No theyre will be picked the same. I hope Murray’s an All-Star because I’m Canadian, but between SGA, Luka, Jokic, Wemby, Giannis, Sengun, Franz, Markkanen, KAT, even Siakam, there is no shortage of International All-Star caliber guys this season. Murray is better than some of the guys I listed, but if he makes it, its not because of the format, but because he deserves it.

The Blazers are Ass as well. Yet you have Avdija up there. They have 2 more wins than the Clips, you act like they setting the NBA on fire or something. 

Jamal has never been close to an all-nba nod or an all star. He has never had a season where he was snubbed or close to either.

He is averaging 21/5/5 on 51 TS% (42/33/89) in the playoffs over the last two seasons. Again, on what planet is that a “straight up top 5 playoff player.”

You’re just saying buzzwords and claims you see online without knowing what you are talking about whatsoever.

See this is where you guys have flawed logic. He’s never averaged over 23 ppg in the regular season and in his 20-22 ppg he’s been hugely inconsistent which directly impacts nuggets seeding. If he averaged 25 ppg for the last 5 years nuggets are not falling below a 2nd seed

Half the debate in 2 of Jokic’s MVPs by all the haters is he’s seeded too low, then when we say he hasn’t had an all star, you idiots bring up his playoffs when the reality is Murrays missed 2 playoffs completely and had 3 playoffs averaging 21 ppg (bad defender on 21 ppg isn’t an all star). In only 2 playoffs series has he been at all star level, which is 26 ppg for those 2 playoffs.

So when he plays like an all star in 2 playoffs nuggets have won a chip one year and gone to the WCF the other. Turns out having an all star level teammates results in better success???

You know whats the difference between all star and just a good player? Consistency.

Jamal can absolutely go off like a star, but he can also disappear for stretches. Hes still really fucking good, but there hasn’t even been a single season where he had a snub from being an all star.

why wouldnt it be an argument? just curious, which yr do u think jamal murray was better than an actual all star?

Many seasons is an exaggeration. He’s had two pretty good postseason runs.

In those runs he was absolutely dominant though.

No he has had stretches of all star/ all NBA play but lacks the consistency to actually earn the nods. He will potentially get a nod this year but there are real reasons that he hasn’t gotten them before, that aren’t him being snubbed.

Prior to this season - since coming back from injury he’s been 21/4/6 in the regular season, which just isn’t all-star level

2023 was an amazing playoff run - but people act like he was Conference Finals Murray for the whole run. He was 26/6/7 on 47/40/93 splits. Which is great, of course, but not how people talk about it.

And since then he’s been

21/5/5 on 42/34/89 - which is quite mid for a 2nd star

So he was in a tier under all-star but never an actual all-star.

It’s a difference between top 1-24 players to top 25-48 players.