Paul Pierce compares SGA to Michael Jordan: “You can’t stop him. He’s starting to give me that Jordan presence. He gonna get 30. We had Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, Kevin Durant, and they’ll have big nights. But SGA is consistent 30s”
Haven’t all those guys averaged 30 at some point?
in lower scoring eras too
Thats what people don’t get lol, gotta adjust for era inflation
Imagine prime MJ, Kobe or LeBron playing right now, in a league where guys like Reaves are going off without being athletically dominant
Prime LeBron particularly would be unstoppable, especially with this jump in free throws this season
He’d average a triple double
I think Shais really shown how disgusting a prime MJ would be in today’s game. Imagine a stronger Shai with the most blistering first step in NBA history, a legit 40+ inch vert and hands the size of frying pans.
Yup exactly, basically SGA with a lot more athleticism, a better post game, better footwork, bigger hands (lot more options finishing at the rim), better defense, etc
Sheesh
Great takes. SGAs consistency/ridiculously high floor is what I hope gets him into the conversation with those guys, but man would they do well playing in today’s NBA.
i know everything ur saying is right but u might as well say ‘more attractive’ at that point, what DOES shai have over jordan lol
I mean… nothing that’s why he’s the GOAT 🐐
Shai is cuter and dresses better, also a better teammate since Jordan is toxic
SGA has elite footwork, arguably the best of any player today not named Kyrie, but it really is a step or two down from the likes of MJ or Kobe.
They were jump shooters in the era of hand checking and landing zone common fouls.
And that’s not a bash on SGA at all.
They would easily torch today’s defenses like they were playing g-league teams or the Pelicans for 82 games.
In today’s NBA presented by Adam Silver and FanDuel, Prime MJ would get a whistle so big that two refs would have to carry it. Probably would average 20 free throws in his sleep just taking it to the hoop every drive knowing no one is going to punch him in his face
MJ played in a fast-paced era too btw, which is something that I think most people don’t understand. Not that he wouldn’t put up big numbers now, but lots of fans think the game has only ever gotten more offense-focused, which isn’t really true.
Regardless of who is better I wish I could see LeBron in the man to man era where zone was illegal
You’re telling me if a guy wants to double Lebron he has to commit to leaving his man wide open and can’t hedge?
The numbers he would put up lmao
Yeah LeBron would be insane
He can kill you with the pass or the drive
I’d advise actually watching some of those games. The spacing was so fucking horrendous that once you beat your man there’s another defender right there. LeBron would cook back then the same way MJ would be putting up disgusting numbers in today’s game.
Perimeter defence was basically non existent in the 1990s. Listen to Kareem talk about shooters in his era vs today. Yes numbers are similar, but it doesn’t account for how much closer defenders play on the permiter now.
If Steph or even Lebron faced 90s perimeter defence they’d have 10 threes every other game.
Yup and if MJ played today hes feasting on that wide open paint every possession. The all-time best of the best could play in any era
All Lebron needs in that situation is Rex Chapman and he’s back to running his drive and kick and the defense has no answer
The spacing was so fucking horrendous that once you beat your man there’s another defender right there.
You are overstating it a bit. Scoring in that era was dominated by perimeter players who relied heavily on the dribble drive and short jumpers, with players like Wilkins, Dantley, King, Gervin and Free all putting up
30ppg seasons. Clearly the lack of space you are seeing didn’t offset the other factors that made scoring easier at the time.
Ya ppl for some reason don’t know the 80s was fast paced. 90s and 2000s is where it went slow. Mj averaged 37 and pace adjusted for like 2006, Kobe 35ppg is better. Also imagine if sga was being taken out of the air or clothes lined if he drove like I seen with Kobe and Jordan. lol prime LeBron would be crazy today too. Those guys are all 2 way greats not just putting up offensive numbers like guys in this nba
He also played in one of the slowest paced eras and still averaged 30
Yeah because he was ball hogging and calling iso’s. Same as what Kobe did.
Yea. Just imagine how much more successful the team would’ve been in the 90s if he passed more.
