Jokic in his last 10 games: 30/13/11 on 73/51/87 splits (82.0% TS)
Source
The efficiency just keeps going up lol
Am I supposed to believe that any other player is better than this man?
Plenty of OKC/Spurs/Bucks/Lakers fans will bet their lives on it :)
You don’t even know the amount of delusional fans on YouTube, twitter or Instagram who swear Giannis cooks Jokic or that Jokic is only been something like top 5 max these last few years.
Idk what basketball they’re watching but it ain’t Denver games that’s for sure.
Yes most fans only watch their own teams. They might watch Jokic twice a year if their team plays Denver.
But of course they know that their favorite player is better, based on “that’s my opinion” stats.
I’m in the camp that Giannis is the best player in the league, but it is 100% up for debate. I feel like this exacr same conversation gets hashed out whenever Giannis, SGA, Jokic, or Luka have an absurd night. They just all bring something different to the table, so it all depends on what you value. There is no real wrong opinion, aside from saying “its not even close”. Like yes, Giannis would cook Jokic, but Jokic would also cook Giannis. Both of them cook almost everyone in the league, its why they’re all-time greats.
Giannis is a poor passer, average shooter, and a world traveler. Seriously, is he in AA? Cuz that was for sure 12 steps.
He is not a poor passer lol.
Yeah, idk why people still think he is one. He has worked on his passing and mid-range shooting a shit ton, and it has shown. His only real flaws are 3-pt shooting and ft shooting.
Giannis is coming off b2b seasons of scoring 30+ ppg on 60+%. He has also become a very good midrange shooter and is a good passer. All this while being a good defender. Saying he is not in contention for best player in the world is honestly being delusional. He has been in contention since the 18⁄19 season. We’ve just gotten used to him being that guy.
They don’t watch basketball they just repeat what others tell them
Sga is in the race for sure. OKC beats teams by the 3rd quarter so sga rarely plays more than 30 min. Wemby is good but offensively he is not dominant yet. Giannis is good but he’s in the east. Luka is good but he still not dominant enough with his team.
Jokic had 52 points in three quarters today
GOAT
for this season so far
Jokic per game 33.9 min
SGA per game 34.3 min
this “sits out 4th quarter” needs to die, it’s so disingenuous. Shai plays more minutes per game than Giannis, and as many as Jokic and Mitchell.
So if you had the 1st pick in a hypothetical draft for this season, you’d pick SGA over Jokic?
For this season, not the potential for the next five or ten years.
SGA is the least deserving player to be placed in the same discussion as Jokic lol.
Doncic? Fine.
Prime Embiid? Sure
Giannis? Fucking agreed.
SGA? Beyond laughable.
That’s just hate. Jokic is the best player in the nba. SGA is certainly in the conversation for 2nd. It’s a short list. SGA, Giannis, Luka, and maybe you can stretch it to Wemby. That’s it. Acting like SGA doesn’t deserve to be in the conversation is hater energy.
Every so often Embiid plays a full 30 minutes and scores 30 and it honestly just makes me sad that we’re missing out
Same Luka who just got belt from SGA?
I’m a Spurs fan and you bet I’ll be on your ass for such a statement when Wemby drops 55 points on 91% TS…
Might be waiting for that a while though. Jokic is a phenomenon just as much as Wemby is, he just doesn’t get the credit he deserves. It’s insane how a multiple league MVP can still be criminally underappreciated.
I’m a huge Luka fan but it’s undeniable Jokic is the best in the world and he has been for years.
Hell no, everyone knows Jokic should have had 5 straight MVPs, fuck the narratives
No OKC fan thinks shai is a better basketball player than jokic
Just below your comment is an OKC fan who does…
He said he’d take giannis actually
It’s reached a point where certain fan bases on here have resorted to plugging their ears and pretending Jokic isn’t in the league
Actually a bunch of people decided Wemby is already better than him a few weeks ago, so yeah sorry you gotta
Wemby benefits greatly from the eye-test.
Man if Joker fails someones eye test I don’t wanna know their opinion on anything lol
It’s just bucks fans who don’t live in actual reality
If you wanna make the mvp case for joker im cool with that but let’s not pretend that Giannis isn’t a contender lol
there is no legitimate argument for Giannis being MVP over Jokic.
Giannis is averaging 33-12-6 while leading a lottery team to a solid record and is a way better defender than Jokic. He definitely has a case
Jokic is averaging a triple double while being the best offensive player of all time and leading a lottery team to the 2nd best record in the west. Come on now.
lottery team? Nuggets are loaded this year wtf lol. Jokic isnt on Giannis planet on defense btw, while Giannis is having a godly offensive year in his own right.
