Team	Q1	Q2	Q3	Q4	Total
Orlando Magic	30	32	29	33	124
New York Knicks	23	19	31	34	107

Team	PTS	FG	FG%	3P	3P%	FT	FT%	OREB	TREB	AST	PF	STL	TO	BLK
Orlando Magic	124	42-86	48.8%	12-33	36.4%	28-33	84.8%	12	59	29	23	10	15	4
New York Knicks	107	39-88	44.3%	11-36	30.6%	18-23	78.3%	10	45	20	25	10	14	3


Orlando Magic	MIN	PTS	FGM-A	3PM-A	FTM-A	ORB	DRB	REB	AST	STL	BLK	TO	PF	±
Paolo Banchero^SF	12:00	4	1-4	0-0	2-2	1	3	4	2	1	1	1	0	9
Franz Wagner^PF	36:48	28	10-22	2-7	6-8	1	8	9	4	2	1	0	2	21
Wendell Carter Jr.^C	31:25	13	6-8	1-2	0-0	3	5	8	2	0	0	4	4	-3
Desmond Bane^SG	33:55	22	7-15	3-6	5-5	1	5	6	8	0	0	3	4	13
Jalen Suggs^PG	26:23	14	4-10	1-5	5-6	1	1	2	3	1	1	2	4	10
Anthony Black	23:09	17	7-11	3-5	0-0	1	2	3	3	2	1	2	2	3
Tyus Jones	13:01	0	0-2	0-0	0-0	0	1	1	3	2	0	0	1	-3
Tristan da Silva	22:11	8	3-5	1-3	1-2	1	4	5	2	0	0	1	2	22
Goga Bitadze	16:15	10	2-2	0-0	6-6	1	2	3	0	1	0	1	2	23
Jonathan Isaac	16:27	3	0-3	0-2	3-4	1	4	5	0	1	0	0	2	-9
Jett Howard	04:41	5	2-4	1-3	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	-1
Jase Richardson	01:52	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	1	0	0	0	0	0
Noah Penda	01:52	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	1	2	3	1	0	0	1	0	0
Jamal Cain	00:00	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Colin Castleton	00:00	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Orlando Robinson	00:00	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Moritz Wagner	00:00	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
New York Knicks	MIN	PTS	FGM-A	3PM-A	FTM-A	ORB	DRB	REB	AST	STL	BLK	TO	PF	±
OG Anunoby^SF	33:56	8	2-4	2-4	2-2	0	4	4	1	1	2	3	3	1
Karl-Anthony Towns^PF	34:31	15	6-15	1-4	2-2	2	10	12	4	1	0	2	5	-2
Mitchell Robinson^C	17:11	2	1-2	0-0	0-0	5	3	8	0	0	0	0	4	-11
Mikal Bridges^SG	27:59	6	3-9	0-3	0-0	0	2	2	2	2	0	0	2	-19
Jalen Brunson^PG	36:55	31	10-23	1-4	10-13	1	2	3	6	0	0	2	6	-20
Landry Shamet	27:07	11	4-6	1-3	2-3	0	3	3	1	1	0	0	1	-3
Josh Hart	18:00	10	4-10	1-5	1-1	1	2	3	2	1	1	3	2	-16
Miles McBride	20:42	9	3-8	2-5	1-2	0	1	1	1	2	0	3	1	-9
Jordan Clarkson	10:38	5	2-5	1-4	0-0	1	0	1	1	1	0	1	1	4
Guerschon Yabusele	05:25	6	2-3	2-3	0-0	0	0	0	1	1	0	0	0	-4
Tyler Kolek	01:54	2	1-1	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	-2
Mohamed Diawara	01:54	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	-2
Ariel Hukporti	01:54	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	-2
Pacôme Dadiet	01:52	2	1-2	0-1	0-0	0	0	0	1	0	0	0	0	0
Tosan Evbuomwan	00:00	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Trey Jemison III	00:00	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Kevin McCullar Jr.	00:00	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0

bigtice | Rockets

126 | 3 days ago

The Knicks came out pretty flat and missed a lot of makeable shots so the lead was relatively easy to build, but Masked Wagner got to show off how versatile his game – exploiting mismatches when a smaller guy gets switched onto him, abusing bigger guys by blowing by them and knocking down open looks when the ball gets swung to him.

