Ryan Nembhard says he thinks the Mavs are a little “too focused” on getting Anthony Davis the ball in the paint
Build around Ryan and Cooper
Lively should be included in this but Nico probably fucked his career up by firing the best medical personnel in the business… I fucking hate that man.
Nico sucks but Lively had injury problems even before that. Some people are just injury prone.
They didn’t realize Lively had a broken foot and tried to have him play on it. Inexcusable incompetence
what in the actual fuck, how can they miss that?
“We already checked his foot. 100% healthy.”
“Did you check his other foot?”
“He’s got two feet?!”
Their medical staff is Dr. Zoidberg.
Dr spaceman
Such an underrated sitcom negligent doctor
Just such a great series in general
And Dr. Nick Riviera
In Nico’s defense, the world average is less than 2 feet per person
Well when you fire your trainer who is considered one of the best in the leauge selected to be the one for the Olympics because she was in Luca’s camp it ain’t shocking
Nico Harrison things
Should we scan his foot? Nah. Seems like a lot of work.
it’s crazy because a simple scan/basic medical competency would have caught it
Lively is too nice of a guy not putting the situation on blast…
when did this happen wth.
Last year. I want to say around the time they were trying to make Luka come back early from a calf sprain which his medical team told the Mavs to fuck off.
It’s only his third season in the NBA. I wouldn’t label someone as injury prone that early. Also a few of his injuries aren’t the type you associate with chronic injury (like when he broke his nose).
He was also injured in college :D If you miss 50% of games 3 seasons in you are injury prone, could he change that? Sure, but until he does he will have the injury prone tag.
(I very much hope he does, because i love Lively :) )
I’m just saying it’s too early. People were saying the same thing about Curry and his ankles. I just think it would be a mistake to make any roster changes based on that.
Imagine if the Warriors had traded Curry instead of Monte Ellis.
I mean curry was injury prone until he wasn’t, but that real fear of him hurting himself was a thing until his 2012 surgery
He was so injury prone that the 4 year $44 million dollar contract was considered a gamble on GSW’s part.
Curry is the exception to the rule, most players that are injury prone stay that way.
Wow a whopping one example
Oh my bad, did you want me to write a book in my comment?
Of course! This is Reddit. Only the highest standards for discourse are allowed!
Oh yeah i think trading Lively would be stupid, nobody is paying a lot for him right now ( probably a bad 1st round pick at the most) considering his health risks and his upside if he can get healthy is probably being 3rd best defensive big in the league (Behind Wemby and Chet).
Makes total sense for the Mavs to see if he can get healthy next year and go from there contract wise.
He was hurt before the NBA
He’s only 21 years old.
We’ll be here waiting for you when you finally realize he’s injury prone in 5 years.
It’s more likely to happen once Lively is moved. Suddenly the acceptance stage will arrive
Luckily injury-prone players often get healthier over time! The non-stop grind will definitely help
He’s less injury prone than he is accident prone, but it ends up being the same thing. It sucks that one of his greatest strengths when he’s on the floor is how reckless and aggressive he is. He needs to learn how to play within himself.
I don’t disagree, but at least accident prone is something that’s fixable.
I think trading Lively would work out for Dallas like the Tyson Chandler trade worked out for New Orleans; i.e. not at all.
Yeah, I think ‘injury prone’ leverage in any kind of trade scenario is real so that we wouldn’t get great value. Chances are good he will find a way to stay on the floor.
At a minimum, that makes it worth waiting to trade him. I love the kid, though. I hope we keep him around, and I think he will figure it all out.
Zion has entered the chat.
Lively doesn’t demand the same pay-rate as Zion. There’s significantly less downside to keeping him.
Another reason that’s a bad example is that there’s no question about Lively’s motivations and motor like there is with Zion.
Let’s hope not. Lively is truly a great kid, with a bright future, he has already learned and progressed so much, as a perfect rim protector, floor runner, lob finisher, short roll decision maker, and has much more potential to come as a possible unicorn stretch 5 against the appropriate matchups …
… but yes, firing Casey was one of the first boulders of the pending avalanche downfall of the Dallas Mavericks.
Two names, that don’t come up enough when praising those who were commited to building a champion, and opposing the direction the Adelson’s/DuMont, and all their cronies like Nico and the inferior training staff have taken the franchise :
Casey Smith
Dennis Lindsey
Those two men contributed so much to the NBA FINALS RUN, and should be venerated, almost as much as the Adelson’s, DuMont, Nico are rightfully and hatefully criticized.
