[Charania] The NBA is launching a league-wide biomechanics assessment program in attempt to reduce injuries moving forward.
Consultants about to eat. Few million to tell the league to stop b2bs
You know what they say, billable hours is undefeated
Back to backs are an issue but not as big of an issue as pace is with the floor spread out and 7 footers having to guard the perimeter
Pace is super high, floor super spread out, insane movement of offenses (and defense has to keep up)
Yeah 6’6” 220+ humans are not made to do that for so many games and so much movement, stop and start movement too
Even if you remove back to backs, there’s still 82 games of insane pace, then playoffs, honestly idk how they don’t break down even more
The consultants will also say to reduce the number of games. And we all know that’s a non starter since the players don’t want to lose money.
There’s probably a middle ground there, i think there’s a way to make games have higher stakes which would benefit players and broadcasters
But it’s not happening they just signed a new TV deal
You don’t need to remove 20+ games, like maybe 10 would be a start
Losing any games would mean losing money though. That’s the catch 22 unless there’s a way to have each game generate more money even if the total is dropped from 82 to say 70. I’m not smart enough to know how that could even be done.
Losing superstars also means losing money, removing like 6 games would actually be huge and eliminate a lot of B2Bs which is a great start
And with less games you have more incentive to win, less load management since it would matter more
Like i said, they just signed a new TV deal so this isn’t happening but the NBA would have to do something, this pace with players doing this is not sustainable
I hear you, ideally I’d love for the season to be 60 games even. Then each one really really matters. Plus there’s more rest time built in.
I just don’t know how the league convinces all the parties to agree to it since everyone loses money. We would get a much better product every year, but everyone takes a pay cut.
2 games (1 home, 1 away) against every team.
Extra pay for NBA Cup games (incentive to be better).
Reduce first round of the playoffs back to FT3. Bonus pay for a sweep.
That would lose like 30% of the league wide revenue lol
Yeah you can’t go after playoff games at all costs, those actually make money. There are some regular season inefficiencies you could exploit if you get smart about it
Moves wolves to east, add Vegas and Seattle teams. Make each division 4 teams, so its even. Players face all division teams 3 times and non division teams twice, would be a total of 70 games. Personally I think keeping a small amount of back to backs would be okay too, for teams located in same city/general area. If raptors or 76ers or something are going all the way to la to face the clippers, let them face lakers the day after. Kings/warriors, nets/Knicks, heat/magic, rockets/spurs, one back to back at the expense of less traveling and more recovery days probably would be a net win
I like this idea but I also don’t see a reason you couldn’t still have a day inbetween games.
I’m also in favor of getting rid of preseason and just starting the season instead at that time.
62 games plus extended playoffs. Play each team home and away , much fairer
10 games is just cutting the 3rd game vs everyone in conference not in division. It makes a lot of sense
Games aren’t going down.
The simple solution is to stop playing guys 40 minutes a night. You’ve got 12 guys suited up to share 240 minutes, so no reason at all why anybody has to average 35 minutes a night in this league.
So simple, then we just gotta get the coaches to pinky promise that they won’t play starters an extra 5 minutes against bench players to win a close game.
I mean baseball did it with pitchers. It would be radical but a universal 30 minute cap would be the analogous thing
They didn’t do that because of injuries. They did it because it’s a more effective way to win games by changing pitchers after 2-3 rubbed through the lineup.
But has that even reduced injuries? If anything it just causes pitchers to throw harder and fuck up their shoulders more.
I could be wrong but injuries feel pretty similar even after the pitching limitations
Well if you want to be pedantic about it, you just institute a nightly minutes cap rule and call it a day. Then it really is that simple.
But I’m not convinced that’s necessary. If you actually prove a link between load and injuries, then it naturally follows that you play guys less minutes or they get hurt. This is why pitchers in baseball rest 4 days between starts and generally get pulled around 100 pitches no matter how good they’re doing. There’s no rule for that - just everybody understands it’s fucking dumb to overwork a pitcher because of arm strain. Perhaps basketball nowadays is the same and over 30 minutes too often is playing with fire.