He averaged less points in the 90s when he was winning than in the 80s when he was averaging 35 so yes him passing more did lead to winning, granted he didnt have teammates to pass to in the 80s
And he averaged 37…
Right, and that season had a pace we still haven’t seen since (at least according to basketball-ref), at 100.8. The current pace is 100.1.
And sga is averaging 33 mins a game. A whole 7 minutes less during jordans highest scoring prime…
I’ve watched the 91 Bulls Finals game 1, nothing about that was fast paced.
MJ played across multiple eras. Like his post baseball run with the Bulls were the most defensive-minded seasons in NBA history. He was still scoring 30 points when the league was averaging 95 a game.
But yes while the pace was higher in the 80’s, it still wasn’t what we have today. MJ averaged 35 points on a league average 108. SGA just did 33 on a league average 114.
90s pace was fast. 2000s was slow
The second half of the 90s was lower pace than the 2000s. The entire 90s was slower than today
MJ would be killing absolutely everyone. It would be like nothing we’ve ever seen….
Just like he already did in a lower scoring era.
I think hockey is really good at making this clear: Gretzky was the best statistically by a huge margin, but he’d die in a collision with Crosby.
What does a jump in ft this mean when talking about real Lebron.
I just mean with his athleticism back then, he’d be wrecking up the most free throws now, his scoring would easily be above 30 on average
Prime LeBron particularly would be unstoppable
It’s not like this era just started yesterday. This is Lebron’s 15th season where league scoring average was 100+. 8th season of 110+.
We’ve seen prime Lebron in the modern era, he’s just always had a more well rounded game rather than be a pure scorer. His best scoring seasons were early Cavs teams, which came more of need with garbage teammates.
During mjs career, he played with some of the highest pace and lowest pace at the time, all averaging roughly similar stats (especially scoring).
Playing with a slightly higher pace (this year is 116 compared to 37 ppg year at 110) wont magically mean hes averaging a triple double. Thinkinf reaves is a bum is a crazy take because hes actually a 4 level scorer, which isnt something the average player could do 20-30 years ago.
Jordan would average roughly what he did, which would be around 30-33.
Those dudes don’t flop enough to take full advantage
MJ with the gather step rules is low key a crazy “what if”
MJ would be DeRozan and getting nowhere because he didn’t shoot a lot of 3s
Building around him would be a nightmare in today’s nba. Teams try to build around that and it ever works
You think Mj couldn’t adopt to shoot threes lol?
He has big hands like Kawhi and Kawhi wasn’t even known as a midrange shooter but developed a shot
If Kawhi can, the goat can
paul Pierce seen this all in person too
Since the start of the 2022-23 season, Shai has averaged 32.8⁄5.3⁄6.3 per 75 possessions, on 636 TS%. Even taking pace and number of possessions into account, he’s been a legit 30ppg+ scorer for years now.
Jordan had 5 full seasons in his career where he averaged 30/5/5 per 75 possessions. LeBron has had 2. KD has had 1. Kobe never had one.
Fucking LeBron did it again like 3 years ago. Usually it’s peak or very beginning of their careers.
LeBron is gonna be looked at how we currently view wilt in a couple decades. Something that just doesn’t sound real or believable
Something something except for LeBron James, of course
Kareem 2.0. It’s completely nuts how unbelievable his career will look in totality when he’s done.
Sadly people just don’t know how to evaluate even box score numbers.
LeBron scoring is lower than legends like Kobe/MJ because LeBron is a playmaker.
Assist numbers aren’t very useful either because cp3 Stockton have very high assist numbers whereas the highest leverage plays are by people like Lebron/Steph who average much fewer assists.
Yea box score wise he’s not going to be remembered like that like wilt is. But I think his longevity is what’s going to be wild. Being all nba in his year 40 season, the 8 years of final appearances. The 2016 cavs vs warriors games. The 23 straight all nba teams. The insane point total which is comical to even think to match. Etc
LeBron has cemented himself alongside MJ for me: utter mastery of the game.
