[OKC Thunder Youtube] Reporter: “Are the cup games more competitive?” Shai: “A little bit, you can win money. They should do that for every game.”
I always felt like NBA players didn’t make enough money
New idea. Only the winning team gets their paycheck at the end of each game, coaches included.
Everyone gets 90% of their game checks guaranteed but 10% is risked every game and goes to the winning team.
lmao this would he hysterical
we would get even less FAs than we already do 😭
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Gambling is for the poors and Terry Rozier
They getting paid off commission💀
In few years Alex Sarr would work as French language teacher on the side job
there’s that one guy on the kings with a compsci degree who can monitor the referee machines while he’s on the bench lol
This is actually a good idea for competition.
And somehow incorporate betting into it.
Wouldn’t this incentivise super teams?
Are they not already incentivized?
Super stars are gonna get sent to the hospital every game.
I think pay should be higher with higher win totals but not as extreme as what you say. This would also prevent tanking, which I think is the worst development in basketball. Fans should not be wanting their teams to tank. We should all want every game to be competitive.
Man I would love to see that tbh. The competition would be fucking crazy. Might even see kawhi make an on court appearence
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Alex Sarr would be applying for SNAP if that ever happens
There is a baseball manga where the team’s owner raises ticket prices but promises full refunds on any match where the team loses. The tickets also have a voting slip for the game’s MVP which directly affects their salary.
Have you ever worked in a corporation, people can get paid 6 figures but will bend themselves backwards for a small bonus.
The 12-15 slots dont. Theyre the ones on okc who were mad they didnt win. I remember someone saying that Flagler and dieng were really upset they didnt win the cup game last year.
It’s not about them making more money lol. It’s to improve competitiveness
So we should reduce everyone’s salary and put that money up for grabs each game. Problem solved.
Get a big novelty check for each team and at the end, the winner gets to burn the loser’s.
Jackie Moon approves
That is how the NBA Cup bonuses works and how any other bonus for wins would work though right? The owners aren’t just paying the win bonuses out of their share of revenue. Players and owners split basketball related revenue and it’s distributed based on the salaries and various bonuses. If there were no bonuses for the Cup, every player in the league would split that amount, therefore having a slightly higher salary
Improving competitiveness by… giving them more money?
Like, they already make ludicrous amounts of money. Do these guys not want to just play ball and prove their team can beat the other? Like they need more money on top of that too?
Jesus some of these guys just have the greediest mindset.
I think $500K is still good money for players on rookie, vet minimum and minimum contracts.
Let’s start “paid per win” contracts then 🤔🤔
crazy that a thunder player would want that
Wizards players are gonna go broke
Literal poverty franchise
It really doesn’t change anything esp at this level of wealth. It might mean more to end of the bench guys but they’re not the ones playing and impacting games and the guys making millions of dollars probably aren’t sweating over 5-10k.
UFC has a show pay and win pay and it means more to guys at the bottom of the food chain.
The players already get contracts proportional to how much they are perceived to help a team win.
Pay per Game would solve a Lot of Problems. Maybe have a Sort of Basic income for hurt Players, but 80% of it is tied to playing
Would not be legal.
Every player that got injured on the job would immediately sue the hell out of the team and league.
The DNP-CDs would also have a “retaliatory” claim added to their lawsuit.
Adam Silver takes off his mask to reveal he’s Dana White
You joke but NBA contracts should absolutely have performance objectives.
Base salary would be half what it is now and tiered based on team performance e.g. play in, first round, semis, conf finals, finals, championship.
Better players would be offered bigger incentives as part of contract negotiations e.g. Luka would get a maximum possible incentive, but a non all star player would get a lower one. Basically it adds financial motivation for players to want their team to succeed.
Of course, the NBPA would never agree to this so its a non starter. It would improve the quality of the product for fans however.
Yeah that’s what your contract is supposed to be bud
Kawhi in shambles
Kawhi owes about 8 million trees to be planted
He needs to do it by hand.
They are massive so it shouldn’t be that hard….
With the exact same facial expression
Not exactly, you still get paid when you lose
Or don’t play at all(injuries etc).
The guaranteed deals we see some leagues get versus others is astonishing
The nfl we see some players get cut so teams don’t have to have them on year 5 of 5 for the sample. I know the guaranteed angle has changed with the Watson signing a few years back.
The contract is guaranteed, bud. You don’t make it depending on winning or losing.
Even better for him
Bruh lol. Brain on 0
Missed the point and thought he cooked 🥲
Nah I’m talking about you lol. You missing the point that winner being rewarded every game is way different than you just getting guaranteed money no matter what
That’s the damn joke
If they gave me more money on some days I’d try harder at work too
Best we can do is a pizza party
After work hours too.
Whoops sorry, we are doing Kirkland bagels this year!
Wtf? They are already getting paid millions of dollars. That should be motivation enough.
I worked on Incentive Compensation for some sales companies and you’ll be surprised lol
Sales is a different beast altogether. I am guessing you weren’t getting paid over a million dollars a year as base compensation.