All of that said - I remain very skeptical that load is the core problem. I think the issue lies more in youth sports specialization not developing bodies properly during formative growth years.
Add 2 teams, double round robin, so 62 games. Expand the NBA cup to be 32 seeded KO tournament with 8 groups of 4 (3 games) + 4 KO rounds. You can do this leading up to all star weekend, finals on Saturday of allstar weekend. Then give everyone a week off afterwards. adds up to 7 ‘high stakes’ games. Give the winner of the nba cup the pick between the 1st and 2nd round (or even first non lottery pick)
You end up around the 70 games mark, with an actual meaningful tournament and more high stakes games.
Rivalry games actually matter, because you can only watch it once at home, instead of seeing (in my case) the Sixers play the Celtics 3 times in the first 12 games.
Stars will sit out less so more interest in games as well.
I honestly think this can offset most of the loss from games.
Minor nitpick - draft picks won’t motivate the players in NBA cup; players generally don’t want to get their replacements drafted to the team, especially the bench players. Feel like money and enough prestige associated to the NBA cup is a good reward for players. Otherwise love it.
I think OKC already cracked part of the code. You need an insane amount of depth to keep players fresh.
This is why silver was floating the idea of 10 minute quarters.
If it’s still 82 games then the load on the players is still very high. The problem statement is that there’s 82 games of high intensity ball which is increasing injury risk. If it’s 82 slightly shorter games at high intensity, that load problem is still there. I’m not sure what problem Silver was thinking to solve with that idea.
Might even be worse with 8 less minutes per game the starters might want to play more or the coaches might want to use the bench less than usual
Yea exactly. Could mean more high stakes minutes.
Owners*
Both. Players overwhelmingly vote against reducing games every time its brought up.
Owners will lose more than the players…
Maybe say stretch the season out even further?
Instead of the regular season, I’ve been wanting them to reduce the number of playoff games. The format could be 3-5-7-7 and still have the play-in games.
Like you said though, they don’t want to lose money, and post season money is the biggest of them all so that’s not happening either
it’s also not going to happen because it will forever screw up season records, like games played, consecutive games played, points/rebounds/assists in a season, minutes, basically anything that’s cumulative instead of an average will just become untouchable.
Pace is the answer. Lack of B2Bs help however they dont solve the problem
The actual reason pace is up is because physical defense is removed. People are free to move since you can’t touch anyone which is causing this increase pace. Look at the league before all this, before freedom of movement, you wouldn’t see any of this. If you can be physical, pick and rolls are less effective because you can stick on the offensive player better which decreases the space. This Adam Silver NBA is why people are getting more hurt. Physical basketball did not have any of these injuries.
It’s unwatchable watching these track meets and 3 point contests, silvers gimmick nba has damaged the brand
This is a natural evolution of the game due to defensive and offensive schemes changing. But I don’t think you’d see teams reducing pace or using less switching if the game was more physical.
Shooting more from the outside is because guys are better at scoring from there, and the math just makes more sense. Adam Silver didn’t create the 3pt line.
Switching and just moving your feet more on defense is a fundamental of many team sports. Being able to touch up a guy who’s driving more isn’t going to do much to stop those shooters. You’ve never been able to touch up shooters, so I don’t see how physicality is a solution here either.
Outrunning the coverage is another fundamental of team sports. Adam Silver isn’t the reason we have so much pace now. Look at Miami. Did you know that Spo wanted to play this pace with the Big3. Dude’s wanted to play fast for over a decade, and just never had the legs to do it. These are just basic strategies. Pace was dumb high in the past.