I think he’s referring to the idea that Shai gets at least 30 more often. As far as I can tell, Shai had 50 games with at least 30 points last year. This is what those other guys had in their highest-scoring seasons:
Kobe (05-06): 56 games LeBron (05-06): 49 games Durant: (13-14): 46 games
Turns out you need a lot of games scoring at least 30 to end up averaging over 30. Who knew?
PS - Another difference is in minutes-per-game and shot attempts:
Shai (last year): 34.2 minutes, 21.8 attempts Kobe (05-06): 41.0 minutes, 27.2 attempts LeBron (05-06): 42.5 minutes, 23.1 attempts Durant: (13-14): 38.5 minutes, 20.8 attempts
I did not realize until looking at this that 20.8 is the most FGA KD has averaged. What a lethally efficient scorer. My god.
KD is like that, always has been.
Yeah, but they are just talking about the consistency. Probably in the context of SGA getting the second longest 20 point streak.
In Kobe’s 35ppg season, he had 3 games under 20 points. One was a blowout where he rested, but the other two were losses on off nights 17 vs Philly (7⁄27) and 18 vs Memphis (7⁄18).
In the 2006-07 season where he also averaged +30ppg, he had 11 games under 20.
Over the last 4 seasons (including this one) SGA has played 240 games and only had 10 under 20.
You also have to consider the era for inflation.
When Kobe was playing, the scoring in general was lower than today.
In terms of consistency, you really don’t though. In those 157 games for Kobe for 2005-06 & 2006-07, he averaged 33.5ppg and had those 14 games under 20.
This season and last SGA has played 97 and averaged 32.6ppg and had only 1 under 20.
Kobe actually scored more, but SGA is more consistent.
There definitely has to be some consideration of era for things like effeciency. Kobe’s TS % of 55.9% and 58% would be considered a little below or at league average for today, but league average was 53.6%-54.1%, so he’s actually +2.9 and +3.9 percentage points above league average, which is really good. But also worth noting that SGA is at 67.4% this season with a league average of 58.2%. SGA wouldn’t be at 67% or his normal 63% TS 20 years ago, but he’d be well above league average.
And just on scoring, yes average ppg is up, but Kobe was taking 25fgas during those two seasons and SGA is averaging 21.3fgas over the last two seasons. Even though teams are averaging ~10 more FGAs now compared to 20 years ago, SGA is averaging 3.7 less compared to Kobe in his peak scoring years.
So you look at scoring per 100 possessions instead… and guess what? SGA cleared Kobe’s best scoring season last year.
Just stop it. People will not give SGA his flowers until after he’s done.
This is the 4th straight season of him doing this. And he’s doing it while the team is highly successful. Only MJ was doing this.
giannis is in his 4th consecutive as well
They rarely talk about true bigs in these conversations.
Besides MJ, only SGA’s done it this consistently. This season will be his 4th in a row
Paul is demonstrating his deep understanding of variance and standard deviations here.
Kobe averaged 40+ for a month. PP needs his diaper changed, he’s clearly full of shit.
Jordan had TWELVE 40+ points per 100 possessions playoff runs. One of the craziest records ever. If SGA gets more than 3 ill be impressed. Currently hes at 0.
Way teams are built I doubt it’ll happen, Jordan was taking 26-28+ fga in a more heliocentric team construction. Shai taking like 80% unassisted shots and still only putting up around 21-22 fga in the playoffs.
Lebron is in second place with only 3 playoff runs. I think you can just say its not gona happen because Jordan was INSANE lol its just not gona happen because Jordan as a scorer was just on another level. Especially when it mattered most aka the playoffs. I means hes a top 2 player ever for a reason(obviously him and Lebron. Whatever order you put it). Shai is phenomenal in the regular season but hes obviously hasn’t touched Jordan or Lebron in the playoffs.
Wasn’t heliocentric is the exact opposite of triangle offense? Which made Jordan’s scoring feat even more impressive.
It depends a bit on how you define heliocentric. Jordan’s usage rate in most of his playoff runs was higher than Shai’s.
