2x more FTA than FGA is wild, but the main stat here by OP is pretty dumb, and this is coming from a Heat fan who now hates Jimmy Butler.

He is constantly in the paint. The main reason the stat is dumb is that when you get fouled taking a shot, that shot does not count as a field goal attempt. He is not an outside shooter who kicks out his leg, or a driver who is whipping his head back as soon as he feels a bump (no offense, Thunder and Knicks fans).

Yes, he “baits fouls,” but he also puts his body on the line and that’s part of why he’s constantly injured… He is one of the most assertive slashers and post players at his position. He is very difficult to guard without fouling.

He isn’t doing bullshit rip throughs, he is constantly pressuring the defense and flying through the air, being flattened.

If you break this down with further advanced stats, it is nowhere near as bad as OP makes it seem. Jimmy lives in the paint. Everybody he is being compared to is a perimeter player that gets to the line in a completely different way.

*12 FGAs and 8 FTAs per game basically means in the average game, he’s shooting about 16 times and getting fouled 25% of the time. Nothing crazy based on the way he plays.

Just because I’m an annoying Knicks fan, where can I find Brunson ftr?

I feel like at this point y’all just making up stats

Tf you mean “about time”, people have been saying this for a decade.

He is 100% not. If you watch a game with james harden some of the calls are iffy. Jimmy is just good at getting defenders in odd positions although he gets an occasianal favorable call.

demar derozan is not talked about enough, he is almost as bad as sga

Same

After 21-22 season, I was so frustrated (and honestly bored) with the slog that was the Heats offense. It’s not a coincidence how fast they are playing this year after Jimmy left

Really you dont like scoring from fts.

Funniest shit I have seen. This was also the game OKC got beat by Oladipo. 😅

I remember that was like the only national tv game we got all season and it was only because it was flexed last minute, then the heat had like the best FT shooting game in NBA history 😭😭😭

That was the game where Giddey was basically assaulted on the last play with no call too right?

the truth of the NBA is that once you have a positive or negative reputation for any reason theres a 99% chance you can do whatever the fuck you want and it won’t change how you’re already perceived

I mostly suspect its a bit of revenge for Draymond getting away with so much jabber and so bullshit on his screens and defense in general. They’re inseparable at this point, but it would be fascinating to see a Curry in his prime on a team with less “physical” defense.

There’s no grand conspiracy except for the one against Steph

Says who? The older he gets the more 3s he shoots.

He doesn’t really drive much or go into physical defenses

We just literally went through half a decade of your team setting illegal screens, blatantly out of bounds, Draymond fouls without be called. Warriors fans can pipe tf down lmao.

Yeah but on the other hand he gets to virtue signal on reddit

Also that 2020 I think game 4(?) performance was one of the greatest finals performances of any of Bron’s opponents which is a massive list lol

Plenty of us still are grateful for what Jimmy did for the franchise. 

Because not everyone in the world is the same person lol. It’s that simple..

Honestly? It kinda feels like if you were to get robbed on the streets, then someone chases after the robber then proceeds to beat the absolute shit out of him, to the point where he’s stomping his unconscious head into the pavement.

Like yeah I’m glad you got my wallet back but damn is he breathing 💀

Jimmy fucked over the franchise and intentionally lost games that I paid money to watch.

He might has well just stood there and given the middle finger to the crowd.

And I’m supposed to like him?  Nope. 

How does it not? Im not talking about getting fouled, just Imagine if curry was as good as someone like harden at foul baiting, would it not annoy you to see him flailing into your guys to get to the line knowing that he was the greatest shooter ever. It would definitely suck at least to me. 

Ok I love a hate circlejerk as much as the next guy but this is getting ridiculous. Youre painting jimmy butler out to be some three stooges joke on offense. He’s a solid midrange shooter, capable facilitator and is by definition a slasher - ie he generates most of his offense off of drives to the basket. There’s a reason he dragged two pretty unworthy teams to the NBA finals.

Jimmy is VERY talented. He earned that bag and grabbed it when an opportunity arose. Cant blame him or the warriors. His value is in the playoffs.

If we go through the top 10 FGA leaders so far this season:

Tyrese Maxey - 1st FGA / 8th in FTA

Luka Doncic - 2nd FGA / 1st FTA

Cade Cunningham - 3rd FGA / 13th FTA

Jalen Brunson - 4th FGA / 27th FTA

Lauri Markkanen - 5th FGA / 20th FTA

Jaylen Brown - 6th FGA / 30th FTA

Donovan Mitchell - 7th FGA / 19th FTA

Shai Gilgeous-Alexander - 8th FGA / 4th FTA

Steph Curry - 9th FGA / 32nd FTA

Devin Booker - 10th FGA / 11th FTA

If you wanted to go Top Ten in FTA:

Luka - 2nd FGA / 1st FTA

Giannis Antetokounmpo - 11th FGa / 2nd FTA

Austin Reaves - 20th FGA / 3rd FTA

Shai - 8th FGA / 4th FTA

Paulo Banchero - 36th FGA / 5th FTA

Deni Avdija - 22nd FGA / 6th FTA

James Harden - 19th FGA / 7th FTA

Maxey - 1st FGA / 8th FTA

Jimmy Butler - 75th FGA / 9th FTA

Pascal Siakam - 13th FGa / 10th FTA

If you wanted to do Butler’s contemporaries:

Dennis Schroeder - 11.9 FGA (71st) / 2.1 FTA (130th)

Stephon Castle - 11.9 (72nd) / 6.5 FTA (28th)

Aaron Gordon - 11.8 FGA (73rd) / 4.6 FTA (41st)

Jerami Grant - 11.8 FGA (74th) / 6.7 FTA (26th)

Quentin Grimes - 11.5 FGA (76th) / 4.3 FTA (49th)

Ivica Zubac - 11.4 FGA (77th) / 2.7 FTA (88th)

Fwiw, Jalen Duren is 83rd in FGA at 11.1 and 13th in FTA at 7.3.

The point is, I don’t think there’s as much of a correlation as OP suggests, even if Butler is definitely an outlier.

Yeah, Jimmy’s an outlier. And he grifts. My point is more “FGA does not correlate to FTA”. There are better stats to look at for this.

It’s a different style of play. He’s not Luka who takes a lot of midrange and outside shots. Jimmy drives downhill a bunch, less foul baiting.

How this is getting upvotes but the guy above you is getting down voted is hilarious. I’ve watched Jimmy butler somewhat closely most of his career, I’ve hardly ever seem him engage in the typical foul drawing shenanigans so your comment seemed completely detached from reality. but fuck it figured maybe my bias was getting in the way so i sat down and watched all 86 fouls drawn by Jimmy this season so far, the closest thing to a rip through was this foul on Aldama not a single foul drawn did he hook a player and the majority of the fouls where drawn on a drive/in the paint.

Yeah Warriors whistle and Jimmy whistle are basically opposites lol