FLman42069 | Magic

34 | 3 days ago

We just know how to play this Knicks team well. We exploit Brunson on the defensive end, WCJ gets physical with KAT and under his skin, we switch well on defense so that creates problems for Brunson and we close out on shooters.

zebrainatux | Knicks

29 | 3 days ago

I didn’t see the second by and thought that said abusing bigger guys by blowing them

guideway4 | Magic

30 | 3 days ago

if it works it works

bubbasnub | Magic

13 | 3 days ago

Anything for a win.

Anything

zebrainatux | Knicks

17 | 3 days ago

It’s like my grandpa always said, if you gotta suck dick for a win, you do it. I don’t think that’s what he said but I’ll assume he did

Short-Recording587 | Magic

2 | 3 days ago

Your grandpa sounds like a wise man

bigtice | Rockets

3 | 3 days ago

I made sure I wrote that correctly.

Get your mind out of the gutter.

StanVanGhandi | Magic

7 | 3 days ago

A butt is a butt in Orlando playboy

Gamesgtd | Magic

19 | 3 days ago

I mean guarding a 6’10 guy with a bunch of small guards is a choice. Not that I’m complaining. But maybe next time don’t do low resistance switching on a dude who likes posting up on mismatches

MadSpaceYT | Knicks

10 | 3 days ago

If they had the energy to score nearly 70 in the second half it makes no sense to play bad in the first. Just lazy

fps129 | Knicks

5 | 3 days ago

That was my fear. Struggled containing Giddy on both Chicago games, for example.

But yeah, Orlando was always going to be a tough matchup for this team going into tonight on a back-to-back game.

I’d even say they lost their legs going into the 4th quarter vs Memphis last night but the lead was too big for us to lose atp.

AEW4LYFE | Magic

2 | 3 days ago

I saw the legs go same time you did and knew there was no come back happening. Brunson missed a couple shots off the front of the rim and it was apparent the back to back was a big deal.

itsahmemario | Knicks

3 | 3 days ago

Wagner just balls out against us every time I feel

zebrainatux | Knicks

90 | 3 days ago

I legitimately have no idea if Orlando is good or not. They are schizophrenic as shit.

soxfaninfinity | Magic

70 | 3 days ago

We are 5-2 over our last 7 games. I’d like to think we are good now that it seems like our defense is back in order.

SubstantialTarget341 | Magic

38 | 3 days ago

They said it on the cast today but Jalen, Franz, and Paolo played 97 minutes together last year, it’s more of us just learning how to play with each other again

akajaykay | Raptors

5 | 3 days ago

Jalen has also been on a minutes limit and absolutely killing it

xBerryhill | Magic

63 | 3 days ago

In fairness, we don’t either. We’re pretty sure we are, but it’s been hard to tell.

zebrainatux | Knicks

12 | 3 days ago

It’s almost fun when your team is schizo. Fun because which one shows up. Annoying because when the bad one shows up, it sucks

Brod24 | Magic

41 | 3 days ago

The starting lineup is killing teams. The wins are mostly based on if we get good Anthony Black or not. Tonight we got good Anthony Black

lil_thirdy | Magic

26 | 3 days ago

And not so disastrous Tyus Jones minutes

Gamesgtd | Magic

20 | 3 days ago

We are good. Turns out it takes a while to integrate an important new piece

misterdave75 | Magic

8 | 3 days ago

And a whole new offense.