I thought heliocentric is more on playstyle rather than usage. Like LeBron is the ultimate definition of heliocentric player because his teams doesn’t really have different offensive scheme other than to have the ball and try to make a play (he can’t really play offball until now), while Curry is the extreme opposite of Heliocentric because of his playstyle (off ball) and his team’s offensive scheme. Jordan is closer to Curry than LeBron I would think (looking to score rather than make the right play, whether to score or set teammates up).
It’s a difficult term to define. There are ones that are easy to say yes (Iverson, some Harden Rockets seasons where it was everyone else get stand at the 3 pt line and wait). But it gets murky fast.
Take Curry as your non-heliocentric example, he plays off-ball but at times the Warriors have been very Curry-centric because their only viable scoring option was trying to get him open. He wasn’t holding the ball but the offense was very much revolving around him (not so much when Klay, KD were around obviously).
You can also have the opposite, a Chris Paul style where he’d take screen after screen until he saw an opening to exploit and set someone up. He wouldn’t take a lot of shots (relatively speaking, but he was dominating the offence.
So it’s what you mean. If we’re talking about Jordan’s scoring feats, even while in the triangle a large proportion of Bulls possessions ended up back with him in one way or the other (at least a similar proportion to Shai, since that’s the comparison being made). How heliocentric that is and if scoring in that scheme is more impressive than another scheme is really subjective.
Usage is an easy comparison since it says, how often do possessions finish with you (since if you had a more distributed offence then possessions would get spread around more). By that measure Jordan in the triangle finished as high a proportion of possessons as Lebron (pre-triangle Jordan’s way higher since they were really iso-heavy. Jordan’s 37pts a game came with him taking 28 shots a game, with Oakley second at 13 shots a game).
(As a side note Lebron has been more or less heliocentric depending on situation. In Miami he was off-the ball quite a lot, relatively speaking. At least while Wade’s knees held up. This new version with Doncic looks like a return to that.).
(I appreciate this is a lot of words to say it depends, but it is an ill-defined term and I think it’s been thrown around a lot as a buzzword without a lot of foundation, and some of the suggestions of teams being more heliocentric now aren’t based on much)
SGA’s last 2 playoff runs were 38.5 and 39.2, so it’s not like he’s far off (and over the last 4 regular seasons, it’s been 42, 42.4, 45.9, and 46.7).
Edit: I’m not going to argue that SGA is better than Jordan (who’s the goat). But the biggest thing holding back SGA (scoring-wise) is that OKC is just so much better than every other team atm.
He’s not far off but lot of players have between 35-40. But 40+ is where GOATS live. And Jordan has 12. Which is absolutely out of this world insaneeeeee. Then the second GOAT has the second highest..
Shai is a top 2 player right now. A great player for sure.
Well they weren’t so much better than every other team in either of his last 2 playoff runs and he still didn’t get it, so yeah it’s highly unlikely he gets it.
I don’t think he’s saying sga is as good as Jordan (that’s silly tbh). More he’s just got this crazy consistency like him. Which I can see. Shai is very consistent in general. He’s got a very high floor as a player imo
It’ll never happen with shai without major injuries. Shai is going to get his every night because he’s so unguardable, but he has like 11 different guys around him that can all get a bucket. His demand to score is far smaller than someone like MJ’s was.
yes, because Scottie Pippen - hall of famer, top 10 (if not top 5) MVP candidate, perennial 1st team all nba, and dpoy contender - is no help for jordan. jordan was great, but let’s not discount how good the rest of the bulls roster is lol. we’re talking multiple hall of famers
Saying someone’s demand to score is higher in no way whatsoever is the same thing as saying they are the only good player on their team. Being a great player is about more than just scoring points. If it wasn’t, Scottie wouldn’t be a hall of famer.
The post means OKC has a higher quantity of scoring options around shai on their roster than Jordan did.
SGA is only unguardable because you can’t even breathe on him without him flailing or falling to the ground, then getting rewarded with free throws 😂
So Luka has fewer minutes played and more free throws taken. Does that mean Doncic is worse than SGA? If not, why?🤔
Both can be true, but the post isn’t about Luka.
And Luka doesn’t get the hate either. I think they are both the greatest in the league right now. Both of them are playing by the rules better than anyone in the game. But does SGA deserve the snarky remarks because some NBA fans feelings are hurt?