They are as efficient at defending as they are drinking beer.
I’m sorry does mvp include teams now?
This cant be real. Have a goodnight
Mostly Laker/Luka fans I see moaning most about MVP
It’s just so bad seeing Laker/Luka fans show up on my timeline about how the world is against them because Luka isn’t favorite for MVP or first in power rankings (He literally missed half the games when this came out)
Shaq still keeps downplaying how good this guy is. It’s getting annoying tbh
That’s because Shaq is insecure as hell
I still think we dont actually know how absurdly good he is. He could (maybe should) have been 5x MVP in a row and is well in the argument for being one again this season. Just completely ridiculous.
Shai, Giannis, Luka, Wemby, Sengun, Giddey, and Mitchell are all better than him
SGA is current basketball god
The Value is unprecedented
Smart people would say the most valuable
Best player in the NBA rn
ever
he makes MJ/LeBron look normal.
This stretch proves that Zubac is indeed the best Jokic defender. He kept him to 6 assists only.
Held him to a 50 bomb 😭
Could been a 70 burger if the clips didn’t fold 😔
“brother i have 55”
Isn’t the best Jokic defender his team mates not able to hit shots?
Fun fact: this is Jokic’s first ever win after getting 50+
Yeah bench is way better this year. Yet Jokic’s BPM is still super high.
He limited Jokic to 55pts in 32 minutes, truly a masterclass of defensive ability
It seems like he loses that against Jv though. That bodes well in future matchups I think. If I’m Adelman if Jokic is struggling run JV in there and give Joker a rest. I’m so excited for this team once they’re in full swing.
Held him to half his season average. Gotta celebrate those wins!
30 points on 82% true shooting shouldn’t be possible. Yet here we are.
That alone breaks my brain. Add in 13 boards and 11 dimes, dude is just so so different.
It’s 1.65 points per possession. So, he’s scoring those 30 points in 19 possessions.
You expect a player scoring about 21 points in 19 possessions. Nuggets are getting +9 differential only with Jokic scoring.
How blessed are we as NBA fans to be able to watch jokic, Shai, Giannis, Luka, and wemby 🙏
USA bout to get destroyed in the all star…
Nah Team International gonna fuck around and lose. I remember 2024 ASG Luka shot a 70 footer and started tweeting mid game thats when I stopped watching.
4 outta 5 ain’t bad!
Look at curry man
I did already
Bro is out of this world
The 3-point shooting is ridiculous.
Top of the key is absolutely automatic. I don’t understand why teams keep leaving him wide open literally right in his favorite spot.
Because he’s shooting like 90 fucking percent from 0-3 feet, you can’t let him get closer or he kills you lmao
There’s a 6’8 dude at the gym I go to, very athletic and skilled dude and a really good 3 point shooter too. Against all us normal sized people this dude will score every single time hes inside the arc. Even if he misses he’ll just rebound it til he scores so its literally about as close to 100% as it gets. No matter how hot he is from 3 we still bait him into shooting 3s cuz if he goes inside its even more over. I imagine this is exactly how players feel when guarding Jokic
whats yalls success rate lmao
99% /s
It’s 93% actually lol
Arguably the best start to a season by a player in NBA history…
I love that almost half this list is Jokic lol
Antony Davis 3rd and Luka nowhere to be seen? Niko was right all along
If Nico was right! jrue holiday should be on this list as many times as jokic. I got to stop hating on Nico Harrison.
I find it kinda funny AD made 0 threes in 11 games lol
Like even fucking Giannis shot some
Jesus christ, what the fuck are Giannis and Jokic on this season. 30+ ppg on 60% shooting is absurd
I badly want to see an APG vs PPG graph now.
73/50/86 splits lol. Efficiency god.
The best player since MJ after LeBron
So, since Lebron?
I guess he didn’t phrase it that way because Lebron is technically still around, and since usually means since they were playing rather than since they were in their prime.
Was also my interpretation, still wonky
This is very awkward phrasing lol
The 2nd best player of the 21st century is a better way of wording it
what about Jrue??
Jokic is inevitable we will never see a player like jokic ever again.
Is this the best regular season of all time ?
Best in recent memory for sure
Over the last ten games, Jokic has a rTS% of +24. Steph’s 2016 season was at +12. He’s taking a fucking dump on the version of Steph that was shooting 13 threes a game at 45%.
He’s taking a fucking dump on the version of Steph that was shooting 13 threes a game at 45%.
Man this brought back memories
I mean he’s now at almost half win shares per game, that’s incomprehensible. Anything over .300 is stellar all time great that like 5 players achieved, including Jokic like 5 times so far.