FLman42069 | Magic

17 | 3 days ago

Our starting 5 is very strong, just getting use to incorporating Bane and Suggs has been on a minutes restriction all season. Our bench is hit or miss but has been playing better and will eventually get Mo Wagner back. Seems like we’re righting the ship.

whtge8 | Magic

11 | 3 days ago

Sometimes maybe good sometimes maybe shit

the_mexican_menace | Nuggets

4 | 3 days ago

Sometimes the shit is happens

StanVanGhandi | Magic

8 | 3 days ago

Wanna be a fan? Come help us figure it out

BlackbirdQuill

2 | 3 days ago

Bane seems to be finding his rhythm after a terrible start to the year. That will go a long way to getting the Magic to play well.

Short-Recording587 | Magic

1 | 3 days ago

Biggest issue is turnovers. Faster pace and more passing and people trying to get too creative/cute. Cut those out and magic are good.

Aeronova20 | Magic

65 | 3 days ago

won five of our last seven! play the song!

SIVILIZ3D

24 | 3 days ago

A perfect record!

guideway4 | Magic

15 | 3 days ago

I understood this reference

Bird_and_Dog | France

5 | 3 days ago

Vintage ref

MalcolmSupleX | Magic

17 | 3 days ago

The way Magic fans talk you’d think we’ve lost 5 out of 7.

peanut-britle-latte | Knicks

66 | 3 days ago

Orlando was one of the teams I had a feeling was a bad match up for us, that first half shows why. They’re long and physical, while we play with a lot of small guards and skinner dudes.

3 PT shot wasn’t falling tonight, but I don’t love the match up at all.

xBerryhill | Magic

39 | 3 days ago

Ours wasn’t either.

It never does, but it didn’t tonight either.

misterdave75 | Magic

16 | 3 days ago

I mean 36% is “good” for our team. Not for the league, but basically a banner night for the Magic.

Gamesgtd | Magic

9 | 3 days ago

I never expect us to make 3s though

swordoftheafternoon | Magic

3 | 3 days ago

r/IncidentalMitchHedberg

FLman42069 | Magic

3 | 3 days ago

Had me in the first half

SiphenPrax | Knicks

27 | 3 days ago

It feels like we always have on and off again issues facing the Magic. They are not an easy out at all.

StanVanGhandi | Magic

8 | 3 days ago

Wait after 10 games the Magic are debatable on being an easy out or not? The season doesn’t start till Christmas

SiphenPrax | Knicks

7 | 3 days ago

When it comes to Knicks/Magic games historically, we’ve mostly always had issues when facing you guys. This year? I’d still say you guys are hard as balls to beat lol.

MddlingAges | Knicks

5 | 3 days ago

We could play Mitch and KAT together more.

Aeronova20 | Magic

59 | 3 days ago

regular franz is an all star, but facemask franz is all-nba

safwan105 | Magic

24 | 3 days ago

Regular franz is all nba when hes allowed to cook

duckduckgo2100 | Magic

6 | 3 days ago

Eurobasketball franz is FMVP material

Aeronova20 | Magic

5 | 3 days ago

facts

EarthWarping | NBA

39 | 3 days ago

Franz.

ReedWilliams12 | Magic

14 | 3 days ago

Franz.

dev1359 | Magic

1 | 3 days ago

https://youtu.be/w8wOHGkzGU8?si=Xv0bZ8vLgnNcH3XO

xBerryhill | Magic

37 | 3 days ago

If Jalen and KAT didn’t get so frustrated and start foul baiting for a lot of the second half I genuinely think NY would have come back.

Huge win for us. 5 of the last 7. And for the Paolo haters he was +9 before going out of the game. Team effort tonight, him included.

FLman42069 | Magic

17 | 3 days ago

I think the Paolo hate has pretty much cooled, he’s been playing well and doing a great job recently of taking what comes to him. The early hate was warranted, he was trying to play hero ball and chucking

Gamesgtd | Magic

9 | 3 days ago

He literally.had 1 bad game all year. That 1 game created 1000 hate posts basically and just an incorrect perception of him.

radardog2 | Magic

12 | 3 days ago

He might have put up decent stats, but he most definitely had more than one bad game this year. At least bad compared to our expectations for our face of the franchise.