Now do Luka..
Okay? But this thread isn’t about Luka (who obv is also a free throw merchant). Really seems I triggered some SGA fans 😂
Your argument is basically that nobody in the history of the NBA is unguardable without Free throws. Considering shai is at the bottom in FTA among 30+ ppg scorers in nba history. It’s baseless.
And?
30 points today is like 25 of 10 years ago. Everyone is scoring way more.
Jordan’s 37 per game (best non-Wilt scoring season) is 100% falling in the next few years if the game continues the way its been.
And that was with 2’s.
Did harden not beat it? Thought he had a 37 season
Close but 36
Oof so close. I know he got called hitler but what a crazy season from him. It was fun watching him turn back the clock with the clips this season. Was some real 1v9 basketball those couple of games
Your acting as if he’s done carrying
Hahaha true (is it bad that I want kawhi to sit out again so we see more harden 1v9 games? They’re kinda more fun to watch than the clips just shitting the bed in general)
He had 36
no one but Wilt had a streak of that much games with 20+ pts even in a high paced eras
Sure, but players are also playing less minutes per game than ever. Per 100 possessions SGA is averaging more PPG than any of MJ’s seasons other than ‘87 and any one of Kobe/Lebron’s seasons.
Yeah im not asking for the league to allow murder but defense is the only way to keep the game competitive. I know they want more highlights but uncontested dunks and layups are not it
how come nobody else is scoring 20 every single night?
I’m not saying Shai isn’t the MVP or anything. Just that scoring is inflated.
I hate it when someone makes a point I agree with and then uses the most dogshit argument to try to back it up
don’t worry, if you adjust the points to per 100 possessions, jordan is still a god amongst mortals. sga is super nice, but he isnt jordan… yet.
Stylistically Shai is a lot like second 3 peat Jordan and 08-10 Kobe
As big a demon at the craps table, as he is at the Denver away trips
In terms of effectiveness for sure. Stylistically I don’t see it THAT much honestly. Shai to me is just more of an early years Jordan with less of a vertical game.
Insane first step, breaking guys down with quick in and out dribble moves, and lethal pull up shots.
Yeah i really see pure number 8 Frobe in SGA at his current style of play
minus the bullshit dunking however he wants to lol, kobe was a madman every time he made a baseline drive lol
Yeah true Frobe was as athletic as Westbrook and twice as agile lol
I agree, honestly maybe even like 2003 ish kobe
PP will find any way he can to drag Kobe & Bron…
I can’t tell if it’s because he’s just next-level petty or if he’s delusional enough to think that by doing so it’ll somehow improve how he’s regarded relative to those guys
The issue is Pauls absolute peak was during the era when everyone was questioning if LeBron or Kobe was better, only for Kobe to go to the finals 3 times in a row and crush pauls dreams of going b2b, and then we basically forgot about Paul as a superstar till he retired lol
Paul was never a superstar.
At most he was slightly above all-star level.
He never came near MVP or even first team All-NBA
this is eventually going to be a common place opinion but people will call Pierce dumb over this
Only thing to take issue with is the inclusion of KD who’s probably the most consistent volume scorer ever. Very few sub-20 or 50+ games, just a reliable 25-35 spread evenly throughout the game no matter the opponent or setting.
KD has to fight an uphill battle in these conversations because of his choice to go to golden state. When he retires I think a lot of the respect for him comes back
The take in a broad sense is true (at least imo) but the argument backing it up is so terrible that it makes me doubt myself
well hes still a dumb guy
lol if it quacks like a duck
Does it shit like a duck?
ngl, I’m not a huge fan of shai, the way he plays, or hell even how okc plays, lol
but his consistency is ridiculous. even KD, who imho is the premier all around apex scorer we’ve had since MJ, wasn’t that clean of a 30 piece every night
The offensive environment is very high rn, no? At least highest since the start of KDs career?