Yes. And its not even close.
He won’t keep this up though. It impossible to maintain.
It’s Jokic man… the impossible is always possible with him
Why? He’s already had full seasons over 70% ts, he’s averaged 30-point triple-doubles for a season. When you remove end-of-quarter heaves, he averaged ~45% 3p last year on nearly 5 3p attempts a game. I haven’t seen a stat he can’t keep up yet, lol.
I think this is just what Jokic looks like when he has a bench, and we’re seeing it for the first time.
I haven’t seen a stat he can’t keep up yet, lol.
82% TS is the one he can’t keep up. not a knock on him. literally no one can sustain that for a whole season.
Jokic: Hold my beers
Surely to all that is holy he can’t maintain a 28/13/11 season on 77% TS. That would be the best season in NBA history by a noticeable gap.
Jokic looks extra motivated this season, he could potentially keep this up
I’m convinced he took that opening game personally and vowed to not miss anymore
I think its because the Nugget’s head office finally took their heads out of their butts and added some decent role players (Valenciunas, Hardaway, Cam Johnson, Bruce Brown is back).
Jokic feels like they have a chance to win this year.
It wasn’t when he didn’y have a bench and couldn’t sit to rest.
Now we’ll see.
I don’t know. It’s Jokic. He is going to have something completely stupid like 60 TDs, 32 points average and 75 TS by the end of the year and everyone is just going to accept it.
So far, yup.
I can’t help but go back to Barkley and Shaq’s conversation earlier. Laughing. This is what Barkley was talking about.
They will come up with reasons not to give him MVP again
I swear if Spurs end top 3 seed they’re gonna fucking give it to Wemby
theres no debate he has the best touch around the paint ever
The full court shots haven’t swayed you yet?
Diabolical shooting right now. Best floater to ever play and the three ball is hitting.
Much more impressively the defense has been good which is nice.
Jrue Holiday could do that
You’re fired.
Btw he also leads most advanced stats for the 6th straight year. Oh and he’s the all time leader in 4 of the major advanced stats… higher than MJ, Wilt, etc.
He’s actually getting better which is the craziest part
Well last yr it was definitely split with SGA on some advanced stats
Is Jokic your MVP?
With this stats and 9-2 record he would be unanimous MVP every season in NBA history
I’m honestly fine if he doesn’t win it, even if he is obviously the best player in the world since Covid.
We had Lebron being snubbed after winning a few. Now we had Embiid/SGA get one, and I’d like to see Doncic get one.
Take Embiid per example. There was a three year period where he and Jokic contested MVP. Jokic was slightly better in all of those years, but I’m fine with Embiid winning one. When kids in 30 years look up this era, and see Jokic 3x, Embiid 1x, I think it’ll paint a good picture of their quality at the time.
LeBron only got snubbed for one MVP though, more than that would be pushing it.
I can’t stand this fat Serbian how does he keep getting better
He feeds upon your despair like a troll underbridge. Your lamentations merely hasten your inevitable demise. Or something less stupid sounding.
Glad he’s not in my conference lol
Other than Bron, this is the best basketball player I have ever seen play. Amazing olayer
I agree Lebron at his peak was probably better, but Jokic is more fun to watch IMO
Prime Bron was not as good offensively. He was however a DPOY level player so he is better overall.
High usage stars rarely have to guard best opposing players. Same was true for Lebron.
I’d still take 20 years of Lebron’s prime to Jokic’s 6⁄7 atm.
Yeah duh rim protection as a center is very important no matter how goated your offense is. Prime Bron is the best player oat.
Prime Jokic is better than prime Lebron. It’s just that it’s a minuscule difference, compared to how much longer Lebron’s prime was.
0.95x20 is much more than 1.00x6
Historic doesn’t even cut it at this point
The numbers don’t even make sense anymore, it’s so utterly absurd
He averaged that for a season with worse efficiency. I’m shaking rn we’ve never seen this before.
After this game he has a 21.5 BPM (record is 13.7), 38 PER (record is 32.8) and .455 ws/48 (record is .339). And yes +24rTs% (record for high volume is 12)
This is like twice better than the 2nd best season of all time in basketball
What makes this even more insane is that league has never been so stacked with talent. Nobody should be doing what he’s doing in today’s league.
Video Game numbers my god
Think you messed up some of these digits brother
Those aren’t human basketball player numbers
Please fix it, thanks ✌🏾
Wonder how long it takes before he’s widely considered better than curry all time.
At this point, only more rings can raise him on the all-time rankings.
Thank you lol
When he wins his 4th MVP?
Honestly, he has to start winning I’m sort of a basketball casual. These stats are cool but if you’re not winning anything, I really don’t care.
