SloshaPacana

53 | 7 hours ago

It would be extremely hilarious if they go on a losing streak with him and the on/off nerds are right again

Brod24 | Magic

24 | 6 hours ago

Eh the on off stuff doesn’t really capture the nuance of situations.

Right now on/off has Franz as one of the worst players on the team because the suggs -Bane-AB lineups have been killing opponent bench lineups while Franz has been sandbagged by underperformers.

JoeBiden2020FTW | Lakers

-1 | 6 hours ago

There’s a pretty decent sample size over multiple seasons of Franz+Suggs being better than Franz+Paolo

Of course, Paolo is 23, and can become a radically different player going forward. But the past version of Paolo is a worse fit next to Franz than Suggs is.

Brod24 | Magic

19 | 5 hours ago

It’s all circumstantial.

23-24 Isaac has the highest net rating on the team. Isaac played with Franz and suggs but existed almost exclusively in Paolo’s backup minutes. The best lineup was still suggs-Harris-Franz-Paolo-Wendell

24-25 when Paolo was out Franz and suggs were playing with a complete rotation. Then Franz, suggs, Moritz, miss significant time right before Paolo comes back. Paolo has to play with Trevelin Queen and Caleb Houstan. The best lineup was still Cole-kcp-Franz -Paolo-Wendell

This year the best lineup is still suggs-bane-Franz-paolo-Wendell.

If paolo was problematic we’d see those creep in to the granular lineup data and not exclusively the macro level on-off stuff.

Kait0yashio | Magic

13 | 5 hours ago

no you cant do that, you cant add context to situations that people pay no attention to and just look at numbers. but also Mo also went on a tear after paolo went down until his acl

Broski25of25 | Spain

10 | 5 hours ago

Oh I know you. You are the guy who hates Paolo and posts about him. You said something like Magic fans would rather lose with him than win with someone else.

LouieM13 | NYK

5 | 6 hours ago

Paolo just needs to learn to pass the ball more frequently and realize when his shot isn’t hitting.

browndude10 | United States

4 | 5 hours ago

and stop taking bad shots all the time

Brod24 | Magic

1 | 5 hours ago

I do think he needs to learn how to pass out of doubles better. Think having the team brick so many open threes last year developed some bad habits.

JoeBiden2020FTW | Lakers

0 | 5 hours ago

He needs to be a screener, like a short roll connector. Quick touches, fast decisions, ball is flying. No more ISOs.

Off the ball maybe should get comfortable with the dunker spot, low-man stuff. Maybe clean up some offensive boards.

Then focus his energy on being a defensive bulldog. Try to get some stops and more transition opportunities for the team.

Brod24 | Magic

7 | 5 hours ago

Nah he really just needs to make decisions faster.

press_Y | Knicks

5 | 5 hours ago

On/off nerds are the dumbest people in the room

Smekledorf1996

-3 | 5 hours ago

If Paolo had a on/offs then nobody would say this

People pick and choose when numbers are actually valid for their argument

lilzoe5 | DAL

4 | 6 hours ago

You mean with him

SloshaPacana

2 | 6 hours ago

Yeah edited

drjisftw | Pacers

0 | 6 hours ago

EWING THEORY

JoeBiden2020FTW | Lakers

-1 | 6 hours ago

They’ll just say he’s rusty and it will take time to integrate Paolo. They’ll say the team’s ceiling is highest with Paolo. He’s only 23 years, yada yada yada

These things take years to play out. Then after a few years, they’ll pretend it never happened, and the cycle will repeat with some new player.

drjisftw | Pacers

5 | 6 hours ago

I mean, if you draft a guy #1 you expect him to be the face of your franchise. The Magic probably wanted Aaron Gordon to be that in the same way (he was a former top 5-pick), but it took quite a few years to reveal that he is best as a super-role player.

ShaiFanClub | Thunder

2 | 6 hours ago

Magic should unironically consider trading him for Giannis

fab_frog_disco

4 | 6 hours ago

They’ve been my dark horse if Giannis hits the open market. And while Paolo is flawed, not sure Milwaukee’s going to get a better young player back than him

JoeBiden2020FTW | Lakers

0 | 6 hours ago

They kind of blew their load of picks on Bane.

Also it’s pretty hard to trade Paolo because of his extension and BYC rules.

I’m afraid the time to sell high on Paolo was last offseason.

dexterrrr_ | Magic

1 | 3 hours ago

Paolo is poison pilled. Couldn’t happen til summer.

thisisjustascreename | Bulls

1 | an hour ago

No shit lol if Giannis wants to come to Orlando the whole roster is on the table

JoeBiden2020FTW | Lakers

-2 | 6 hours ago

Giannis + Franz + Suggs would be so fucking lit

NoonDread | Magic

-3 | 6 hours ago

It does sometimes feel that way.

mMounirM | Raptors

16 | 6 hours ago

the East is so competitive (amongst themselves) I don’t even know who I want to win each matchup

P5Manchero

8 | 6 hours ago

I can’t wait for Paolo to shut you dumbass haters up for real.

Lmt_P | Raptors

3 | 37 minutes ago

I feel like he needs to be a more efficient shooter to silence any critics

P5Manchero

1 | 23 minutes ago

To silence basketball reference watchers. And he’s already been doing it this season despite his slumping 3 ball cause he’s been feasting in the paint.

LameAfro | Timberwolves

-5 | 5 hours ago

You know. If the Magic wont want him the Wolves can take him off their chests.

Him and Ant on the same team is gonna be amazing.

In exchange I have a left over bag of Takos and a firm handshake.🫴🏿

Belieber_420 | Raptors

4 | 6 hours ago

Franz’s sidekick returns

nbaistheworst

1 | 4 hours ago

7-3 without him, 6-6 with him. Take the Heat and the points!

No_Caramel_1782 | Wizards

1 | 3 hours ago

The Paolo hate is so dumb. It’s like looking at the Spurs record without Wemby this year or LA’s record without Luka and saying they don’t need them. More talent on the court is always good. It’s up to the coach to use them properly.

IgnorantGenius | Clippers

2 | 2 hours ago

I don’t hate him, but the numbers speak for themselves. Volume scorer on 45% shooting and only 31% from 3 career-wise, while shooting his career worst 25% this year. He’s clearly a backup player until those numbers rise.

Arixxtra

1 | 26 minutes ago

said no person with any sense

thisisjustascreename | Bulls

1 | an hour ago

I can think of a few differences between Wemby/Luka and Paolo…

Jarxzz | United States

0 | 39 minutes ago

It’s more than just record without him

It’s multi season long data that isn’t painting a pretty picture. Not really comparable to Luka or Wemby

VermontPizza | Celtics

0 | 3 hours ago

Ope, back to being the street magic..

PlatosLeftTit | Heat

-3 | 5 hours ago

I appreciate the free win ❤

homerdonutduffdonut

-4 | 6 hours ago

It would be good for the team if the coach uses him like Denver uses Gordon

MalcolmSupleX | Magic

4 | 5 hours ago

Stop it. 😂

ShaiFanClub | Thunder

-6 | 6 hours ago

Im sorry Magic fans

[Scotto] Orlando Magic say Paolo Banchero will make his return tonight at home versus the Miami Heat after missing the last 10 games with a left groin strain. He’s averaged 21.7 points, 8.7 rebounds, and 4.1 assists in 12 games played this season. The Magic had a 7-3 record without him.