CrippledBanana | Canada

1 | 3 days ago

Only thing i think he’s garbage at is free throws when they matter. 76% shooter but that trail blazers game was something lmao. Still got the dub tho

FLman42069 | Magic

1 | 3 days ago

He’s basically an average FT shooter. Not the guy you want at the line in high pressure situations but converts a decent clip otherwise throughout the game.

Fallingcity22 | Knicks

14 | 3 days ago

Nah Kat killed the momentum down 11 he missed that dunk snd that seemed to have deflated the whole team KAT was horrible all game no way we could have won that

SiphenPrax | Knicks

22 | 3 days ago

This was the sacrifice we had to make for the Rangers to finally win a home game.

Either_Imagination_9 | Knicks

6 | 3 days ago

Worth it

Low_Income4405 | Knicks

5 | 3 days ago

Oh yeah

SiphenPrax | Knicks

2 | 3 days ago

Oh definitely! Just please don’t lose ever again Knicks.

fps129 | Knicks

17 | 3 days ago

GG Orlando. Can’t keep them down for long, only a matter of time before they put together a game like this.

Tokennn | Magic

16 | 3 days ago

I love you Franz

vanbunz | Knicks

14 | 3 days ago

Magic straight up out-worked us but jeez that officiating was something else tonight

FLman42069 | Magic

8 | 3 days ago

In their defense you have two teams with players that draw a lot of fouls. Probably really tough matchup to officiate

vanbunz | Knicks

5 | 3 days ago

Just felt so inconsistent on both ends

Joefriendg | Magic

5 | 3 days ago

Every fan base says that when they play us

pichukirby | Knicks

14 | 3 days ago

I hope Brunson is okay, but man tonight was just not our night

Citruspilled | Magic

15 | 3 days ago

If this team’s shot is falling I don’t know how we lose. Problem is this is the first game that’s happened lol

jonathanisaacisgoat | Magic

14 | 3 days ago

5-2 in our last 7 and top 10 in offense and defense in the last 6 games .. the vision is coming along …

Low_Income4405 | Knicks

14 | 3 days ago

Yeah if OG and Mikal both finish under double figures we ain’t winning. Kinda simple.

FLman42069 | Magic

14 | 3 days ago

AI was wrong

Slowlow24 | Magic

8 | 3 days ago

Always is

HokageEzio | Knicks

15 | 3 days ago

Second half of a back to back against Orlando is diabolical scheduling

Joefriendg | Magic

5 | 3 days ago

Felt very schedule lossy

-orangejoe | NYK

10 | 3 days ago

First game this season the Knicks got beat on the offensive glass

asap_lichai

5 | 3 days ago

That’s the most disappointing to me and we rest Mitch for that exact reason.

IsaacDPOYFultzMIP | Magic

12 | 3 days ago

We could see an interesting Ewing Theory test case if Paolo is out for multiple games

NotManyBuses | Charlotte Bobcats

30 | 3 days ago

First option Franz might just be a superstar hiding in plain sight. This happened last year too

FLman42069 | Magic

10 | 3 days ago

The issue is we play so many stretches with one of Franz or Paolo sitting it doesn’t really matter. One of them is usually hot, they just need to be good about recognizing that

SubstantialTarget341 | Magic

13 | 3 days ago

They won’t realize that our bench has been the biggest factor to us losing, we have one of the highest rated starting lineups in the league

Flaiimz | Magic

3 | 3 days ago

We so desperately need Mo back, his energy off the bench gives like +5 stats to the second unit.

estuhbawn | Magic

8 | 3 days ago

there’s not really a test case here because the team is measurably better with paolo on the floor now.

the starting lineup is crushing, and paolo was +9 in only 12 mins tonight. for a few of those minutes he was the only starter on the floor

Exotic_Pension_9993 | Suns

9 | 3 days ago

I thought the Ewing theory applies to the best player on the team (this is franz prop not a paolo diss)

Gamesgtd | Magic

6 | 3 days ago

No. Just stop.

thewrongnotes | Magic

2 | 3 days ago

We already saw it last season when he was out

RonnocFjord | Magic

13 | 3 days ago

Brunson with an incredible audition to be the next Defence Against the Dark Arts professor tonight.

