[Inside The NBA] Charles Barkley: “In my day, when a coach criticized you it was called good coaching. When people criticize players today it’s called hating.”
Constructive criticism and just being an asshole are not the same thing.
Though he is correct that many people do struggle to accept constructive criticism.
Cam Thomas lashing out at - Zach Lowe, of all people, Zach, who is widely respected - for putting a really good constructive feedback on his game. He didn’t even criticize him, but said something in the lines of his style is not translating into a winning basketball in a team environment.
It’s worse. Zach was kinda defending him, he was just reporting what others thought about him while being very “both sides-y” in terms of not taking a stance himself
Zach is so wishy washy and at pains to be nice it was completely out of hand.
Can’t believe they canned Zach and kept Perk.
Honestly, it was a great outcome. ESPN sucks, so who cares if Perk is bad. Zach now gets to do basically whatever he wants at the ringer, which is positive for him and us.
I’m sure he misses the ESPN bag, but for sure working for his friend Bill is probably 100x better than working under a huge corp
Why take a Zach when you can have a Perk?
They want engagement and trying to give things a fair shake doesn’t rile people up (“wishy washy”).
Yeah, but Perk?
If Cam could show evidence to the contrary, by all means show it lol
He is going to win the team, the lottery.
He lashed out at Zach Lowe saying league consensus about Cam was he’s a ball hog.
If he had actually listened to what Lowe himself said about him to refute the consensus; he probably wouldn’t have been mad. But who clicks on links and not just retweets lol.
I would also say that Barkley and a lot of people from his era are very poor at understanding what is constructive criticism and what is just hating
there is a reason he was arrested 2-4 times, or maybe 6 times. He can’t even remember.
He was just giving that guy in the bar constructive criticism through the window.
Also, a coach giving feedback privately is very different from a pundit criticizing for content.
Are you implying people from this gen are better at understanding that type of thing lmao
I don’t think that’s what they were saying, but it might be true. Fewer players publicly lash out at coaches now than they did in the past. Just in general, there is no one now who publicly throws fits as often as Barkley did.
The difference is, Barkley gets paid well and wins award for being aggressively ignorant on most topics he speaks about because he’s funny.
He’s literally doing “back in my day” unironically. I personally don’t find him funny but the dude gets a lot of likes.
Back in my day, i tied an onion to my belt… which was the style at the time
My wife and I say this all the time lol
Give me five bees for a quarter you’d say
Also, Barkley didn’t have the entire internet to worry about when he played.
They had radio and tv broadcasts with a handful of channels and monthly or bi-monthly magazines and newspapers…stuff that’s a lot easier to ignore.
My only thing is if you’re willing to dish it. Please be able to take it too. When is only one way. Often times, that’s how any relationship decay over time.
Case in point the criticism he gets from Shaq about not winning rings versus Shaq having rings.
Yep meanwhile asshole coaches: Luke and Byron. Luke might have had an affable personality, but when you’re making shit up to criticize players, its just performative nonsense.
I’m pretty tired of all these old people in sports or otherwise acting like this shit is new. I’m not that young I’ve seen the shit.
People always have sucked at taking criticism, people had always had there faces buried in news papers or magazines we just do it with phones now.
People have always been dumb as fuck we just see everyone’s stupid ass thoughts on writing now.
Not everything is new but you’re fucking insane if you think people used to spend as much time staring at newspapers as they do phones today.
Sports talk radio was huge when Barkley was playing.
but most people only listened to sports radio while driving to work
young people are looking at their phones way longer each day than commute drives
Not until the end of his career. It wasn’t popular in the 80’s and early 90’s outside of a few major cities. Like WIP in Philly existed in the late 80’s but really started to pick up a ton of steam in the mid 90’s. The Big Show in Boston only started in 1995 and really drove fans to WEEI.
None of these were like having Reddit of course.
Huh, Barkley is so old
He should tell us how nicknaming a player “street clothes” is just criticism. Dudes get defensive because it’s not just criticism it’s making jokes at their expense and getting everyone to large audiences to go along with it.
Chuck isnt a coach
He doesn’t provide constructive criticism either. He’s just a hater/negative ninny
e: As a NBA TV entertainer, criticism occasionally is fine, criticisim where appropriate is needed. But he is also supposed to enable viewers to enjoy the game. His one-sided/continual and unnuanced tear down of today’s game and players means he is just a negative ninny. He may like to provide cover for his criticism by saying players call any criticism hating. But that doesn’t exculpate him
He’s not a coach
provide constructive criticism to who. he’s not coaching a team
Yeah, while I think people are often too quick to label constructive criticism as hating, I’ve also found that the majority of people I’ve met in my life whose self-concept revolves around being someone “who just tells it like it is” are actually assholes who don’t realize that you can, in fact, be tactful without being disingenuous.