I don’t think there’s any solution in the past, unless we want to get serious and delete the 3pt line. I remember when they moved the line out further. There’s only so much you can do about that. With logo 3s now being a thing, we can probably make that the 3pt line, and everything else is a 2. But then you’re now increasing the amount of area that needs to be defended in the halfcourt, which isn’t going to hear wear and tear.
So, I say delete it. Steph is anointed GOAT 3pt shooter, he gets a set of steak knives, and the game goes back to a midrange and paint affair.
Theres not really anything you can do about pace though. This is happening in the MLB with pitcher injuries. These guys keep throwing faster and facing more injuries nut realistically you cant ask then to slow it down
Extend the season so there is more overall rest between games. Increase division games decrease games against the other conferences( this will reduce time spent in the air). Increase the shot clock to 30 seconds to slow the pace of the game.
Consultants cant tell the league to change game style, whilst limiting b2bs is an easy fix
They actually can, you can do stuff to limit pace, make defense more useful
How
A few things
This makes Lebron’s longevity even more insane to think about
Consultants of any kind, in any field, are always eating. It’s a cheatcode for free money
They’ve been swindling HBO Max for years
More likely outcome is for the league to use them as a scapegoat:
“Our third-party study revealed that it’s on the players to stretch more and back to backs or the 82-game schedule isn’t causing this”
They are never going to stop b2bs unless there is a financial incentive too. Either way someone is getting paid to scream into the void.
Consultants are going to make bank telling the NBA what they want to hear, not the truth
You think they’re going to be hiring experienced experts in the field and not some McKinsey fresh grads out of Yale?
Consultants: just layoff half the players!
Anything they gotta do to dodge the “Play fewer games and add more days of rest in between” part of it all, lol
If it doesn’t start with “back to backs shouldn’t exist”, then what are we even doing.
Not the only thing, but…yeah, they shouldn’t exist.
Only way to get a handle of it is having less arenas hosting NHL and NBA teams since their schedules overlaps.
Play fewer games = less money. Neither side of the CBA is accepting that. It’s a non starter.
More time between games also means a shorter off season which the players also won’t go for.
Also the season is already 9 months.
Only for two teams.
The regular season is much shorter than that, it starts at the end of October and lasts through mid April. That’s 7 months at most.
I think the league can survive an October start tbh. Still 82 games but more spread out, everyone wins.
They also hate the ratings hit when they overlap with football and baseball. I’ve seen proposals where they start later and end in late July.
ending in late July would affect the national team duties for a bunch of players too
The thing that gets me about this is that the product suffers horribly because of the huge number of injuries. As a big NBA fan I would much rather watch 20% fewer games if it meant players were significantly healthier. Hell there are too many games to keep up with as it is. And I feel like the same would translate to seeing games in person; like who wants to pay $$ to take your kid to a game if there’s a 50+% chance the kid’s favorite player is not playing. Feels like standard short term corporate thinking but also ultimately shooting themselves in the foot
I know, but feels like something will have to give at a point. Realistically this will all just be theater with the NBA trying to see if they can find something to blame for injuries instead of “They play 4x a week for 6 straight months”
Think of it as an opportunity cost rather than actually less money. Maybe all the players take a 2% raise one year instead of 10%. I don’t think league revenue would actually go down unless they cut the amount of games in half
The revenue would definitely go down. Look at COVID. The owners wouldn’t even take the hit on empty arenas then. Fewer games would mean fewer home games and a revenue hit. That would have to be shouldered by both sides and neither would go for it.
As an example, from 2007 to 2016 the leagues TV deal was worth around \(1B annually, then it jumped to \)2.7B in their next deal signed in 2014. Even if they cut out say a quarter of games at that moment, their deal would still probably be north of $2B annually or double what it was before.
Gate revenue is less than a quarter of overall revenue, so yes you lose some there, but you’re still coming out ahead.
It’s not a loss of revenue if you do it right, just an opportunity cost, and that already exists anyway
Its either go back to the plodding pace of decades ago OR get rid of games and add more rest days (i.e. teams only play 2x a week).