The next GM is going to have the easiest job regardless of the current contracts.
Dude will have next to zero pressure, play the waiting game, and have 3 good younger guys to build around and one is a hell of a rookie already. Hope Lively recovers.
This but unironically
I remember watching the first game of the season between Mavs/Spurs and thinking Nembhard was the best point guard they played. Turns out he is the only point guard on the roster and while he will likely be exploited in the playoffs, that doesn’t mean he can’t win you games. The fact they started their 18 year old PF at PG because he has ball skills is insane. I have no clue what the fuck that organization is doing.
ryan nembhard is 5’11 lol, unless you’re allen iverson in his prime, there’s no building around that LMAO
Building around a 6’2 PG in today’s NBA will fail. It’s very rare a short player leads a team too success and championships in the NBA. Curry is best example ever of short PG taking over the league. Rebuilding around this guy would be worthless I hate to say it but basketball revolves around height little men rarely succeed in the NBA.
Nobodys saying build around him alone as the best player but building around coop and him is definitely doable
Ryan is easily their best player so they should listen to him
Yeah, I like Ryan. He’s been playing great. We had a significant contingent wondering why we didn’t draft Andrew’s brother. Glad he found a home.
Another undersized guard was exactly what you guys needed!
You fool. We’re actually drowning in 6’5 combo guards
Million times better than having D’Angelo Russell play the point.
Yes, D’Angelo Russell is also not what the Pacers needed on their roster.
D’Angelo Russell is literally the least likely player in the NBA to ever play for the Pacers. Diametrically opposed playstyles is an understatement. It’s so weird for this person to target Russell of all players
I don’t think lack of size is what the mavs lack lol
I was responding to somebody with a Pacers flair.
He’s surprisingly good on defense for an undersized guard. There were a few instances where Luka tried to iso him and lead to missed shots.
Tbf a team of tj McConnells sounds terrifying
This sounds like a 2k MyTeam challenge. “Win by 10 and don’t have 20 turnovers.”
Lol
He asked to not be taken. We had a log jam at PG/SG in theory.
Crazy how a week into the regular season we were signing Mac Mcclung to play point lol
Oh did he? I didn’t know.
He’s a lot smaller than Andrew and wasn’t as good as a scorer but a better passer. As a Gonzaga fan I’ve been presently surprised how well he’s been doing. Figured his size would limit his potential.
Ryan would not get minutes on the Pacers after this year. Haliburton at PG, followed by the best backup PG in the league. Pacers 3rd PG is Andrew Nembhard.
I always see these posts from Pacers fans and it always confuses me. The Pacers don’t need more point guards, they have the best PG lineup in the league and all three of them are going nowhere. It’s not that hard to understand why they did not take him. He would be fighting for minutes with his own brother and would never play.
unironically hes not wrong imo. as a lakers fan i watched them do the same thing for years which would inevitably end up in AD isos 20 ft from the rim with 5 seconds left on the shot clock and the defense shading a second defender followed by a contested mid range jumper
that sort of sequence is not why AD has been an effective and efficient scorer throughout his career, its his finishing ability and touch closer to the rim off the catch
Agreed watching Ayton has been a breath of fresh air. He’s so good as a mid range shooter off those PnR. AD always felt forced
this is the first time I have seen ayton praised for something in years lol
All he needed was Luka and Lebron being like “just show up and be in the right spot and we’re going to get you paid. “
The people who comment on this subreddit are largely basketball dumb. If you have any basketball knowledge at all, Ayton with a playmaker like Luka was a no brainer.
People clowned on the Pacers for trying to get Ayton, but that was the same season they acquired Haliburton. Ayton can’t do shit for himself but he can feast if someone else sets the table. You put him next to a playmaker, which CP3 already demonstrated, and he can be a good player.
Yeah AD’s extended midrange should be one of those “keep them honest” tools. He has it and defenders need to respect it, but it shouldn’t be his go-to.
Crazy this shit gets upvoted.
Can you really not see how it’s a facetious comment?
To be fair there’s no /s and people say some crazy shit.
He’s really nice.
Yes but if they really float the idea of blowing it up with AD, you want him to have at least a little value. The season is fucked anyway, why are you pointing out the obvious bro?
I wish people would Stop repeating this dumb shit. GM’s know AD’s value, a few inflated games aren’t moving the needle
The dude they tried to get it to, had 2 points
He didn’t have those 2 points until 8:08 to go in the 4th then was subbed out ~20 seconds later and sat the rest of the game.