MadSpaceYT | Knicks

-10 | 3 days ago

Paolo averages 4 more fta than Brunson btw

Felix_Wyn | Magic

32 | 3 days ago

Brunson leans his ass and kicks his feet out into the defender to get his fouls. Paolo steamrolls into them. There is a very clear difference between the two.

MadSpaceYT | Knicks

-6 | 3 days ago

If that’s all it takes then KAT should average 10 as well

Also you would think Brunson gets a Luka level whistle with how the league still complains about him

Gamesgtd | Magic

15 | 3 days ago

He probably would if he didn’t push off with his arm on every drive

guideway4 | Magic

14 | 3 days ago

I like KAT but he’s too soft to play like that

estuhbawn | Magic

10 | 3 days ago

this sounds like a good point until you spend literally any amount of time watching them play

Mr_Wick18 | Magic

11 | 3 days ago

Because Paolo actually earns those calls by bulldozing his way. Brunson just knocks his head back like crazy

StanVanGhandi | Magic

6 | 3 days ago

Yeah, Shaq averaged more than Brunson too. Because of basketball

DeathsIntent96 | Magic

3 | 3 days ago

6’10” 250 vs. 6’2” 190

RonnocFjord | Magic

-1 | 3 days ago

Damn didn’t know Paolo managed more FTs than Brunson tonight that’s impressive

MadSpaceYT | Knicks

-15 | 3 days ago

I mean Brunson gets back up after getting hurt

RonnocFjord | Magic

7 | 3 days ago

Damn do you get paid to move goalposts or is it just a hobby?

MadSpaceYT | Knicks

-8 | 3 days ago

How much do you get paid for every “damn”

Joefriendg | Magic

7 | 3 days ago

Cooked

myeyeshaveseenhim

10 | 3 days ago

Looked like brunson went absolutely stone cold at one point. I sometimes wish he would look to pass more. It’s awesome when he’s hitting but sometimes he just keeps throwing them up.

DevotionToU

9 | 3 days ago

I don’t watch Knick’s games as I’m a magic fan but it seems like he is like, 99% focused on drawing a foul whenever he has the ball. He’s talented as fuck but when the foul doesn’t get called it ends up just being a horrible shot attempt.

asap_lichai

8 | 3 days ago

First line kinda rules out the rest of the statement bud

Short-Recording587 | Magic

3 | 3 days ago

Post should have said: “last night, it looked like Brunson was looking to draw fouls first and foremost, score second and get his team involved third. Is that how he normally plays or was it a one off game”

asap_lichai

1 | 2 days ago

Fair enough. Not usually especially post new offensive scheme introduced by new coach. Team reverts to iso ball strategies whenever it’s lazy or scared.

DevotionToU

2 | 3 days ago

it was certainly true this game

AEW4LYFE | Magic

1 | 3 days ago

It looked like tired legs to me. 4th quarter he missed several shots off the front of the rim. I was scared watching him take them because I know how it usually goes.

Possible-Activity16 | Mavericks

10 | 3 days ago

Orlando played exactly how I wish more teams would against teams coming off a back to back jump them early be physical go to the rim. You gotta take advantage of scheduling, too many teams get stuck in spamming 3s and letting teams off

lil_thirdy | Magic

12 | 3 days ago

We finally were the one who gave belt to ass on national tv man. I used to pray for times like this

WAZZZZZZZAP | Magic

3 | 3 days ago

Brunson might be the biggest whiner in the league.