Its either go back to the plodding pace of decades ago
NBA almost died because of low 2000s pace and awful games, it was the worst era ever, awful finals ratings and boring slow games
Good news, they’re already killing the ratings with endless stoppage and ads
Yeah, I wasnt around for the deadball era but I’d rather watch that with limited ads and stoppage then what we get nowadays
This always is the narrative about the low ratings in the early 2000s, but I don’t think it’s that simple. I won’t deny that it was a less interesting product, but material factors like NBC losing the TV contract in 2002 and the Jordan Bulls era ending certainly had an impact on ratings too. It’s not just slower game = less viewers. They could stand to make some pro-defense rule changes imo.
Early 2010s were also significantly slower than today’s game. Those games were fun
Shut down a few teams like pelicans and wizards to reduce the number of games.
Problem with the ‘reduce the games’ proposal is that owners, players, and the networks have to all agree
They need to work on AAU. Kids are playing 3x more games than they did 20 years ago and are showing up with the body strain of 30+ year olds when they get to the league.
I feel like this is really a big part of the issue. These kids are coming into the league with insane miles on their bodies if they’re anywhere near being a prospect
Yeah, the mentality of “want to play professionally? you have to play non-stop, year round ball.” is wrecking kids.
Also, there is good evidence that specializing in one sport too early increases injury risk
Especially when people try to compare way back in the day to today in regards to players playing all 82 games, how many games in total were played by those guys before they got to college or the NBA?
It’s also the mentality of “my kid is my meal ticket, they have to make the league, so they gotta grind harder than everyone else”.
Few years ago, I think there was an article about this. Like how players bodies are ticking bombs.
Got it.
We’re seeing the effects of non stop travel ball across baseball and softball and basketball now. Until colleges specifically stop recruiting these kids that are already worn down then it won’t stop I’m afraid.
I remember playing 3 games in one day for AAU at like 12 years old lol It’s pretty regular for AAU
Children need to play different sports, not off season basketball.
Guys like siakam and embiid are from Africa, thet didn’t start basketball till later than most. Guys like Jordan would play golf most of the off season. Grinding your jump shot or layup 1000 times a day might improve your shooting, it might give your knees RSI at 22.
Is Embiid the best example for this?
Out of the 400+ players in the league, how many played basketball year round before they made the league? I bet it is a large majority like 95% or more
This is definitely a big part of the core issue. Kids are playing 100+ games a year nowadays, year round, with no breaks.
But the even bigger problem is not AAU per se. It’s that kids are dedicating themselves to single sports at a super young age, which means their bodies don’t get to properly develop all the muscle groups. It’s different movements and stress points in different sports, but your body needs all its muscles to avoid injury.
It’s the same thing in baseball with arms. Most pitchers expected to blow out elbow at some point and need tommy john. They throw so many games before making it to big leagues. This is why they have innings limits for a lot of young guys.
This is it. To exacerbate the problem, those 3x more games also rely on athleticism because a lot of AAU coaches aren’t teaching how to play. Plus, single sport specialization screws with muscle development. These kids would be better off playing ⅓as much basketball, and also playing other sports.
they also aren’t playing multiple sports so they strain themselves more.
Get rid of b2bs. Institute regular yoga classes.
You forgot to charge the league $100 million for that consultation.
Those are freebies. I have a couple other ideas that will cost them!
There is a school of thought that the push to eliminate 4 games in five nights and reduce the number of back-to-backs has ended up reducing the number of true rest days players have during the season. Stan Van Gundy mentions this during some commentary in 2k25, and Kerr said this yesterday:
“We literally haven’t had a single practice on this road trip,” Kerr said. “Not one. We’ve been gone a week or longer. Eight days, not one practice. It’s just game, game, game. So not only is there no recovery time, there’s no practice time. What was different was back in the day, you did have four [games] in five nights, which was not great, but then you’d have four days between games. You’d take a day off and have a couple good practices.
