gotta play the long game. Get some good draft picks. Build the right way.
Id take a team thats mid over a team purposefully built to suck anyday. Idk how anyone could want their teams to tank, that shit is so lame.
“idk how a fan of a team with no other prospects could want them to have the best chance at a franchise player, that shit is so lame”
American sports in a nutshell where you get rewarded for being trash, and punished for being middling or good. Fuck yeah socialism
Ironic that the Euro approach in sports is unregulated capitalism
You gotta pick a direction. Are you winning it all? Or do you need to draft to get there? For the last 2 seasons the Kings were in that Raptors/Heat/Bulls purgatory of being too bad to make any noise but being too good to get a high draft pick. Gotta choose a direction.
Maybe so but a bad team can easily come up in a few years if managed correctly because they typically have high draft picks and usually end up with more money in free agency. A mediocre squad can at best make a CF under favorable circumstances which is usually once out of however many years until the team is forced to retool
Keegan is significantly better than Westbrook
If that’s the case, he hasn’t shown it.
He has! I don’t know what else to say than watch the games or take kings fans word for it lol. Keegan is a legitimately great defender. Imagine someone telling you Cason Wallace or caruso isn’t as good as Westbrook
Multiple Kings fans in this thread are saying Russ has been your best player. And I would say it’s a stupid comparison to make. Caruso and Cason are exceptional in their roles. Russ is being a relatively efficient and productive lead ball-handler.
No? I see a lakers, Utah, Chicago fan all saying it. It isn’t a take most kings fans would entertain. Westbrook has been fine. He’s good sometimes and god awful more times. I think that he’s here.
To say that he’s better than Keegan is crazy. It’s not something anyone who follows this team would consider, save for the occasional dumbass
Keegan is better than Westbrook but Keegan is also massively overrated
Kings fans thinking Kuminga sucks while Keegan is getting paid $150m to be a 3pt shooter yet has a worse 3P% than Kuminga lol
Keegan is getting paid to play elite defense not to shoot 3s. That’s the primary difference between him and kuminga
Brought them back 22 into the lead
Went to the bench and they lost it lmao
Only 3 turnovers too. What a game. He’s actually been the Kings’ best player. It’s pretty sad what this Sacramento roster is
The 3rd turnover was a perfect dime too, unfortunately Raynoud got butterfingers right when he caught the ball and fumbled it
1⁄3 of Westbrook’s career turnovers are his players dropping passes lmao
Let’s not go overboard
Okay 1⁄4
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Nah. He’s still the Westbrook you Lakers fans know and love. Pretty sure he went 1⁄10 from the field a few days ago.
i wouldn’t be surprised that Westbrick still shows us the Westbrick experience
Why is your flair Rui lol
Rui rules lol
I agree he’s cool.
Keegan has absolutely been the kings best player
15/7/1 on 51% true shooting and 26% from 3 is abysmal. That contract is already not aging well.
He may be an above average defender but he’s more of a negative than a positive right now.
You have not watched Keegan play
He’s been one of my favorite players in the league and I bought my brother in law who is a kings fan his jersey last year.
I watch him plenty. I’m just being realistic.
Shaedon Sharpe and Toumani Camara for my team also got extended to similar numbers to Keegan and have been not that great this year too. It is what it is.
37 year old Russ putting it all out there doesn’t deserve a bum like Lavine as a teammate man just put the rookies out there instead at least they’ll show some fight
LaVine is a good role player being paid like like superstar
Lavine is on the worst contract in the nba imo.
Embiid and PG eating up salary on the Sixers as we speak
They both have had the same number of good games this season as Lavine. PG has had more. He’s had several 20 point games with good defence
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Chalk me up as a dumbass then cause I think a player is better than the concept of a player
You’re either being harsh and/OR biased based on your flair.
Jo was atrocious last night but I do think he’s a better player than Lavine and his contract isnt the worst in the League.
He’s contributing, to his standards that’s subpar, however, what has Lavine done this year except getting yelled at by a season ticket holder??
Embiid is owed money for 3 years and his knees have like 3 days left in em.
He’s contributing
He’s not. The 76ers look better when he doesn’t play
To you, is he better or not than Lavine?
If anything it’s a mid off but Embiid’s contract is not as bad as Lavine’s for what they both give. There’s always the chance that he has a few great nights here and there to help a winning team, Lavine drags down a losing team
Jo’s body let him down what is Lavine’s excuse?