Nah winning doesn’t mean as much when you compare greatness. It’s pretty easy to understand who would have won more if Jokic got equivalent NBA talent on his teams as curry has hadm but you are a casual so that nuance probably escapes you
Winning is the most important thing when you’re comparing greatness lol I’ve never heard “winning doesn’t mean as much” at the end of the day you played to win the game I don’t really care about the “nuance”
K, then you’d be thinking Russell is the NBA goat. Which again just highlights how casual you are
Oh my God, did you just use Bill Russell fallacy ? ( yes I just invented a new fallacy in the discussion of basketball) I’ll be casual because I prefer winning alongside great statistical performances instead of just having great statistical performance so mathketball players could come to the NBA Reddit and orgasm over
And you just applied nuance to the convo and made it more than just winning. Thanks for proving my point perfectly
If that makes you feel better OK lol
Oh it does. You literally proved yourself wrong. It’s hilarious
OK, cool it still doesn’t take away from my main point lol
So Sam jones is better than Michael Jordan?
This isn’t the gotcha you think it is
It’s not a gotcha, it’s a question.
It’s a loaded question
“Does your mom know you shit your pants” is a loaded question. “Is A better than B” is not.
Ok no matter how you frame it it’s still all loaded question
One ring is how you unlock the all-time stardom. 4⁄5 rings is how you enter GOAT conversation, provided you are good enough.
Rings mean nothing between Jokic and Curry. It’s not Jokic’s fault his co-stars are G-leaguers compared to Klay and KD.
Ok
The last 5 years… nuggets finished 4, 2, 1, 6, 3. Warriors 7, 9, 6, 3, 9. Jokic is in fact winning if you compare.
Damn, I wasn’t aware he won more championships then Steph
Let me quit being an asshole for a quick second he’s in the championship or bust category now same thing we did to LeBron,Steph, etc. When you’re that great you have to produce the rings
Yeah if Lebron and Steph had the second half vs OKC that Jokic did in game 7 in their prime they would have gotten cooked all off-season and until They redeemed themselves the next postseason.
You said winning like Jokic hasn’t been winning. Championships aren’t a be all end all. But I guess to a casual you only pay attention to that.
Yes, actually that’s what most people pay attention to that’s why they play to win championships. All jokes aside, though I really come up here to be antagonistic I love when certain players have a great games NBA Reddit becomes a jerk fest lol I just can’t resist being an asshole
You hand wave away winning multiple championships until he actually wins them then it’ll somehow become an important stat to signify his greatness.
Would Murray be as good as Steph if he average the same statistic but had as many championships?
Seems pretty, maybe even most, valuable
Imagine if Joker and Shai wanted to team up and win 8 straight titles
Not bad for his 5th favorite job
Bro is shooting 79% on 2-pointers this year. 79 percent. And these aren’t layups, many of these are difficult shots.
His runners down the lane are particularly insane. I cringe a little when most shooters throw that shot up because of how often it misses, but his touch is so good it’s almost automatic.
Blud can’t even reach 50/40/90
i am ready to hyperbolize.
He needs a new nickname that has the word Value in it. Big Value or DFV.
What’s been Steph’s best 10 game stretch TS%?
Don’t take this guy for granted
that’s nothing compared to luke kornet’s 70/100/90 shooting splits season
Kornets splits in the playoffs are 73/100/88. And that’s a 43 game sample size.
What age is the peak for a basketball player? Is this the best he’s ever played?
this dude is just hitting his peak i think he can play at this ridiculous level for 2-3 years before he starts to decline or get bored of ball and go back to serbia
So far this season is his best. But we are only 11 games in so lets see if Jokic can keep it up.
pretty decent, i guess…
basketball for him is too easy🤣🤣🤣
Imagine breaking the golden standard we all know of basketball which is 50/40/90. I dont care thats its “only” 10 games. Just take another second and look at thoss numbers…….
Dafuq?
Mr. Inevitable.
Not even 50-40-90, bum
How many years does he need to keep this up to be the 🐐?
Throughout history, there were some people who were truly great in the game of basketball…
…and then there is Joker.
His current peak might just be better than any 5-6 year stretch LeBron ever had. If he gets his 4th MVP and wins another chip, we need to rethink Top 5 all time discussions.
This guy got cooked by Elias Valtonen
Imagine how much different the narrative would be if he was black!
I clearly made the point about nuance in the context of why your boy isn’t winning not nuance itself doesn’t mean anything I’m high and you didn’t grasp that? So you’re clearly sticking into the irrelevant nuance argument instead actually addressing the actual overall point cool
get help, you are talking with yourself