From my experience people who are actually just brutally honest or blunt tend to not make it their whole personality and they’re also equally upfront when it’s time to say something nice
I just think people just dont want to hear they are wrong, you can lie to people all their lives to make them happy and the one moment you try to be blunt with them they get flipping pissed that youre a hater
Sir Charles being one of them
He’s also making a bad comparison. Your coach criticizing you is one thing and that’s great, a random talking head shitting on you is not nearly the same thing at all.
Is Barkley comparing himself calling players “bus riders” to coaches constructively criticizing their players?
Yeah… back in the day, coaches criticized players in huddles or practice, not in press conferences.
Comparing that criticism to any criticism (the internet if just filled with critics all over the place) is simply a false analogy.
Criticism on that Nazi’s social media site or on some random blog isn’t criticism. It’s hating.
What? Of course they criticized players to the media.
uh just go to youtube and look up Jim Mora’s press conferences compilation
bc why would i listen to some other dumbass criticizing me when i can just listen to myself
Because you don’t know shit, you just think you do
i know every goddamn thing
Apt.
Criticism is just criticism. How you process it makes it constructive or destructive
Definitely, I also think a we also often omit context in some criticism is that we do not know what the coach has asked them to do, we see the outcome and criticize the player with the benefits of replay so small mistakes seem much more glaring.
Which I’ll admit, I fall into as well with my online rants about players lol.
I agree. I also hate coaches like Calipari or Dan Hurley who think anyone who criticizes them being a dick are just “soft”
You can also help yourself by taking a stoic position on intaking information. That’s what I try to do. I just take the info from the speech, and leave the rest. It really is jarring for the other person which can be disabling in a heated discussion, if you will.
And at the same time amazing in good discussions, as it forces you to critically think about the information you’re receiving from the conversation.
You’ve clearly never been coached before, there is both lol
Yeah, because NBA players famously took criticism very well up until recently.
I think Barkley really believes no one actually remembers the 90s besides highlights.
And he’s probably right
I read somewhere last year that 80% of the demographics that watches NBA now were born in the 90s or later. If that’s true then yeah you can say anything about the 90s and that 80% would simply believe it lol
Every time I see Shaq talk about load management I’m like do you think none of us remember the i got hurt on company quote
Barkley in his prime tried to go to Portland.
What i want is some one to start calling them out on their bullshit
Suddenly, I’m old
Funny thing is, some coaches then really were haters. Larry Brown at the end. Karl. Sloan had his moments.
Michael “Mike” Malone is the only recent coach I can think of with real animosity and that was with the GM. Oh, maybe Kerr. Thibs seems like he should beef but he never did.
I’m pretty sure thibs has beef with subbing out players.
From what I understand, Barkley didn’t take criticism that well until Moses Malone straight up called him fat and lazy but said he’d help him out.
Spreewell has entered the chat
You want to be choked or not?
Is that extra?
Of course it is, mans got a family to feed
Lmao
Yes daddy
What do you expect?! He had to feed his family
Iverson/Carmelo/Westbrook/etc. also enter the chat
If only players could be as open to constructive criticism from their coaches as Latrell Sprewell.
Barkley was raked over the coals by the press. When he did the “ I am not a role model” commercial, people were talking about it for moths and reporters said he was just excusing his bad actions. When he got into a bar fight, it was national news and followed him for years. We heard constantly about his failure to win a title, especially when he went to Phoenix. The criticism players get today is mild. Reporters risk losing access if they say anything critical of a star player,.
Barkley got criticism for being a loser and brig a violent drunk n a shitty example to kids watching .
Lebron gets criticised for eating fruit on the bench or not cheering hard enough or cheering too hard n making it about himself.
One is worthy of criticism one isn’t
LeBron gets hate and criticism both in heaping quantities. The only real beef I have with the guy could easily apply to almost every star in the NBA today. They soft as fuck. My back hurts better sit out this really important playoff game. Getting $30mil/yr + to miss 30 games is the wildest shit I’ve ever seen.
Name me a player without genuine injury who sat out a playoff game. We just saw Haliburton tear his Achilles because he chose to play in a game 7, which he should not have been playing. Again name one player?
Never happens. The closest thing I can think of is Dirk in 2003 when he left the playoffs with a knee injury. He was cleared to play again but the team decided to keep him out. I remember him getting a decent amount of unfair criticism at the time for it and it fueled the “soft” European label BS.
Any player? Also define genuine injury. Jimmy Butler sat out two games last season during playoffs for a bruised ass. I didn’t say they don’t get injured. There were like 4-5 torn ACLs last year that probably ended teams playoff runs on the spot.