Yeah they brought him back in down 30 after an injury scare in the 3Q just so he could score and not finish with 0 points
AD era in Dallas is beyond parody
Damn so we’re about to have LeBron 8 point streak and AD 2 point streak huh
The thing is, when in shape, and with another star, hes a serious talent, but in the middle of this, just waiting for the trade
And not 32 years old
Yup and if it was 1991 MJ would be a treat to watch unfortunately its 2025 and neither of these things are going to happen
😂😂😂 of course a Laker fan is trying his level best to make it seem like AD is anything but garbage at this point.
Hes not garbage at all, whats garbage is the situation hes in
The only thing he is ‘garbage’ at is being available to play basketball consistently, unfortunately.
My favorite part about it is that he was trying so hard to get that first basket too… Against the 3rd string for the Thunder. Brandon Carlson and I think Kenrich shut him down a few times before he got the bucket in the 4th.
He’s worse than Lakers Westbrook
They were down 30 and OKC’s starters were out
It was functionally a 0 point game
Mikko Rantanen had more points for Dallas last night.
The race car driver?
Idk how well they got him the ball he only took a couple shots
Welcome back Steve nash
he seriously is pretty Nashy!
Nashty
Another J Kidd coaching masterclass.
You mean the same coach who decided he’d rather play his PF at PG instead of Nembhard? That guy?
To get Harrison fired
Like that type of assertiveness from a rookie PG. Most rookies wouldn’t make that type of statement even if they believe it in their head.
If you like the old school, traditional PG which is almost non-existent in today’s game, he’s a guy to cheer for.
You say that like he doesn’t drop 30-15 every night.
….. wait he doesn’t? Why not?
This was always the issue with AD and why he could never take the torch from LeBron. When he’s locked in and focused he’s one of the best 2-way players in the league and is capable of 25⁄10 every night but for whatever reason he’ll have nights like last night where he just hates basketball.
It’s because he’s an elite play finisher and a hot and cold creator.
On a team devoid of playmaking talent, he’s going to perform subpar compared to playing with All NBA LeBron for a half decade.
It’s not that deep. That’s who he’s always been.
It reminds me a little bit of Dwight Howard, creating their own shot isn’t their game, but they’re basically in tiers of their own next to someone who can create the shot opportunity for them
When Dwight’s cooking he can drop step or running hook his way into a nice offensive explosion. But is not consistent like Hakeem.
He needed Jameer, he needed Nash a few years before he got him, he needed Harden.
AD needs a LeBron, a to lesser extent a Jrue, to look like the top 75 player he rightfully is.
its not a coincidence he played his best in lakers and pelicans when rondo was there.
I miss watching Rondo play.
Fun and all time great PG
I will forever hate Rondo for his trade to the Mavs that essentially killed that season when they were #1 in the league in offensive efficiency until that point (and he just gave up in the middle of a playoff game) BUT I did see a really cool behind the back fake from him one time and that was fun to watch.
Same, such a great floor general.
I get your point, but it’s not exactly uncommon for a big man to need a good playmaker on their team to unlock their full potential.
That was even a major point of contention between Shaq and Kobe. Shaq can be as dominant as he wants, he still needs someone to get him the ball.
Obviously it’s not quite the same because all Shaq needed was the ball in his hands within 12 feet of the basket, but you’d be hard pressed to think of a traditional big who did well without a great playmaker.
I think Shaq can sleep to walk into 28ppg with anybody that can make a post entry pass.
AD’s physicality I think comes and goes and he is not as reliable as a post scorer than Shaq, and AD’s shot diet has too much variance towards what he’s only okay at.
Shaq would still be All NBA first team on this Dallas team.
Creating isn’t their thing, but demanding the chance to anyway…
Dwight Howard at least knew his game was at the rim and didn’t try to shoot a bunch of post fades and mid range pulls up.
This is incredibly revisionist, the end of Dwight’s prime had him known for forcing offensive touches he wasn’t good enough at converting
At the rim. Not 15 feet out.
Like I said Dwight may have been a bit delusional about his post game but he was at least realistic enough to not try and be Dirk
Imagine if Davis and Paul are one the same team during their primes.
Im not saying i agree with it but i believe that was some of the reasoning in going after westbrook. At the time westbrook was actually crushing it with the pick and roll scheme. AD missed the first half of the season and they traded everyone to bring him there so it obviously was a terrible move but i think the theory still had merit in theory.
LeBron and AD and Russ had some decent pick and roll possessions
But the poor shooting of the entire roster doomed them as well as Russ’ athleticism dropped off a cliff from Houston days. It was easy to scheme against us.
