They also do next to 0 marketing for any show. It basically has to be a word of mouth hit or they kill it

Happened to Mind Hunter. I’m still mad about that

How the hell did the Witcher get past Season 2 bro

In this case, its just not a very interesting show. And its not like this is a tv show that needs an ending to have a complete story. Once the interest is proven not to be there, its fine to stop for shows like this.

If its actually good and watched , they do keep making these kind of docuseries. Drive and Survive has 7 seasons for example.

And even when it does catch on, they usually negotiate a new deal where the show gets a subtitle so they can do the same thing all over again

Creators know this though. It’s still a massive payday and you get a guaranteed 2 seasons.

Mind hunter

They definitely would’ve cancelled The Office after 2 seasons

I’ve (maybe) relearned that lesson with Last Samurai Standing. It’s decent, but ends not just on a cliffhanger, but as an incomplete story. Feels like part one of a two parter (similar to Squid Games seasons 2).

Problem is that the next season hasn’t even been greenlit yet.

So it’s a bit of a disappointing ending, and there’s no guarantee that it’ll even be finished. Kinda wish I hadn’t watched it at all, and instead waited until it was officially over.

This is me with Kaos. It’s such a great show and after the last episode, I immediately looked to see when season 2 was coming out. Netflix would have to be out of their minds not to renew it, right? Nope. Cancelled.

Critical darling, great initial streaming numbers, vocal fan base… doesn’t matter. Too expensive, too complicated, demo too niche, etc, so it’s one and done. I truly believe the same show on HBO or even Hulu/FX would have been renewed for at least a second season, if not more.

Yah, I used it to pull up an article quickly that I remember reading a few years ago. It’s a little faster than trying to Google it again.

This is Netflix, you’re greenlit!

It’s been a thing for a long time. Disney Channel used to have it be after 3 seasons. So that’s why “Suite Life of Zach and Cody” turned into “Suite Life on Deck”, as they counted as different shows.

3BP was picked up for seasons 2 and 3 and is good to go through the end of the books

https://www.netflix.com/tudum/articles/3-body-problem-renewed

No. They are already dealing with the unions. Just necessarily. Costs skyrocket after a second season, as part of those union contracts that, again, they already have to deal with.

Pretty much the same for me. They burned this into me tho. I used to be fine picking up a series in the 90s and 2000s cuz u just knew it would run at least a while. Now I don’t pick one up unless I see it has at least 3-4 seasons cuz that means they already beat the suits to get there, and there’s at least 1-2 satisfying arcs.

Yeah mate don’t watch it yet, even as a non Pacers fan the last episode was fucking hard to watch. Do watch it eventually though, it’ll make you love Halliburton even more than you probably already do.

The entire run leading up to game 7 I kept thinking “man, Starting 5 is going to be absolutely insane, I can’t wait to watch that shit”

Weeks of hyping it up to myself and after G7 I too can’t bring myself to watch it

they began the season with game 7 lol. fucking brutal. also i swear they added sound effects for all the Achilles tears (not just Hali’s). really strange production decision.

that said, it was incredible how much post-injury processing in the locker room area they let play without any voice over or doing tons of cuts. felt super cathartic to cry with tyrese one last time lol

re-living the cavs and knicks series and then game 1 of the finals was incredible though.

overall, i didn’t find it that compelling, though, especially the off-court stuff, so I’m not surprised they canceled it. i found myself skipping a lot of the non-tyrese segments. the basketball stuff was great though. it did re-affirm to me that the most important part of basketball is the basketball.

I watched all but the last 30ish mins of it. Couldn’t. I love the kid too much.

This is how I am with receiver. I know it’s different with you guys dealing with the Hali injury, but I’m a die hard Niner fan and re watching them lose another superbowl to those fuck ass Chiefs again is too much for me

Not quite as bad but I will say, I watched the Receiver season that covered the 49ers Super Bowl loss (which could also be blamed on a torn Achilles ironically). And for a while like you I just couldn’t get myself to watch it, but I will say that it was very well done and so was this one. It also does help with the ‘fan healing process’ if you will, or at least it did for me

I’ve watched that shit 5 times. Ultimate classic.

dang maybe I should do that with the Suns 21’ run. My love for basketball just hasn’t been the same since.

I feel the same. It was definitely interesting but I’ve never cared for seeing players “real” lives because all you get is a carefully crafted, planned and rehearsed version of them. Like how in season one they pretended that AE was having a child for the first time and no one acknowledged he already had at least one kid prior. If you’re gonna do a doc then document all the info.

I agree with you completely. I watched the first couple episodes of each season, but it just wasn’t that interesting.

Yea. It seemed like the most generic day in the life type of sports content.

I only stuck out the first season cause it had sabonis and kings never get any spotlight. But it was indeed meh

I thought it was strange how they jumped months in the season as if November and March games were back to back. I would have enjoyed a bit more in-season drama.

Season 2 was a huge drop off in quality from season 1. It got to the point where I was skipping huge chunks about family and Tyrese stupid fucking girlfriend and then the last episode was basically half about him proposing to her. I’m actually not surprised it got cancelled after the direction season 2 started going in.

I only watched the first season tbf, but I couldn’t help but think they started the series to build some more hype around their younger stars as the old guard starts to retire. But then LeBron ended up having more interesting stuff anyway so didn’t work out as planned lol.

the first season is downright awful. the ant storyline all builds up to game 7 against the nuggets and then it just… kinda happens. just, like, yadda yadda’d. and then they just continue to yadda yadda the wcf series they lose to the mavericks. it’s, like, bizarre. as if a robot with zero emotions was asked to pick the moments to highlight and build toward, and just totally gets it wrong.

Yeah it is boring AF.

But I also think it is because the regular season is so neutered. No one watches or cares about it because twenty fucking teams make the post-season. The players are also not interesting enough to just follow around and ask them about their girlfriend, rehab, or favorite post-game meal.

People love Quarterback/Receiver, Hard Knocks, and Drive to Survive because it went into the depths of the sport with footage inside the team headquarters, paddocks, factories and locker rooms. Starting Five just followed NBA players around awkwardly while they attempted to act like they were totally pumped for their next Tuesday afternoon game against Charlotte.

It was boring af. Aint nobody care about players families and shit.

I skipped entire segments because it was just James harden and KD talking nonsense, this should have been so much better.

So you’re saying that eating tacos on a Tuesday is not interesting to you?

Jalen brown was so boring, I felt bad cause he’s cool with all he’s doing. But Shai and tyreese especially were just way more interesting.

KD could’ve been left off completely idk if he added anything of value for me personally outside of his mom and hearing his mvp speech again

Yea lowkey 😂 I skipped jaylen browns parts but was interested in kd and harden

Ant was very likeable in a goofball, dumb jock who impregnates everyone sort of way

I’m surprised people wouldn’t want to follow the life of an homophobic deadbeat father.

Wait really? Ant and Jimmy are the only two I watched for. And Lebron I suppose

Probably hard to get the players to really open up and schedule time for the interviews in any meaningful way through the season.

Hard Knocks is the same way but the NFL has a million players so the 8th string linebacker fighting for a snap can do all the interviews and have some drama on the one or two snaps he actually plays.

It’s honestly pretty enjoyable

I would be happier to see role players rather than stars. A lineup of a player hustled from G-League and trying to find footing, a superstar, a washed up veteran, a rookie and a border line all-star would be awesome.