Forsaken_Flight6188 | Knicks

5 | 3 days ago

I knew we were gonna lose tonight based on how well Orlando matches up with us they have the size and length to give us problems none of the perimeter shots weren’t falling

DeathsIntent96 | Magic

2 | 3 days ago

B2B for the Knicks as well.

donkeyinparadise | Nets

4 | 3 days ago

Wagner in a mask is so hawt lol. Develop a jumper baby (and fix that ugly posture too lol). Excited for your future.

duckduckgo2100 | Magic

5 | 3 days ago

hes been shooting well from 3 at least, Around 36%. Need a mid ranger really.

radardog2 | Magic

2 | 3 days ago

He has a mid ranged shot he just barely uses it. He’s obsessed with analytics and efficiency so I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s why almost all of his shots come from inside the paint or the occasional open three.

duckduckgo2100 | Magic

1 | 3 days ago

yeah he needs to start using it more honestly. Doris Burke was glazing franz a lot and for good reason too. His game is very well rounded

kitemare | Magic

4 | 3 days ago

Bing bong play the song

StanVanGhandi | Magic

4 | 3 days ago

No one on here is crediting the defense. A lot of ref blaming but come on, the Magic played great defense.

Us old men complain about how NBA players don’t play defense. They don’t hustle. How much we want them to go back to an old school style.

What that looks like is the Magic. Come watch it if you can stomach it, I bet you bail.

gmbaker44

9 | 3 days ago

People complain about the refs bc Doris was complaining the entire game. Every time there was any amount of contact she would be like “wow a lot of contact no foul on the Magic.” When the Magic didn’t get a foul from contact it was crickets. The Magic had 23 fouls and Knicks had 25 fouls. The officiating was fine.

The whole broadcast was awful though. The Magic were up by 17 and Doris was glazing the Knicks non-stop. It would be nice if a national broadcast game didn’t sound like a local broadcast homer.

radardog2 | Magic

6 | 3 days ago

Thankfully I got to watch the David Steele and Jeff Turner broadcast.

RonnocFjord | Magic

4 | 3 days ago

The broadcast was pretty bad. IMO it seemed like they essentially only prepared for a Knicks blowout win so the entire team from production down didn’t know what to do when that wasn’t the result.

Short-Recording587 | Magic

2 | 3 days ago

Doris is awful. The best part about league pass is I can listen to local crews instead of the national ones. Way better in my opinion.

Artistic_Courage_851

2 | 3 days ago

is Mo Wagner ever going to play?

DevotionToU

14 | 3 days ago

He tore his acl in December I think it was so he likely won’t be back at least until January

VoidTyrant | Magic

6 | 3 days ago

Not till January most likely

Dometalican_90

5 | 3 days ago

Apparently, in January.

heat_fan_ | Raptors

-1 | 3 days ago

Embarrassing loss for the Knicks

Wagner, Bane, Black had great games

GrabbaGary | Knicks

22 | 3 days ago

Not that embarrassing lol second night of a back to back and Orlando is a good team

Either_Imagination_9 | Knicks

8 | 3 days ago

Bruh this shit ain’t nothing

tropic_gnome_hunter | Knicks

2 | 3 days ago

You’re trying way too hard

Forsaken_Flight6188 | Knicks

2 | 3 days ago

Second game of a back-to-back

axecalibur | CHI

0 | 3 days ago

1Brunson -20. Sit yo ass on the bench

Renegadeforever2024 | Raptors

1 | 3 days ago

Shocking

Riskybusiness622

1 | 3 days ago

Why Paulo only play 12min?

Citruspilled | Magic

4 | 3 days ago

Injured his groin

WAZZZZZZZAP | Magic

6 | 3 days ago

Injured early. Groin strain

KingWaterdripper | Knicks

-4 | 3 days ago

Eliminate back to backs games are much better when both teams are rested

Jaerba | DET

22 | 3 days ago

That didn’t seem to be an issue for you when you were trolling Pistons threads the other night with garbage post after garbage post.