Lavine has one more year. Embiid has 3 more years and his body is destroyed. Embiid knew his body was shot when he signed the extension. I would absolutely not want the Embiid contract over lavine
Lavine plays. Embiid is one slip away from retirement
Reported
Embiid’s is so much worse. Lavine’s contract ends after next season. Embiid has an extra 2 years.
One has knees and one does not
Idk man, the kings aren’t really going for wins.
The embiid and PG contracts are keeping an otherwise promising young cast (and genuine superstar in maxey) from having a feasible route to competitiveness for several years.
The kings aren’t really “wasting” anyone’s prime years or something.
His knees seem like they’re toast. Idk man.
Unless you count Phoenix paying Bradley Beal \(50M this year to not play for them, it would either have to be Lavine on \)47.5M or Paul George $51.7M.
I would probably lean PG because he has another two years on his contract, while Lavine is done after 2026-27.
I dont think hes a good role player either lol
If he was a 3 and no D shooter on a good contract then maybe
McDermott rotting on our bench
Zach is the Steph Curry of Doug McDermott’s
I swear I’ll never get tired of this meme
Malik Monk getting Jamal Murray money
I for one am just happy to see Westbrook balling out at age 37 when everyone said he’d be out of the league at 35.
As a russ Stan , love to see it.
Lavine is a 6th man on a title team
Ajay Mitchell and Aaron Wiggins aren’t negative defensive players
I think I’d take lavine over either, and this is as a thunder fan
Hell no not for his contract
Ofc, I’m just saying as basketball players
Yes but the other two are second round players lol
Idk if hed buy into that
Hope he finds his way on a contender somehow
It’s tough.
Zach is an incredibly talented offensive player but it doesn’t necessarily translate to winning games. He could be the perfect fit on the right team but his contract makes that impossible.
It’s kind of the problem with professional sports in general because Zach’s offensive skills are what sells so naturally, he gets paid. But if you’re trying to put together a winning team, he can’t be taking up that much of the salary cap and still expect to win.
The Kings roster construction is also abysmal. I never understood why they traded for him in the first place just to essentially make Chicago Bulls 2.0. Would have loved to see him go to a better fit where we might have been able to see him succeed but again, that contract makes it difficult.
He needs to be left to just shoot open 3s and hidden away on defence. When he gets hot he can singlehandedly win games, he’s just rubbish on defence and doesn’t do anything outside of shooting.
He’s genuinely been Sacramentos best player this season.
No he has not. Keegan has been significantly better.
Okay, since you’re under every comment: bitch he’s barely played, and he shot 3⁄11 tonight.
It’s one game and you’re looking at box scores lol. I don’t know where it’ll end up but Keegan went into tonight second in the league behind wemby in stocks per game.
“You’re looking at box score.” “He’s second in stocks per game.” I also don’t understand how supposedly great defense automatically makes up for being a legitimately poor offensive player. He’s not a good shooter a great penetrator or good shot creator. Oh, back to your other comment, Cason and Caruso are both better defenders than Keegan Murray, and Cason is a better shooter.
I don’t think Cason or Caruso are definitively better defenders than Keegan. I think it depends on the match up. All three are definitely better than Westbrook who I like but who is on a minimum and was signed a week before the season for a reason.
Keegan isn’t a bad offensive player either. He’s a good cutter and makes smart plays. Genuinely similar to Caruso tho with a
Caruso isn’t a good offensive player! He’s a negative shooter and ball-handler and doesn’t have the size to make up for any of that with inside scoring. So if you’re comparing Keegan to Caruso offensively, you’re admitting he’s not good offensively. Caruso has been all-defensive first. Cason has gotten all-defensive votes. Keegan hasn’t gotten a single all defensive team vote.
Well the defensive team noms aren’t very good imo. I think Keegan is better than Caruso against big wings, worse against guards. Overall I’d say they’re equivalent defensively.
I’m moreso saying Caruso isn’t some net negative player you have a convo about if he’s better than westbrook. Keegan is better on offense.
Caruso’s best scoring season is worse than Keegan’s worst
I never said anything about anybody being net negative players. Caruso also doesn’t do anything that overlaps with what Russ does. Get that through your head. Contributes more to winning more does not necessarily equal being a better player, especially when you’re trying to compare across two vastly differently talented and coached teams. I think IHart is more important to the Thunder than JDub or Chet. He’s not a better player. And if all defensive teams—which wasn’t even the sole thing I offered. I said Keegan Murray hasn’t gotten a *single vote*—aren’t “good,” whatever that means, you think saying the 6’7 forward matches up better defensively with forwards somehow makes him as good as smaller defensive players, when one of those smaller players was the key piece in stopping Nikola fucking Jokic for more than half a series, and the other has consistently given their all-star matchups their worst games of the season.