”https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/47015001/kerr-concerned-nba-increased-pace-leading-injuries
The only solution is to reduce games. They will have to rip off this bandaid and take a short-term hit for long-term gains, or keep going down the slope to an unsustainable product.
hey so maybe the human body isn’t built to play 82 games of nba level basketball
Nonsense! Bob Cousy, Bob Pettit and Bob McAdoo did it back in the day, clearly Kawhi Leonard can play 82 games a season with back to backs + however many playoffs games they have.
To be fair what those guys did was also impressive. Wilt playing 48 minutes per game in chuck taylors, whilst traveling commercial is insane
When you watch those games it’s less impressive, there’s way less moving around and there’s a reason players were able to do that
The floor was mega shrunk, basically the paint and a little bit more was used, the rest was players sitting around watching someone iso
There were 50 fast breaks a game, it was like atrack meet
Yeah I don’t get when people say players didn’t move back then. They didn’t have the modern motion offenses and extreme cutting we see today, but boy did they run.
Yeah I hate these types of comparisons. It’s essentially a different sport compared to how they played 50-60 years ago. The conversation goes absolutely nowhere when anyone tries to bring up Wilt playing 48 mpg.
48 minutes per game in chuck taylors
There actually are some arguments that this was actually helpful for longevity.
Modern footwear is so grippy that, combined with the constant pace and change of direction, payers are putting bigger spikes of energy on their joints/muscles/ligaments.
Essentially same reason why real grass is safer than turf for football. Real grass has some natural give. When there’s less give in the surface where your feet contact the ground, that means more force is being applied to the legs. It’s like a mini crumple zone when you think about it.
Or maybe it’s the ton of mileage these athletes are getting in their youth leagues…I can’t imagine that is ideal for developing joints and ligaments. This just seems like another cash or privacy grab to get more data on their players (and possibly sell it).
Injuries are going happen anyways, Dudes were injured in training camp, they were injured in early couple weeks, even if they lower the games to 60-65 games players will still miss games
Exactly. We’re like 15 games into the season, not 40. We have this injury conversation literally every year to start the season, at what point do we accept it’s a fact of the game
It’s a high velocity sport, players will still miss games of course.
But the goal is to reduce the overall injury rate, and one big way is to either space out the season (even more) or reduce games played.
Shams became a weird NBA mouthpiece
Somebody pointed out the other day that Woj was a journalist for a long time before he became a news breaker.
Shams literally just breaks stories and there isn’t any substance behind any of it. He’s also just not that great on TV. He really struggles to get through this segment because he has specific things he needs to say rather than just talking about it.
Woj was recently on Ryen Rusillo’s pod basically saying why he left. Shams is just odd now.
That’s a knock against Woj in my book. Shams has never pretended to be a journalist while Woj was constantly engaging in unethical access journalism.
Never pretended to be a journalist?
SHAMS LITERALLY KEEPS HIS LOYOLA SCHOOL OF JOURNALISM DEGREE IN THE BACKGROUND OF HIS ESPN CAMERA SHOT
a degree in journalism isn’t only good for being a dime a dozen journalist though is it? why not be proud of a degree you earned if it’s still related to your job
The first thing I noticed, he’s struggling with this words so much. Maybe a bad night of sleep? A bit jarring listening to him
Its like when government contractors end up working in government positions?
Shams has always been a mouthpiece for not only the nba but players and the agents as well
He sucks, his whole vibe is always off
He’s so cringe. Less grease in the hair would be better too
in the KD interview with Cade Cunningham
KD actually says they have nodes(?) put on them, that tracks their energy/fatigue level during games. to the point KD said they’re almost like lab subjects. and other league people have talked about how that outputs a bunch of stuff about whether players should rest, can play, etc.
given they already have that in place, what more could they do?
biomechanics assessment means they’re to change the way people run/jump to make it easier on their bodies
its just more testing, as Shams says in the clip. they already have testing is what im saying
P3 exists to track all that stuff with force plates, they have live tracking happening with players (KD literally said they have chips put on them).