Absolutely, we do need to account for pace and efficiency. But another way to look at it — none of the other top tier guys like Luka Giannis or Jokic have done this consistently over the last few years either (or LeBron and curry if you’re looking a little further back)
They weren’t doing this in the 80’s either except for MJ, doesn’t mean its only because of the pace, its because of the player
Higher pace makes it easier to get a higher point total, no?
This is the highest scoring environment since the 60’s so far this year.
It’s not about point totals with shai, it’s efficiency. He’s right around 30-32 ppg every year lately. Thats very good but not some historic anomaly. What sets shai apart is how otherworldly efficient he is. He’s only 40th in touches in the NBA this year, not like he’s constantly trying to score every single play. He shoots when he’s supposed to shoot, he uses the defenders body against them when he can’t get a clean shot, and he dishes out for an open 3 when he can’t get a foul. And he doesn’t turn the ball over. He makes the most out of every single possession he ever has. He’s also still on pace to break wilt’s consecutive 20 point games record. And he’s barely playing any 4th quarters.. and when he does, he’s unbelievably clutch. He’s hit multiple massively huge late shots in every single 4th quarter he’s played this year. it’s hard to see him missing it. Even last night it looked possible, he had 16 with a couple of minutes left. Next thing you know he’s gone superhuman and he’s up to 26 in the blink of an eye.
If he really wanted to he could score 40+ every night but there’s way too many good players on his team for him to do that.
Is it? Adjusted, the pace in today’s league is more similar to the 90’s, with both the 70’s and 80’s having a higher pace, which is why the bonkers numbers from those decades have yet to be replicated
Maybe im looking at it wrong but by ppg its 4th highest all time
He’s talking about pace, which is about possessions.
This season is at 100.1. that was topped in 2019-2020, 1988-1989 and every year from 73 to 87.
It was also higher in the vast majority of the years before that after the introduction of the shot clock, but easy stats aren’t available.
NBA pace was below 95 from 1994 until 2015.
Yup. People like to imagine bill russel era playing like the 80s, but it was just dump the ball shoot, and repeat. one of the only teams actually running structured ball that would somewhat resemble today was the celtics, which is why they won so much. Wilts teams just threw to him and expected that to be enough.
Ok but scoring environment is more than just pace right. For instance the new high five rule will likely increase scoring & not have much of an impact in pace
The sample size is way too limited to say that it already is affecting the numbers of the top scorers. The top scorers were also averaging their numbers before this rule, as this would be SGA’s 4th year in a row averaging at least 30.
Jordan had his highest totals by far prior to his championships.
English, Nique, Malone were all close.
Yes i know that’s what I was saying, he had those numbers in the 80’s. And also the closest to his averages in that time were Malone once (like u mentioned) but also George Gervin. Even then he has 2 of the 3 highest and 3 out of the 5 highest.
So yes his numbers were insanely high due to pace, but he was one of the only 3 dudes putting that up so you cant blame the pace then and you cant do it now, especially considering pace is lowering at the moment.
30 is not the new 20, 25 might be but not 30. Look over the past 5 years and look at who consistently averages 30 by the end of the season. It’s all people who are far and away the best in the league
For what it’s worth, during his MVP season Durant scored 30+ nearly every night. To me that was prime Durant and the best scorer I’ve ever seen. Simply incredible.
I see your point though.
I asked gpt to help, obviously this is not that important but I was curious
Games scoring 30-39 points:
KD had more <30 pt games, and more 40+ pt games
so, idk it doesn’t really matter at all, and I’d be happy to argue the higher highs for KD made him a better and more dangerous scorer overall
but SGA damn near half his games between 30-39 is crazy
now adjust for era lol
also penalizing kd for playing more games
Some dudes just like to talk
And this one gets paid to
Imagine Jordan with SGA’s whistle and current NBA hand-check rules. Jordan would average 40+.
Jordan Rules would maybe amount to 15-20 FTs let game in today’s game unless you’re a center not named Embiid
Unpopular opinion: Shai belongs in that group
Popular opinion: Fuck Paul pierce
Yall just be saying the dumbest shit on here sometimes. I’m taking a break from this app, the stupidity is astounding.
Clearly prefaced with unpopular and popular and opinion. The prerequisite to not being dumb and stupid is reading.