KingWaterdripper | Knicks

-6 | 3 days ago

Going against the most physical team vs the wizards

A_Kumqwat | Pistons

10 | 3 days ago

Winning with no players vs Losing at full strength

Jaerba | DET

6 | 3 days ago

How many starters did the Knicks have tonight?

Duckney | Pistons

4 | 3 days ago

Brunson -20 ouch

PlatosLeftTit | Heat

-10 | 3 days ago

Magic gonna go on a run now that Paolo’s out. Franz is the better player and the offense will finally be run through him, as it should.

Aeronova20 | Magic

22 | 3 days ago

hate this

paolo has been a plus player this year, the magic are like 16 pts better with paolo on the floor than with him off the

Gamesgtd | Magic

12 | 3 days ago

Just ignorant dudes. We are a much worse team without Paolo. Why would we be better without an All Star level player

WAZZZZZZZAP | Magic

10 | 3 days ago

Yes last 7 games he’s been dishing it, getting to rim more, and cutting down on his midrange shots. Help defense has been improved as well

PlatosLeftTit | Heat

-13 | 3 days ago

He has but Franz is better and the issue is that the offense is still being run through Paolo, he’s getting the ball handling and playmaking duties which Franz is better suited for. They have the wrong guy playing second fiddle at the moment.

-FlapjacK- | Magic

12 | 3 days ago

Our starting lineup has the best net rating in the league shut up dude

PlatosLeftTit | Heat

-10 | 3 days ago

6-6 record because the ball is in the wrong dudes hand. You guys are gonna have an above .500 record in the no Paolo games because the actual best player will finally be running the offense yet people will still deny the obvious.

Kait0yashio | Magic

7 | 3 days ago

Nah we are 6-6 because tyus Jones is like -60 this year has nothing to do with Paolo, maybe the bulls game with his doghshit game winner attempt.

-FlapjacK- | Magic

4 | 3 days ago

Do you just not register what I said?

PlatosLeftTit | Heat

1 | 3 days ago

And I’m saying that it would be even better with Franz running things and Paolo playing second fiddle

MalcolmSupleX | Magic

-2 | 3 days ago

Franz is not better. 😂

Drewbacca_Hrrrgrgrar | Magic

4 | 3 days ago

Paolo should be the better player but he isn’t as consistent as Franz, if they both played their best games Paolo would be considered better.

PlatosLeftTit | Heat

2 | 3 days ago

Surely the last 3 seasons of Franz having better +/- numbers and Franz averaging 24/6/5 without Paolo aren’t real, like I said Y’all will go on a run now and Franz is gonna ball. Enjoy the Franchise Franz show baby

MalcolmSupleX | Magic

9 | 3 days ago

I don’t care about +/-. I watch the games.

Playful-Variation908 | Magic

3 | 3 days ago

Bro the narrative on Paolo is gonna be crazy if we go on a run without him, bunch of casual gonna act like he isnt a beast

PlatosLeftTit | Heat

-2 | 3 days ago

So do I. Which is why I guarantee Y’all are going to go on a run with Franz averaging big numbers.

Since you watch the games and think Paolo is better, you guys are 6-6 rn correct? Since Paolo is better you think the Magic will have a below .500 record in these upcoming no Paolo games right?

MalcolmSupleX | Magic

5 | 3 days ago

If you watch each Magic game, you can see how defenses approach Paolo and Franz differently. Franz often has stretches where he’s passive, while Paolo consistently draws more pressure because he can do things offensively that Franz can’t.

codelyoko_ | Magic

5 | 3 days ago

Franz averages “big” numbers without Paolo because there is no one to share the ball with

PlatosLeftTit | Heat

3 | 3 days ago

Franz should be the primary ballhandler and 1st option not Paolo. He’s shown he’s better than Paolo as the primary option. Paolo should be playing off of Franz and not the other way around, the team is better off when Franz is running things.

Few_Tap_2279

-3 | 3 days ago

It’s a little bit obvious that they are better without Banchero.

MalcolmSupleX | Magic

3 | 3 days ago

How is it obvious if you don’t watch?

