Fwiw people do this with jokic BPM or win shares posts

I’ve been saying it since the trade he would get this

The .1 difference really jumps off the screen this year

I was just thinking exactly the same thing. But now I’m thinking, “wtf is epm”?

Ya same, actually I heard LeBron say this last year that he knew this was gonna happen.

Same

Everybody and their mother knows who the best player in the league is. Stop pretending, free yourselves!

Definitely a historic prime we are witnessing right now.

For sure. SGA and Jokic are just insane players who are having all-time great seasons. Steph in 2016 is one of the best guard seasons in the history of the game. It’s cool to be able to watch all these great players and appreciate what we’re watching.

Shooting 55% as any position other than a LeBron (lmao) PF or Center is nuts too

He just goes there, gets 30-5-5 while playing calm, collected and safe basketball. I admit I prefer watching players like Doncic or Jokic, but I don’t know what else can you ask from SGA.

His efficiency is greatly boosted by his FT gathering ability

Yeah a lot of people still want to just use regular Box Plus minus just because it favors Jokic even though the stat naturally favors bigs

Funny how advanced stat narratives have almost disappeared now and we’ve devolved into the PRA and triple double narratives.

We need to see more out of SGAic

If we call him Shai Gilgeous Alexander the Great maybe the Balkanites will love him?

Freethrow Merchantic

EPM is an estimate of how many points a player adds (or subtracts) per 100 possessions relative to other players.

It used a combination of box score statistics, play-by-play statistics, regression analysis (which accounts for things like opponent and teammate quality) and maybe some other things that im forgetting.

Essentially, Shai having an EPM of 10.9 means “Compared to the average player, Shai contributes 10.9 additional points per 100 possessions”.

You mean FTA? /s

No

It’s not the sub it’s just the Reddit demographic, talk to real people outside and you’ll see the shift

Same dude posted basically same post three days ago, nobody wants to see it again lol.

He’s boring and lives at the line. Watching him play I’ll fall asleep. That’s why.

The guy in the AT&T commercial?

Calling one of the worst 3pt shooting teams efficient is certainly a take…

Did you not watch last game where his team did nothing but wide open bricks?

OKC is literally one of the least efficient three point shooting teams in the league and EPM is one of the most respected advanced stats.

It takes into consideration teammate quality which is why someone like Jokic has been near the top of the league in seasons where he had a garbage team like 2022. I understand that Shai having an all-time great peak makes you uncomfortable but you dont need to go spreading misinformation.

Edit: Theres currently a +19 point swing in OKCs offensive rating when Shai is on the floor vs off the floor which is even higher than Jokic’s.

I wish our offense was efficient rn 😭😭 need Jdub back big time.  (And Wiggins to a slightly lesser extent)

“Wide open bricks by your teammates”

You mean the wide open bricks OKC shoots? You people need to actually watch more than singular games to judge a team and player, holy lol

Hmm wonder what the last 3 have in common 🤔

Six of them were technical fouls and intentional fouls once the wolves had to stop the clock. Which means he actually shot fewer than Ant. But ok

9.2 or something

Nuggets fan try not to insert Jokic into every conversation challenge. Look at me!

He would be no might about it

We brought back real defense, now we’re a disgusting, dirty, dishonest team who plays the game the wrong way

Still recording the highest ever is insane

SGA game is predicated on stuff that a lot of people don’t like. It’s not that hard to figure out.

Bc it’s not Jokic or Doncic doing the record breaking

No excuses, Shai is already an all time great.

The key is that there are 2 points to take away from this.

One for him, and one against in a “through this point in the season argument.”

Point for him (obviously): no JDub, 2nd best player (at worst 2A to Chet’s 2B).

Point against him: strength of schedule through the first 19 games vs. the remaining games. Would be curious to see how it compares sto Steph’s first 20 of that season.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/1p5k08i/a_look_at_the_strength_of_schedules_played_so_far/

OKC were ranked as having the easiest strength of schedule through 18 games and the hardest strength of schedule in the rest of the season that remains. The key here is how much you value JDub and what him being in the lineup could do to SGA’s EPM numbers.

those were valid concerns that are addressed here so nobody should have an issue with this since it’s peak v peak and he is higher.

Interestingly enough it feels like the people who’ve never picked up a ball are the ones who hate him the most

Yet all other pro, and former pro players and coaches have nothing but praise for him and his game. The only people hating on him are online losers.

Prob cause he never looks like he’s trying, that Portland rematch when he was amped and scored 28 first half on ¹⁰⁄₁₁ shooting That Shai was scary

More

Luka misses 12.3 shots and turns the ball over 4.2 times per game

SGA misses 9.0 shots and turns the ball over 1.7 times per game

That’s almost SIX fewer “wasted” possessions I’ll take 2 points and 3 assists fewer with that plus SGA definitely has more impact on the other end as well

Some people seem to think that the better player is just whoever has the higher points/rebounds/assist sum this reminds me so much of Harden vs. Curry discourse in the 2010s

Meet box score man!

Luka averages 37.2 minutes per game. SGA averages 33.3 mainly because he doesn’t play a lot of 4th quarters. Per 36 minutes Shai scores 35.3 PPG and Luka scores 34 PPG. EPM also factors in player tracking data for defensive impact beyond steals.

also more turnovers, free throws and worse efficiency

Dont take this as luka bashing but

Shai scores more per minute than luka, he only plays less cause his teams wins too hard. He plays 5 minutes less and scores less than 3 points less (shai scores roughly a point per minute by reference)

Shai is significatively more efficient

Shai turns the ball over half as many times as luka does

Assists sure, luka is the better passer no one says otherwise

Lol at guard rebounds only mattering again now when they were dismissed so much after westbrook mvp as stat padding

Yeah let’s just ignore per36 and efficiency. White Boy Harden got Lakers fans frothing at the mouth

And the most free throws in nba history.