I’m glad you understood what you wrote. If explaining it helps you understand, good for you, little buddy.
I definitely wouldn’t include KD in that, I used to love playing the when will he hit 20 points in this game when he was on the Nets (spoiler alert, it was always with 7 minutes left in the third)
Whoever named him “truth” needs to apologize 4r at this point
Shaq will never apologize.
NFW 💀
Yup, Shaq coined it in the mid 2000’s.
Ugh we went from Anthony Edwards is the next Jordan talk and now this shit.
Fucking annoying.
Please don’t ever compare SGA to Jordan… blasphemy
Shai has the highest EPM ever, beating Jordan btw.
Hhahahahahahaha
No refutation? Ok.
Estimated plus minus? Go back to your fanboy sub with that bs
Shai is the most consistent scorer in the NBA since Jordan. It really doesn’t matter what kind of coverage you use, he’s gonna get his. It’s very inevitable.
In the 24-25 season, Shai had 8⁄76 games under 25 points. In the 23-24 Season. This season so far he has 2⁄21 games under 25.
But to the point about consistency, he’s not going for 40+ that often (though he has exploded for a few including some 50 balls).
i hate sports media
Yes, scores are very inflated these days compared to early 2000s.
He’s a consistent 30. Not 18 one night and 45 another night.
Luka? 🤷🏽♂️
The man who played against Kobe, Bron, and KD is showing more love to somebody he didn’t play against.
Oh boy. Reddits gonna have their panties in a bunch.
Lebron has averaged 27 for over 2 decades lmao what the fuck are you talking about
You already know OKC and SGA are about to fall off a cliff as soon as these guys start making statements like these lmfao
Pierce is obviously a great and a HoFer but dude seems to go out of his way to have the worst takes possible.
Lmfao
Lots of guys have had runs where they were unstoppable in the sense that they score 30 or put up a triple double with incredible consistency. Harden, Jokic, Westbrook. That doesn’t mean they were essentially tied for the greatest season ever.
You guys still listen to this clown?
Big Wos? I don’t know man he was on the Ringer for awhile and I just got used to his voice spewing bad takes
So is Giannis. And Luka and nobody has ever given them that kind of credit or comparison lol
Weird discrepancy
Luka gets called a generational talent literally all of the time. Also SGA is a better and more consistent scorer than Luka.
KD is one of the most consistent lower ceiling bucket getters ever tf is he even talking about? LEBRON is probably the most consistent ever of getting era adjusted 30 a night and Kobe is Kobe in a slow era getting 30+ a night
Paul Pierce brain not working
I thought I was stupid saying SGA remind me of Jordan. Hearing it from HOF makes me feel better
Bro
Pierce still shitting himself all these years later, just now from the other end of the digestive system. Truly goat level longevity.
Jordan would have scored 150 per if he got the calls SGA gets
This is a ridiculous conversation to have considering SGA has the most insane referee protection I’ve literally ever seen. It’s not that he’s not good, but holy fuck man if other PGs had the same whistle SGA had we’d see similar numbers.
The
People just saying anything now
In MJs era, push offs were controversial. A push off is literally part of SGAs rhythm.
That ONE push off was controversial😂
Pierce has a problem with holding his liquor
I’m a big Pierce fan as well
Old players and horrid takes, name a better duo
What a drunk degenerate bum. You can tellxhe doesnt watch the games.
An NBA finals MVP doesn’t watch basketball? Ok lol.
Bet he doesnt. You probably think Shaq watches too
Idk something tells me Paul Pierce knows a little more about basketball than you do.
great observation. I bet that would help him if he chose to watch the games
SGA isn’t nearly as popular as those guys though
When Curry was breaking through, he became the face of the league. SGA doesn’t even sell more jerseys than Morant!
Would SGA be this good in Washington? Or is he a system guy?
The other names mentioned immediately turn shit teams into contender. Maybe not Durant. I’m not sure Shai does this.
Um.. SGA gets 26 FTs some nights. I don’t know. Easy to get to 30 that way
Luka averages 12 FTAs a game whilst barely driving compared to Shai.