I was handling compensation for the sales teams. Base would be pay close to 100k and compensation would be around 15k. It worked like a charm.
Seems like a similar ratio to 7th-11th man on the roster
Longer conversation but I think the AAUification has killed the love for the game to a certain extent. You play a kids game and eventually find that you’re better than most people. You’re then told from then on if you work hard and just get to the dance you’ll be rich. A lot of players care about is getting drafted and then getting a second contract. Some people are overly competitive but the incentive structure is purely financial at this point
That’s not how human psychology works. The Cup system also means they’re playing for someone else to get paid—assistant coaches, rookies, etc—and that can be a very powerful motivator, too.
I understand that and I don’t have a problem with the cup format. Applying it to every game is not reasonable though. There are already performance bonuses included in many players contracts.
Yeah but if you are making guaranteed money, and only have to play well on your contract year for your next contract, you’d have little incentive to maximize your output on the earlier years in the contract. Think about how players play out of their mind in contract years. You’d possibly get that on a nightly basis
The incentive is to be a professional and win. That is literally what they are getting rich to do.
I don’t pay my accountant extra because they filed my taxes on time. Lol
Your accountant would probably do a better job with a performance bonus though.
I have no problem with bonuses for excellence (which already exist in the NBA). I have a problem with bonuses for literally just doing the job you are paid for.
For every game played is ridiculous for sure 😂 I think the cup is a nice compromise.
You could do as others suggest and have a small percentage of superstar salaries gated behind individual game wins, since this is mostly about the psychological trick of incentives rather than the actual money itself. Role players probably shouldn’t have their salary cut further given they earn less and usually have shorter careers.
The player union would never allow that to happen though.
Don’t bother trying to explain basic logic. People just wanna complain that nba players are rich and entitled
I’m sure the players union would love this
If it made up a large percentage of your total salary then you’d see even more super duper teams. Why risk let’s say 25% of your salary by going to a team that isn’t stacked?
For role players there are already performance targets in their contracts. They just don’t talk about it a lot in the media.
They don’t get paid to win though.
Well I doubt the idea behind the contracts is that they are getting paid to just show up. Lol
The reality is that many are.
Not intentionally though. Lol
I am fairly certain some players have intentionally just shown up for their paychecks.
I mean that the contract itself was not put in place with the expectation that you just show up. Obviously there are those that just show up for the paycheck. In my industry we call those bad hires. Lol
That’s SGAs point. If wins paid player effort would be higher.
Nah, if people can’t be bothered to do their job when they are literally being paid generational wealth level money…find someone who actually has a passion for what they do.
It’s the NBA. Height and athletic ability matter way more than passion.
It’s never enough for these guys
Chet and SGA look like NPCs in Cyberpunk 2077
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This really does perfectly describe Chet
You guys are right, clearly the Oklahoma City Thunder players are not focussed enough on winning normal games lol
If the players want the same revenue split with the owners but more of it going to players whose teams win, I’m sure the owners would be open to it. I’m sure it’s the players who would say no
I didn’t say only for the champion team. It could be half of players get more, to varying degrees, and half get less. Players would still say no
They did that in 2016 when they let the cap spike lol
anything’s possible
Teams already get bonuses the deeper their teams make it in the playoffs lol.
You are doing that for every game. You’re playing for a freaking NBA contract.
tbf if ur a high draft pick and smart, getting to the end of ur rookie contract could probably get you to the end of ur lfie
-Guy who makes nearly a million dollar per game.
LOL
Out of touch idiots
Do you even know what out of touch means? Saying you’re a little bit more motivated based on the chance of winning more money seems like a pretty normal statement, doesn’t it? Wouldn’t you say the same ?
It would actually be out of touch for him to say he doesn’t care because it’s such a small amount of money on the line.
If thats what he’s saying and not taking for granted he makes close to a million a game. Which, I think he is. This is some Ewing levels of absurdity.
Who says he’s taking it for granted?
Also the “per game” shit is stupid. The work obviously goes far beyond just the games played. It’s not like that’s all the job is.
I say, since I cant read his mind and he doesnt really elaborate. I believe, my subjective opinion is, his thinkin is something akin to, I get payed to play in the NBA, I want extra for special effort. Which, imo, hints at some unappreciation, i.e. the amount hes making has become an afterthought not that he should be on his knees thanking the gods for hus ability or something silly, for what he makes. Its crazy.
You don’t need to read his mind, just use critical thinking skills.
This guy is one of the most consistent players we have ever seen. He’s putting up the same 30+ points on great efficiency with minimal turnovers night after night after night. No matter the team he’s playing against. Does that seem like a guy that actually needs extra incentive to play? To put in effort? To try?
Imo you don’t understand dry humor or tongue in cheek comments and instead take everything far too literally and then read into them too much and go down a confusing path that leads you to an illogical conclusion. Take a breath.
They’re competing at a sport. Not supposed to be about the money.
Being a cop or a teacher shouldn’t be about the money. But I guarantee every cop and teacher in the world would try just a little bit harder for a couple of hours if it meant they could make money. It’s like that for quite literally everything and everyone on earth.