The other problem is that I remember some unique actions where Bron and Russ would get creative in the inverted pick and roll, but Russ would do non on ball things sparingly.
I remember wanting him to be more of a screener and cutter, but he just wouldn’t do it he wanted the ball.
And then of course, for the Clippers and Denver, his cutting and screening numbers went way up 🙄
Great take. Give me another one
7⁄11 was a part time job.
Wait, that means…..
yup, no benefits
This is why he’ll never be an all time great like a KG or Dirk. He’s a full tier down in the great second option category.
He’s not a better two way player than Giannis or Embiid
one of the best
Because he’s a giant pussy. The idea of AD is fantastic, but the actual player is so annoying to watch on the court.
You’re just saying that because he feels out of position playing center…
What? He’s built like a center? Then why does he insist he wants to play PF?
I mean, he plays soft af at PF too. I’m being a little mean and overly critical. But he is a frustrating player to watch.
The eternal AD question.
if you watch the clip, you’ll hear the reporter mention they’re fronting and giving heavy backside help which makes it really hard to enter the ball to the big man
i know redditors only see box scores, but AD having 2 guys preventing him from merely catching the ball is actually very helpful to the offense and it relies on the guys around him to make them pay
40% of the defense being allotted to just stop you from catching the ball is actually a great offensive player
AD came back and the Mavs won 3 out 4 before OKC lol like
ik we all want to AD to suck so the luka trade looks even worse, but it’s so weird seeing everyone dogpile on him in this thread, in the words of steph curry, “Who hasn’t had a bad game vs okc?”. Furthermore this exact clip is clearly talking about poor game planning and adjustments vs the “ad is washed” narrative that everyone’s apparently taken from it.
Can’t shoot or pass, and also gets incredibly passive for periods of a time.
This dude and his brother are both ballers
Mavs are Nembhard’s team now.
Look at me, I’m the captain now (no offense Klay)
I’m stunned to hear the mavs are focused
I can’t hear this video the mic is off
“You don’t have the leeway”
That’s my former Zag PG. Best passer in program history. Don’t even bring up that insane, antivaxer’s name.
Absolutely criminal the pacers passed on him for Kam jones
I think this is way better for him. Kyrie is out for a while. He’s now the starting pg and playing good minutes. I just don’t think it would be the same on the pacers
These people treat players like they exist in pez dispensers. Nembhard wouldn’t beat his brother out for 3rd PG spot. He’s not beating TJ McConnell and there’s no fucking alternative world he beats Haliburton out. So now you have a weird competition between brothers over minutes this year and next year he’d never touch the floor. He is a small PG, he’s not like his brother who has legitimate size. You have to play him at PG.
Pacers were never going to take him, it doesn’t make sense. Kam Jones has been nothing but why would they draft a PG with the best PG lineup in the league in a year?
I heard he asked people not to draft him in the second round so he could try to pick his situation. Mavs definitely had an opening at PG with kyrie out
After watching the game, yeah. It was ridiculous how they were force feeding him, regardless of how bad the results were, as if there was some special prize for having AD score.
There’s no amount of scoring opportunities they can give AD to boost his trade value.
He’s about to turn 33 this spring. He’s made of glass. That’s what controls his trade value. Nobody in an NBA front office is going to be fooled by a quick scoring hot streak.
They need to prepare themselves for the reality that his value is going to be something along the lines of “Zach LaVine and two second round picks” or “Paul George and a protected pick swap”
Prolly trying to get his PPG up to increase his trade value
Yeah, but literally nobody is going to trade for AD on that basis. He’s a known quantity. Feeding him constantly to get him to average 25 ppg for a few weeks isn’t going to make a difference.
He’s 32 - His trade value isn’t going up from here on out.
It would if he scored 40 on 25 shots lol. The problem is they’re forcing it in ways that aren’t helpful. And AD is looking like he’s past his prime sadly.
Even if he did, who cares? Everyone knows what kind of player he is at this point. Nobody thinks that averaging 30+ ppg is something he’s suddenly going to be capable of going forward when he didn’t do it in the first 13 seasons of his career. He is what he is now. Having a good game or two isn’t going to boost his trade value.
Everyone who might be interested in him already knows they can’t count on him to be healthy. Relying on him is a high-risk, high-ish reward gamble. Him scoring 40 in a regular season game in December doesn’t change that one bit. That’s why the market for him is going to be so underwhelming.
They should trade him, but fans need to be prepared to get something like Vuc, Huerter, Okoro and two second round picks in return. It’s going to be depressing.
