It’s crazy after the Warriors game people here were claiming that the Jokic was washed beyond belief and the Nuggets championship window was closed instead of the more plausible explanation that he just had a bad game lol

The pelicans, kings, jazz, and suns are all going to have a really rough year.

At least he’s doing it the proper way by being in the game and not skipping games to “load manage”

Funny, this was a feather in SGAs cap last year. “So dominant he’s sitting so many 4th quarters.”

Now Jokic “May not be mvp” because of it? We are 5 games into an 82 game season and he is still handily the bitw.

Only team I’ve seen so shallow in depth that they went 3 straight seasons of having the starting center’s backup be the starting power forward

He just scolded the press for saying it’s “effortless.”

Damn, safe travels home for Jokic jumpshot 🙏

You pretty much nailed it. Hes gotta let the other guys gel first before we get monster performances in a few months. His job right now is to refund rebound and initiate the offense, let the other guys score.

“So much more aggressive playing the passing lanes.”

Guy who was number 2 in the league in steals last year, and NUMBER ONE over the last 5 years. People dont watch him play, he’s an actively very impactful defender by every metric but rim protection.

“Rim protection is the most important center skill.” If that were true he wouldn’t be leading the all-time +/- and swing peak of all time. If he were a bad defender, he wouldn’t win his minutes by such a GIGANTIC gap. These narratives are nonsense, and from people who despise hes the BITW, by a margin.

he has been so much more aggressive playing the passing lanes

I remember a clip of him last yead running back in transition and he jumped with his hands in the air trying to anticipate a pass while looking in the other direction. He didn’t end up intercepting any because no pass was made but damn it would’ve been crazy to see.

He’s not even top 40 in points per game so I guess not

Plot twist, AG gets an allstar and a team high in scoring

I just hope he gets a lot of games where he can just sit the 4th. It would make his stats go down. His minutes being close to 32 per game this season would be amazing.

He had 34 last year, record is 42 (Westbrook). I hope he beats it.

By most, did you mean 82 TDs in a season?

Because they’re insecure that Jokic surpassed Giannis both in their current stature and historical rankings.

I get it - 76ers fans had to eventually abandon the Embiid argument because the guy just kept missing games and disappointing in the playoffs.

Some OKC fans realize that SGA needs more time and accolades before he can definitively be considered better than Jokic.

Whereas Giannis is the only active player in their prime with a resume close to Jokic’s, but he hasn’t won any MVPs since 2021 nor has he won a playoff series since 2022.

Giannis continues to dominate when he’s healthy and I absolutely consider him the second best player in the NBA, but there’s no legitimate argument for him to above Jokic.

Yep, I saw that thread lol. I left a comment in that thread, asking why do they have to constantly mention Jokic? Can’t they celebrate Giannis without hating on Jokic?

Like…I initially visited that thread to drop a compliment regarding Giannis carrying his team.

Your average Nuggets fan simply does not care about Giannis or the Bucks. It’s not a slight, we just don’t see any reason to hate on Giannis.

The annoying part is the subset of Bucks fans who refuse to understand why the media places Jokic on a higher pedestal. He’s won more series in a tougher conference, hasn’t been injured ²⁄₃ of the last playoffs, has been a game away from the WCF in the last 2 years. Put simply; he’s been more successful.

It’s not hard to understand why the media might view one more favourably. And this is not me hating, the media will eventually turn on Jokic for lack of success as well.

Giannis had an obscenely short run of “credit” with how dominant he is.

There’s a dissonance between the discourse on these two though. For Giannis, it’s been a sort of indifference ever since Steph won the 2022 title and snatched the proverbial “BITW” chain, which then Jokic took and Giannis, before this season never really could seem to get a solid foot into the discussion. Even though he’s been an absolute monster performer every single year.

For Jokic it’s been a sporadic swing of the pendulum to the other extreme, there’s been incessant glazing for 90% of a season, and then outright unjustified hate for the remaining. This year is the first time it’s starting out this way though. I couldn’t tell you which is worse, indifference to greatness and monster output, or trying to negate obvious greatness. I’m a Nuggets and Jok fan, so I can only speak to one side, and I’m just looking on smugly because I know the dude is just chilling, trying to build chemistry. I think the indifference Giannis got for the past few years is worse to deal with as a fan, maybe some Bucks/Giannis fans can lay it out better.

Ironically, Giannis so far has been looking like the best player this season, with Wemby in second and Jokic third.

idk, it looks like shai, luka, giannis, jokic, and wemby are all gonna have astronomical seasons. with jokic in good position to play more as a playmaker than scorer and without as much burden on his shoulders, he could slip out of top 3 mvp voting but have more in the tank for the playoffs

Chasing steph is hard on anyone

That comment from Shai can be interpreted that way. But i think he ment that he holds himself to such a high standard that he should score more than 30 points per game. That it was a bad game from him. Not that he doesnt care they won.

Yes 42

Jokic averaged a TD last season despite getting a TD “only” 34 times

Yep, I saw virtually no spurs fans on that ludicrous thread. But the usual suspects? ALWAYS bucks fans leading charge with an obnoxious, insufferable heaping of okc fans now too. 

Sixers fans used to be in lockstep with bucks fan but have taken a beat cos Joel had probkems so they’ve kind of laid off. 

We spurs fans are usually quite complimentary of Jokic lol. Partly cos some of us dont really like okc fans from all the Chet Wemby discourse in the past

It’s so strange to me too because the people bashing Jokic are all fans of players I enjoy watching, but they are bashing Jokic to try and make that player seem better. It’s never the players fault that they have these kind of fans so I straight up cannot understand the mentality of these fans hating on a player specifically due to the fans they have.

I enjoy watching basketball because there’s so many different ways a players play style can impact the game. That’s why I enjoy watching Giannis, Embiid, SGA, Donic, etc. because I want to see how teams will gameplan around them and also how those players will perform based off that. Social media has turned the NBA (and maybe all sports, and life in general) into something way more toxic than it needs to be. People forgot how to enjoy and love things without hating on something else to make their thing seem better. I could do this rant all day.

It’s a tired and true story. Build a player just so you can tear him down. If Jokic is still the best player in the world, he won’t be for long. Wemby is ridiculous and is gonna dominate this league for a long time. It’s unfortunate that people feel the need to tear down elite players just to make the case for their guy

Russ and Big O have each done 4 straight as well

These 3 seasons are the only examples of 3+ consecutive triple doubles to start, and they all reached 4, which I think is causing some confusion

Edit link is super slow to load for some reason so here’s games list for both of them

Big O

Russ