Westbrook has been actively bad all season. You saying Westbrook is our best player indicates to me that you think Keegan is an actively bad player. If you are just unaware of Westbrook’s overall performance this year then you can just say that and we can move on.
And I’m sorry but size matters? Keegan being 6 7 makes him a better defender than if he was 6 3.
Keegan has been in the league a much shorter time and defensive teams are always oversampling winning teams because no one watches the kings lol I’m not blaming them/you for that but don’t have such strong takes about players on a team you don’t watch
Who cares if Keegan is playing good defense when the worst defender in the NBA(Lavine) is right beside him
Shifting the goalposts I see
You’ve said this multiple times in this thread and even if it’s true because of defensive consideration, it’s not saying much. Keegan is taking 6 3pa and shooting 27%. On top of that his playmaking is basically non-existent and he has questionable ball handling so he can become somewhat of a blackhole. He’s not shooting the ball well and is only averaging a few more points than Westbrook for the season despite averaging significantly more minutes.
The real point is if people are discussing whether 37 yo Westbrook is the Kings’ best player and the alternative argument you have is that Keegan Murray is, they’re in real trouble.
No one who watches this team argues about if Westbrook is better than Keegan tho.
Keegan will never be an offensive engine. He’s a winning player with elite defensive ability who’s shown a track record of hitting 34-38% from three. He’s coming back from hand surgery and he’s always started a bit cold. I’m not worried about his offense at all. This just feels like the thing where winning non stats based players only get love if they’re on a good team. Similar to Caruso in that
You have a broader point that on a championship team I’d rather have Keegan than Russ. But on the kings right now, they need someone who can create and distribute because that impacts the game more than an individual guard/wing defender. That’s where Russ at least adds to the team while Keegan doesn’t really.
What does the kings sub say then
He’s played like 5 games and has his worse efficiency ever
hard to make that argument when he’s barely played this season tbh
Not the biggest westbrook fan but he’s the best player on the kings lol. I’ll give him that
40 mins too. Kings are so cooked. I cant believe Doug Christie is still employed
Erik Spoelstra wouldn’t even be able to get this team to the play-in. Blame Vivek and Scott Perry
No the worst part about Christie is that he tried to take lavine out a couple games ago & lavine told him to fuck off and Christie just let Lavine stay & subbed out someone else. If you’re giving up the decision making to a BUM like Lavine, idc if you’ve got spo’s tactics, you’re worthless.
Hell, if he did that to Spo, Pat would have exiled his ass to the shadow realm for a bag of chips in return.
Wait. What?
I dont think you realize how terrible Christie has been
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We need to start a conversation. People blame Mike Brown for icing out Keon Ellis, hoping new coach will use him more. They hire Christie and turns out he also refuses to use Ellis. There must be something both coaches saw during practices which leads to the same decision.
Really hope Keon Ellis gets traded to a team that actually uses him
If its back to back coaches refusing to use Keon, maybe he just sucks?
He probably could, bottom of the west is pretty bad lol
Also, its more Monte’s fault than Scott Perry. Monte gave Perry this dog shit roster
No, just Blame Vivek.
What are the reasons to blame Scott Perry in your mind? He’s 24 games into his regime.
Lowest paid coach for a damn good reason. That reason? He’s fucking awful and necessary for the tank.
No no people who haven’t watched a single kings game all season have convinced themselves he’s our best player
You’re so obsessed with Russ that you missed the fact that he’s talking about Doug Christie, lol
Whose Doug the only two people in the organization are Keegan and Russ
Yeah it seems like some of you guys on here want the Kings to hire Mike Malone or Bud or Thibs and try to make a run for the play-ins. Kings are trying to tank. Doug Christie is part of the plan.
Speaking of people surprisingly still employed… I was surprised to see Mike Woodson on the sideline tonight and I guess he is an “associate head coach” for the Kings. What value could he bringing them lol
Idk Ill take this over consistent 10th seed lol
their best player is 37 year old player on veteran minimum contract lol
To be fair that 37 y.o is a former mvp and first ballot hof
Best contract in the NBA
I said what I said 🤷🏼♂️
And that’s the problem
How come you’re not much of a Westbrook fan? Just curious
Oh god
Russ cant win with these cats
Russ can’t win with anybody
Westbrook has played with Harden, Kawhi, PG, Beal, Jokic, Murray, Lebron, AD and won a full playoff series ONE TIME since KD left him
dont ever diss my goat
On Russell Westbrook day of all days too smh.