I thought they already do that?
I remember reading how some guys like Curry learned to fall differently so he doesn’t put so much pressure on his ankles
Or just not jump as much. Unless you’re a freak like LeBron or MJ, if you don’t jump like Stockton, Andre Miller, Jokic, you’ll probably have a longer career
yeah, but I think this is about the rise of like calf and achilles injuries league wide
Nobody in this entire thread knows what biomechanics is besides you lol
I remember awhile ago reading that Bron has a person on payroll who watches games just to track how he’s running, landing, jumping, cutting, etc. So that idi he’s showing any signs of something being off, they address it before it becomes a serious issue
Was watching old LeBron highlights and two things stood out to me was his foot strike and how he landed. Dude was so ahead of the game and mindful of his body at a young age.
prison?
It feels like that Silver/owners keep funding studies that suggest there are too many games, and are desperately trying to gather data that suggests any other root cause or possible solution that will cost less.
BTW steroid use leads to weakened tendons and increased risk of tendon injury. I don’t think it’s responsible for all the injuries (KD def not on steroids) but it’s a possible contributor.
this is common corporate bs. they know what they have to do. but they can’t do nothing right now since they just signed that media deal.
comments here don’t know what biomechanics are
They are mechanics that fix biographies
exactly
It’s interesting to think about, but I’m doubtful that the science is there to affect decisions that impact injury outcomes. Like clearly certain players are higher risk for injury by how they play and/or how they’re built (Derrick rose, zion). Maybe with some 360 tracking, and computer analysis you can quantify that and identify players that are at higher injury risk by the way they move. I can see how that could be helpful for scouting/roster building. That said, I don’t see it preventing injuries. We already know what puts players at injury risk, if you’re playing fatigued, in pain, with compensation (like a limp), you’re putting yourself at risk. Strength and conditioning and rehab post injury helps prevent that. There’s no data or tech that’s going to revolutionize how NBA players are built and move. Retraining the way you move is tough; it takes players years to rework their shot. You’re not going to hold out your star player because he has a pelvic tilt or whatever when he runs. Plus, they’re training to maximize their production not to prevent injury and sometimes those things are at odds. I think of it like baseball, where pitching faster increases injury risk. You’re going to take that 10% higher injury risk any day of the week if it means winning games.
Posted about this yesterday in another thread, and I’m very interested to learn what I can about this “official biomechanics program” as the study needs to reach far beyond the NBA schedule in my opinion.
Work in the footwear industry and I’ll be shocked if they look at one of the elephants in the room - what these athletes were wearing during their developmental years.
We’ve had super-critical foam technologies dominating youth basketball for over a decade now - TPU beads, supercritical EVA, all engineered for maximum bounce and cushioning. Great for marketing. Potentially catastrophic for biomechanical development.
When a 12-year-old’s musculoskeletal system is adapting to load and impact, it’s doing so based on the feedback it receives. Put that kid in shoes that artificially amplify energy return and dampen every ground contact, and you’re changing the entire adaptation process. The intrinsic foot strength, proprioceptive mapping, and tendon/ligament resilience that should develop more naturally. They’re all being shaped by an artificial system.
Fast forward to the NBA: the cardiovascular fitness is there, the skills are elite-level, but the connective tissue hasn’t built the durability it would have developed under more natural loading conditions. The soft tissue can’t keep pace with what the rest of the athlete can do.
This isn’t just speculation anymore - it’s a conversation happening inside the industry, last year certainly escalated conversations. But between endorsement deals and marketing narratives, nobody’s incentivized to publicly connect these dots.
The biomechanics assessment is a start, but until we’re willing to examine the entire pipeline - including what’s on kids’ feet during their formative years - we’re only looking at half the picture.