They save and protect lives for 60k a year, these guys play a sport for 60m. Can’t believe people are defending the idea that players need more money to try harder. They should be trying as hard as they can every night.
That… doesn’t matter. The point is that people will always try harder for more money. Nobody is saying that that’s how it should be. Obviously everyone knows they make too much to not be trying 100% all the time. But that’s not how human nature is. In the real world, people try harder when they know they’ll get more of something that they want.
That’s what contract negotiations are for
Sure, but does that doesn’t mean money wouldn’t give you a little extra incentive
You’d think making millions a year would be enough incentive
You’d think you would understand that winning money isn’t just about getting that money. There’s a reason why rich people still gamble.
Uh….lol.
New to pro sports?
The NBA generated $12 BILLION last season.
It’s not about money?? What the….
I didn’t say it’s not about the money, I said it’s not supposed to be. It’s supposed to be about competition.
The NBA is losing sight of that which is why it’s becoming the worst of the major sports leagues
Shai makes less than half a million per game. His salary is only $38M this season. Don’t you have some stupid shit posts to make?
Edit: holy shit, people are fucking morons these days huh
Damn I feel bad for him, dudes probably struggling this Holliday season.
Oh man that really changes things, I feel so bad for him :(
oh man.. only a bit less than half a million for a 3 hour basketball game.. what will his family do?
Lol @ only 38m for a year. Poor guy!
Only 38, compared to the 78 he’ll be making a year in half a decade, which is what the original comment was incorrectly referring to
It is still 38 MILLION dollars! I understand that he will make more than that, and good for him, but boo fucking hoo. Lol
Nothing I said ever implied that he wasn’t making a lot of money, but please, continue to be weird about it
Not being weird at all. I just dislike that people are advocating for athletes to make more money so that they care more about a game they have made generational wealth from already.
Which I never did, so why do you keep replying acting like I did, which is weird
I don’t care how much money NBA players make, but comments like these do piss me off ngl.
Like bruh a player making \(10mil a year is making over \)100k a game, majority of us in this sub ain’t making that money in a year.
Hell it takes a normal working class citizen roughly 2yrs of work to make that type of money, but nah players want even more even though they’re making an absurd amount already
Everybody likes making more money. It sounds tone deaf to people in developing countries when Americans complain about wanting to make more too. I don’t think that means that American workers should just be satisfied or pretend they shouldn’t make more.
I’m all for players making more. Ticket prices are skyrocketing and that’s bullshit, but players don’t set those. That’s the greedy billionaires.
“you get paid hundreds of thousands each game….”
Maybe not extra but if it were like the all-nba boosters for contract extensions then it’d make sense. Your contract has a range or something that gets added by win total with a minimum and a maximum.
Imagine if say Klay had a win clause in his contract and then the Luka trade happened. I think it’s one of those things where if you think about it for like more than 5 minutes you can see why it doesn’t already exist.
Honestly a perfect example of why a win clause is a bad idea.
If you need more motivation than the millions you get now to actually do what your contract provides idk what to say. Luckily they are athletes because a regular job not giving you bonuses to show up. Maybe contracts should be lowered so they try harder.
Umm….bonuses are given in regular jobs.
I got a bonus in high school at my fast food job.
This is why the NBA is falling off. Only pro sport where effort is a problem at the highest level.
Players that make more than any other sport by a fucking landslide yet they also complain more about having to do their job than any other sport…
“Millionaires want more money”
Sure but if players love sports gambling maybe just allow them to bet their game salary against opponents. Winner takes the opponents money.
Shai what are you wearing
Almost in his hijab era
Yeah that fit is not it
The men make millions a season………
Entitled fucks, jesus christ.
Good idea. You get half of your game check if you play and the other half if you win.
Just bet on you own team to win.
absolutely not. Maybe have more cup games, either by adding more games before the knockout round or creating another type of cup but these guys make enough money as it is.
Winner should get home court advantage in every single playoff bracket, would make the cup intense and worth competing for.
Yeah, NBA players don’t make millions of dollars already, 🤨
Don’t they get paid more if they make the playoffs and finals?
How about players can wager a certain amount of salary against the other team but ya know do it all legal like Buggy Siegel.
Guaranteed deals in sports is sort of crazy to think about
Some players truly do play up to the challenge for their one big contract
Not sure who’s conning who though
Shai dressed like a Muslim Auntie
I guess he’s not wrong
Imagine their contracts were the max amount they could win and only got what percentage of games they play and win. Like if SGA got a 100\( contract and played all games but only won 75% of them, then he gets 75\). If they win 75 games but he only played in 69 of them he gets 69$. Less incentive to tank and also load manage. CBA wouldn’t go for it but maybe it’d improve the product idk
This is the same dickhead who said if they want him to try at ASG then you gotta pay him. I don’t know why anyone likes this floppy fool except the uneducated obese masses of Oklahoma.
Must be a fanduel segment.
No gambling jokes on here. Disappointed
They just continue to prove the Shut and Dribble guy more and more.
He’s right, compared to what the nba makes as a whole. These players should be paid much more. The owners should pay a lot more.