It’s a KD stan
won a full playoff series ONE TIME since KD left him
untrue
Lmao, really including Beal and Kawhi in that? The same Kawhi that got injured in both years Russ was his teammate?
He should’ve attempted more shots towards the end of the game but LaVine and DeRozan had other ideas
I think that’s probably the first time anybody has ever said that about Russ
Russ been fun, down 20, up 20, he stays being unpredictable
He’s entertaining as hell
Nothing beats the Russ Roulette
Washington Westbrook statline
I love Russ, but deadass it would have been more 5⁄16 from the field, 16 points, 15 rebounds, 19 assists.
They would’ve won though.lol.
He ruining his triple double win %. Imma need him to stop getting them now.lol.
Lol I was thinking the same thing while watching the game
I had the same worry in Washington but they started winning. I have no hope the same will happen with the Kings. Great fans but synergy wise this might be the worst team
Old man almost lead both teams in every stat.
Unc still got it
Let him cook
Trade him to a contender. I believe he wants to win
Pretty funny that no one sign him when Russ was FA, just happy that the Kings picked him up, and he performed so well
Hey fellas y’all still seeing MITWestbrook round here?
Shows up in our sub from time to time. Can’t seem to make heads and tails with our roster and is confused. Don’t blame em.
It’s a bad time to be a russ fan. Spending his last few years on a team like this is sad
Crazy how you can have no suitors then get called up a week before then go on to drop like 4 triple doubles in first quarter of season. Surely theres a contending team to take him
The problem in Denver ended up them being too reliant on him when MPJ was clearly hurt in playoffs and they had no depth so they needed WB to do more then he reliable can at this point.
On the right contending team in small doses that needs playmaking and doesn’t need shooting like the Lakers did he can be a good fit.
Underrated passer
Rockets or Wolves should have picked up him.
Yeah, Westbrook. Don’t make Jokic catch you up in triple-double that easily.
Kings gotta figure a way to play Demar and Lavine under 25 minutes. It is getting ridiculous. They are such innovators to create a new way of losing every fucking game. These two still prolly thought they are some hot shit or something.
I am so mad that the Nuggets asked this guy not to take his vet minimum player option.
I know the reason, but come on guys. Make it work.
As nuch as a fan favorite Bruce brown is… Russ would be soooooo good this year in the 2nd unit. Jonas, thj, Watson and Russ would be the best bench unit in the league
Idk what happened to bruce, he’s half the player he used to be. I’d take last year’s westbrook over current brown any day
He’s their best player. Get him on a contender
Most undervalued player from a P/E perspective lol
He always goes off against the pacers for some reason
But but but I heard Monk is a super great player and he is very valuable in trade packages
Monk has been good for the kings, this was his worst game of the season. Make no mistake though, Russ is by far their best player. Monk is not a bum like Lavine
Keegan is by far the kings best player
I’m told Kuminga is worth multiple FRPs, but isn’t being treated like that.
Probably invention of your mind
Beastbrook played tonight
I’ve read this headline before.
im here for the Russ appreciation
Big game for the tank
I miss him
vintage game from Westbrook ruined by Lavine and Murray being total ass
He back!
W
Too bad their was so much bad blood between him/HOU and him/Durant cuz HOU would have been an ideal spot for him this year. Shit the way we’re playing now, I’d have liked him to be back here….
A winning % of 72.9 when he has a triple double. Let Russ cook Sacramento!!
Westbrook is a winning player. Trade Westbrook to a playoff team
He’s trying to keep Jokic from getting the triple double title.
Why did they change his stats from 13 rebounds to 12? Its like they saw i hit on fanduel when he had 13 and took 1 away I have a screenshot showing 13
2017 has returned
Not too long ago he was dueling with jokic in the fourth he still got it
he is the kings best trade asset with his minimum contract and his pretty good efficiency this season, only a matter of time till a trade hopefully
OP is sct brn
Empty stats
Which is crazy bc he also kinda sucked lol defense was horrible in the 4th
Lmao your bumass hating on him in every comment
No, no just very defensive of Keegan. I like Westbrook I have his jersey. Keegan is just significantly better
Hell no 😂
You guys will never understand how bad Russ is unless you watch him play. He will always get his stats and it’ll look great on paper, but bro absolutely destroys synergy on the court.
Westbrick can score 50 points every game until he retires, he will always be in our hearts and souls and Westbrick 🫡
Corny low iq bum