And on another note, please cut the schedule to 68 games and start in December.
Yeah I was surprised super soft shoes were this far down
Read Ballistic: The New Science of Injury-Free Athletic Performance by Henry Abbott. It covers several athletes that P3 has worked with on biomechanical assessments and training.
Hey thanks so much, it’s on the reading list now! Really appreciate the suggestion!
You’re welcome!
Anything but shortening the season or games ffs
Money money money moneyyyyyyy. Moneyyyyyyyy
I hope they look at the shoes, and the courts.
And the training. Diet and screen time.
But on the other hand the league is getting older, well I have no data but it feels like the league is getting older.
The league already knows the reason.
The game is simply played at a much faster, more physical, and more intense standard than it was in the 80s through early 00s when there were far fewer injuries and more players playing 82 games.
The spacing out to the 3 point line increases off-ball movement, ground that needs to be covered defensively, effort from role players, mileage on big men, and the general increase in transition play further exacerbates it all. The more you demand of players in the form of explosiveness and physical exertion, the more you’ll run into injuries.
There’s no actual fix for this without killing the game. Reducing the number of games in the schedule will reduce injuries but will not fundamentally affect the rate at which injuries happen. There have been a ton of injuries only 15 games into the season, so it’s not just about games played.
I bet they’ll land on longer ads 😂😂😂 give players more of break!
Free PED’s.
Anything besides reducing the schedule. ANYTHING!
Hopefully everything from this will be published, as the NBA could give many millions or even billions of dollars to this and help advance sports medicine and human biomechanics research tremendously
Obviously not all data from the 0.001% athletes moving in ways, speeds, and as often as they do will be transferable to most humans but much of it would benefit most other athletes and maybe could learn more about more fundamental biomechanics and help in areas that effect the average person too.
Give players PTO days basically that they need to preschedule before season so that fans will already know which games they’ll be missing
John Stockton missed 20 career games in 18 seasons in the fucking 1980s and 1990s. Give me a fucking break
But the pace of play is SOOOOO much higher now that these athletes can no longer take the 82 game grind 🙄🙄
Increase roster size, rotate more players.
The league is deeper than ever. It’s time to give the 7-12 guys a little more playing time.
People are obviously talking about the B2B’s and the wear the season puts on the body, which is all true, but I think one of the biggest reason for injuries has been AAU (not exactly AAU but I’ll explain).
It has been shown that focusing on one sport and overplaying it can essentially just slowly wear down those specific muscles you use and make them more susceptible to injuries.
We need to stop pushing kids to play year round sports so they can get a scholarship and make it big. We need to promote playing multiple sports and people letting their body recover. I personally believe that this new era of athletes having been pushing their bodies since they were 10 and they are just failing them.
This is not just an NBA issue, this is a systemic issue.
They’re gonna pay millions for those folks to tell them the pace is too fast and they play too many games.
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The owners and players have to agree to reduce the amount of games. That would mean less money for both. Adam Silver doesn’t have the power to reduce the schedule.
Gonna get the reason why Kawhi has bad knees before we get the reason why Kawhi signed the contract with the Clippers.
Are they reducing number of games as a result of the findings?
Only took the best player of the past decade getting hurt because the league let’s him get hacked to start this
Can Charania get some coaching for how to speak on TV like he’s stopping after every word its unlistenable.
Yeah but what about illegal cap circumvention?
Or, every few games, starters/star players can play less than 30 minutes… there’s a reason why the NBA roster is as big as it is.
How about you ask the old heads who seemingly never got injured instead of wasting all your time and energy on fancy gimmicks
Doing everything except reducing the schedule
I want to keep the 82 games and 12 min qtrs. Just lengthen the season. Ensure that every team has at least 1 day of rest between games. I don’t know if players would accept a shorter off-season though
Unironically allowing certain PEDs for things like muscle recovery and whatnot could help. I’m not a doctor though so take this with a grain of salt
More player development and international recruiting. Keep the product quality up while playing 12-15 players a game.