That’s just not true tho - if he looked explosive and comfortable in a leading role in Dallas, playing both 4 and 5, teams would be more likely to think they’ll get value from him this season. That matters. He is a difficult player to value rn, esp coming up for a big contract- he’s being watched closely rn to see how he projects.
See how he projects? He’s 32. Nobody is unsure of what kind of player he is or what he brings to the table. He is still a very very good player. But again, he’s 32. He’s not going to magically become a #1 option at this age. He’s not developing. He’s declining. If he strings together a few good weeks of scoring because that’s what Dallas thinks will boost his trade value, literally everyone will see that. It’s not going to be a secret that tricks the rest of the league into thinking he is now someone who could be the leading scorer on a contender or something like that.
They’re wondering about his athletecism/durability/stamina moving forward- what does his aging curve look like and where is he on it. Can he dominate both nights of a back to back? Can he ever play back to backs again? That’s what they’re trying to project- not his growth curve.
There has to be a better option than Jason Kidd.
Thank god Nico is gone or else Ryan would be banished to the G-League
Build the team around Ryan and Cooper
He looks like an even more depressed Earl Sweatshirt.
Had the same thought. Haha
He has some pretty eyes 😍
You sound like you’re nemb-hard
who wouldnt be
Profile pic checks out
True
Canadians are beautiful.
what is the point of a microphone?
It is for those who watch the postgame live, or recorded on Youtube.
This is from a reporter who was there, and also recorded on his own.
WHAT
Wrong type of microphone to use for this application, really. But you’re likely hearing the recording from the reporter’s mic and not the feed from the mic you see.
AD has a few bad games and everyone in here acting he’s been a bum his whole career.
Yeah who wants to be trading for a scoreless bum
Didn’t know the Mavs had their pick this upcoming draft. They definitely need to trade AD and go full tank mode. They can pair Flag with an extremely nice player and build around that.
It’s the last year they have control of their pick for a while. It’s why this sub was so adamant they had to trade AD, even though his perceived value is at an all-time low.
I don’t think that means don’t give AD the ball, but when you try to force it in, you waste half the clock or get a bad shot
God, please accelerate this timeline I want off this fucking roller coaster.
FNH
OH NO HE DIDN’T
The Anthony Davis experience. Can’t shoot, can’t really create for himself, doesn’t drive to the rim, can’t play make worth a damn but wants to post up and dominate down low while also being super passive for extended periods of time. The man will drop 12⁄7 in the first quarter then not shoot the ball again until the 4th.
His defense is amazing and he’s such a great play finisher, but he wants to play like he’s Dirk or KG while having none of the intensity or bags
Lakers didn’t have nearly this much trouble feeding AD inside. Mavs have always had this trouble on getting their primary option the ball. Used to be 10seconds of our big holding the ball at the top of the key as LuKai tried to shake their man. For AD, Kidd would often just have him dribble inside or back down from the 3pt line in. We just don’t know how to adapt to these looks
AD wasn’t the primary option in LA, that was Lebron. The Mavs don’t have a playmaker anywhere near Lebron of two years ago.
Now kidd is gonna bench him and sell my fantasy
They should DFA AD. It could be the funniest thing.
Spit your shit, man. Team’s not going anywhere with AD.
A rim running big’s game is not sexy, especially for a talent and career that AD has/had, but would serve him well at this stage of his career.
Dropping him the ball so he can go to work just doesn’t not end up well.
and hes right
look
AD is a great player when healthy
hes just a really bad fit for this roster and where we are as a team
Anyone know where I could buy his singlet?
Nothing worse than trying to force a post up and the guy can’t get position. But now the whole offense has to stop because “he has to touch the ball”
Go Zags
Why he got 6yr old girl hair?
AD is only good at getting hurt
Mavs “playmakers” couldn’t get the ball up top to AD. Send him back to the lakers for Reaves so Broncic can show them how’s it done
Is this the same dude that was on Indiana I didn’t know he got traded there
No it’s his brother.
I didn’t see much focus on anything.
you’re an okc fan i doubt u see or pick up on many things
Counting wins and the irrelevancies of lesser men?
Teams figured out years ago it’s easier to deny AD the ball than try to defend him face up. It’s crazy that you can completely negate such a talented player for large parts of the game this way. He never found an answer to this strategy.
Close your mouth
I feel bad for the Mavs.
They were on a nice 3 game winning streak and ran into OKC
Dont feel bad, this is their karma for being the worst fanbase
worst is crazy. there are definitely worse