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-5 | 3 days ago

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MalcolmSupleX | Magic

4 | 3 days ago

Oh yes they do.

codelyoko_ | Magic

4 | 3 days ago

Advanced stats can suck a fat one

Playful-Variation908 | Magic

4 | 3 days ago

Bro stop this pls

Trinidad34 | Super 8

-40 | 3 days ago

It’s unfortunate we were coming off a back to back to play an extremely dirty team. Only one loss though we’ll bounce back. Hope Brunson is ok was hoping we escaped with no injuries tonight

Drewbacca_Hrrrgrgrar | Magic

22 | 3 days ago

Cry

Low_Income4405 | Knicks

18 | 3 days ago

Nah the Magic ain’t dirty. They’re certainly very physical, and the refs blew some calls on both sides, but they ain’t dirty. If the refs are letting them play then all power to them. We kinda needed a punch in the mouth like this, some kinda poor competition over the last couple outside of the Wolves.

Trinidad34 | Super 8

-14 | 3 days ago

They’re considered really dirty

Low_Income4405 | Knicks

11 | 3 days ago

By who? Cole Anthony was dirty but hes gone. Physicality ≠ Dirty, we needed this type of opponent tbh

Trinidad34 | Super 8

-13 | 3 days ago

Idk they kinda throw a lot of elbows

Low_Income4405 | Knicks

16 | 3 days ago

Meh everyone does. That’s like half of KATs foul calls.

guideway4 | Magic

18 | 3 days ago

Dirty? Brother Brunson stood on WCJ’s foot, if you think that is dirty then I’m not sure you’ve ever seen anyone play basketball before

Trinidad34 | Super 8

-18 | 3 days ago

I’m also just referencing the fact that the magic are incredibly dirty. And they called a foul on wcj right? Idk how you’re blaming brunson

Drewbacca_Hrrrgrgrar | Magic

12 | 3 days ago

I guess in the new NBA playing defense is considered incredibly dirty.

Trinidad34 | Super 8

-6 | 3 days ago

😂 good joke man

PaoloMeatRider | Magic

12 | 3 days ago

Brunson had a clear path to the basket and ran into Wendell to foul bait lmfao

Gamesgtd | Magic

7 | 3 days ago

Hilarious considering Brunson literally just grabs dudes arms all the time and drags people by their jersey for no reason whatsoever

Trinidad34 | Super 8

-9 | 3 days ago

Brunsons like a top 10 player I don’t really know what you’re talking aboit

Gamesgtd | Magic

12 | 3 days ago

What does that have to do with him grabbing arms and grabbing jerseys

Trinidad34 | Super 8

1 | 3 days ago

Cause he’s just a great scorer.

Gamesgtd | Magic

9 | 3 days ago

I’m sure a lot of dudes would love to be able to get away with grabbing peoples jerseys when they don’t need to in order to get open.

Trinidad34 | Super 8

0 | 3 days ago

I’m talking about Jalen Brunson not your general nba player

DeathsIntent96 | Magic

6 | 3 days ago

extremely dirty

Lmao. There were tears in your eyes when you posted this.

Trinidad34 | Super 8

-2 | 3 days ago

Brunson in a walking boot and probably going to be out for awhile. But I guess I’m wrong idk

DeathsIntent96 | Magic

7 | 3 days ago

There’s a reason everybody’s laughing at you for saying Brunson stepping on WCJ’s foot was a dirty play.

Trinidad34 | Super 8

-1 | 3 days ago

Yeah cause they hate the Knicks

DeathsIntent96 | Magic

1 | 3 days ago

Hope you have a good weekend coming up homie.

The_MadStork | NYK

-16 | 3 days ago

This subreddit hates the Knicks, but the Magic got away with some questionable stuff and the game was very poorly officiated. That said, the Knicks were flat tonight and got outplayed.

The Orlando Magic (6-6) defeat the New York Knicks (7-4), 124-107.