The issue is that NBA players are weak, lanky pussies who don’t try or practice hard enough. This wasn’t an issue for MJ, Ewing, Stockton, Malone, Pippen, Dumars, Duncan, or any other 90s player. Guys like Kawhi are complete and utter pussies.
I’ll save them some money… playing with new shoes every night and sometimes changing them at halftime is not good for your biomechanics
Stop being soft on the goons of the league. They try to hurt someone they need a very long suspension. It literally pays to have a cheap shot artist on your team in the NBA. If they player they hurt missed games the goon should miss those games as well before they start serving their suspension.
10 minute quarters 72 game season. Problem solved.
Well some of the injuries happened by the players moving upwards, so I am not sure about the scope of this program…
Yall took away defense … so no shit the pace is up…
10 minute quarters would make sense.
Study Mikal Bridges
The league is rigged. Gotta fix that first Adam.
They’ll do anything BUT reduce the no. of games 😂
In, fire 30% of the workforce, new logo, boom! Out. You are now a fully trained, management consultant.
The dumbest fucking league
I wanna say this wouldn’t change much for future nba prospects main reason because
All of these prospects now in high school play AAU summer circuits that add way more muscle exhaustion and tear. By the time they get to the college to pros they have more chances of getting hurt.
Main reason the nba during the early 80s to 2000s we didn’t deal with this type of problems and most players played 70 games or more they didn’t have to handle playing so much basketball when they were younger .
I don’t see how this will change anything, I’d be surprised if most teams don’t already do this on their own.
Between this and the minimum games requirement the league and how its covered is going to be completely redefined.
Everybody needs to remember this when they say there needs to be less than 82 games…
Players themselves would say no to that. That would cost them quite a bit of money.
What are they gonna do? Reduce the number of games? lol
Add two expansion teams, teams play each opponent twice (one home, one away), 62 game season, no more B2B
I’m doing a my masters on this.
Back to backs should be illegal. Why do teams play b2b then have four straight off days. There has to be better scheduling. Start the season a week earlier if needed.
Save the money and make the announcement today: “Shortening the season is out of the question.”
They’re going to care about their money first and foremost. So they’re not going to reduce how many games there are in a season. That’s a nonstarter discussion point.
Besides, how is reducing the games going to fix people getting injured days or even weeks into the season? Clearly other factors are at play here.
The most immediate solution to where the league loses zero revenue is to just space games out more. Talking at least 2-3 days before every game. If your game is on Monday, the next are on Thursday and Sunday, etc. The seasons would be longer, but players have more time to recover.
People mention shortening the quarters to 10 minutes, but thats barely going to change how much people play. It’s going to make coaches play their starters more, so guys are going to be in that 35-36 range regardless. On top of each minute being even more important, so the level of effort and exertion increases. This is not a solution either.
Long term solution is definitely focusing on everything from the shoes, to the recovery methods they have, to how they train and everything in between. This is the most important focus point, but they’re not going to solve something that complex in a year. That’s going to take years especially if they’re just starting today.
Its for gambling
Play the players less minutes. 12 people on a roster, use them more. Will never be less games. Up to coaches/players to make an adjustment
How very corporate of them. “We need a committee!”
in this thread: people comparing nba games from decades ago and thinking they’re equivalent to nba games today
Honestly make the court a little bigger- players now are basically super humans playing on a court designed by guys that wore suspenders while they played.
Cool?
Somebody just do something about AAU. They’re wrecking these kids bodies before they can graduate high school.
There’s this technology called “reducing games”
The league is never going to shorten the season. Neither the owners, nor the players, will agree to giving back money.
So rule changes need to be made. Start with eliminating defensive 3 second rule.
They gonna find out all these 3s being shot is the cause.
Isn’t a huge part of the problem the mileage these guys have once they reach the NBA thanks to elite travel team ball?