The average games missed in the 23-24 season was about 24 and the league literally had to implement policies to stop players from missing too many games for non-injury reasons.
Tell me how fucking tough these candy asses are when the league has to REQUIRE them to play in 65 games to be eligible for player awards. That’s 80%. That’s fucking sad. The obvious shoutout for being the #biggestchickenshitinthenba has to be Simmons. Homeboy played in ~56% of his regular season games at the Nets. How was he compensated for this you ask? $180,000,000.
This is exactly my issue. Instead of calling out the person who did the thing you disagree with, you claim it is only this generation of players who have done stuff like this. It’s either you don’t know who the likes of Shawn kemp, eddy curry, Vin baker who did exactly the same thing Simmons did, or you are just lying.
Notice how u/CelosPOE hasn’t responded.
I apologize for not living on Reddit so that I defend my toilet time dissertations. My bad homie. My bad.
This is how they just make up stuff. When you actually look at the so-called load managing that the likes of SAS have blown out of proportion. The only guys that really abused it were Kawhi and Ben Simmons. We know that Kawhi has a degenerative knee issue, and Simmons issue is rather serious if he refused to sign a contract this off-season. Instead of actually doing journalism and finding out what was going on in the team. They would rather make up narratives. I can not wait for one idiot to claim that Haliburton and Tatum were load managing this season, which is why they didn’t play🤣🤣🤣.
The fact that you think load management is a thing that players should even be contemplating means we will never agree on this topic. Load management…what a limp dick thing to even say when you make 8 figures to play 246 hours of actual competition.
“Sorry boss man, we work 82 days a year, for about an eighth of a day at a time and I just really want to be ready for the one after next because my momma raised an actual bitch.” That’s how the conversation with the coach/GM goes in my head.
I don’t know why you’d think anyone would call torn ACL load management.
It’s quite funny that they do it in baseball, and soccer Teo team sports that have the same long type of seasons as the nba and nobody talks about it. But when it comes to the nba, for some reason, people with an agenda act like the world is ending.
Charles Barkley the Player and Charles Barkley the Commentator would have fucking despised one another.
They wouldve come to friendly terms over a healthy amount of dominos
Ehhh. Yes if it’s not constructive and meant to genuinely illicit an improvement. then yes it’s hating
And tv personalities are entertainers in this eco system. They are not coming from a good place (mostly) so yes it’s hating
If you can’t instruct me on the game and discuss it in a way that shows you enjoy it and it’s entertaining, i guess just shitting on everything for clickbait is a way to make a living too!
I’m gonna keep changing rhe channel during halftime though when I see the Inside the NBA guys.
Lmao Chuck goes 0-5 every time they do their “Who he Play For?” segment. They have no idea what’s going on in the league, are known to not watch the games, and have the gall to say their criticism is constructive.
Ah yes the all magical criticism that doesn’t differ between players or situations and doesn’t take place on a spectrum of constructive to unconstructive.
What, your boss can criticize you but if I call you a fucking bum in the lunch room all of a sudden it’s toxic? People these days, smh.
Coaches actually watch games and 1000s of hours of tape before criticizing players tho.
These dudes don’t even watch the game they’re commenting on.
Shaq is brags about how little he actually knows about the NBA on the show.
Bro doesn’t even know how many teams are in the NBA
Different coaching styles work for different players might work for some horrible for others
Saying it faced to face behind closed doors is better than a room full of media
this is wat i didnt get about all the spo comments about kelel ware posts that circulated on here during the offseason. they were fking mild as fk and ware fully accepted them
ppl were acting like spo publicly castrated ware or something lol
Which comments
I want to say it was something about him being focused on winning plays and not stats along with improving his consistency and professionalism. Nothing in the message jumped out as hating, but the internet was like pearl clutching level of how could Spo do this!
Like kept to the facts, no dropping hints at something more, and stable delivery, it was maybe more honest than average but like it wasn’t dramatic.
Heat Culture is when you turn everyone into eunuchs
There’s a reason why coaches like Bob Knight aren’t around anymore.
Generations change, times change, the world moves forward. Doesn’t mean it’s “worse” now.
Coaches now coach individual players that respond to different styles differently to get the most out of them.
How is this a bad thing?
I’m glad coaches like Bob Knight aren’t around anymore.
It goes both ways and it extends beyond basketball. I grew up in the 80s and 90s and coaches, teachers and even parents straddled the line between tough love and abuse and sometimes crossed it unfortunately. Bob Knight was celebrated and some toxic shit went on that also contributed to hazing and bullying culture indirectly. However, there really was a much stronger emphasis on being resilient, not quitting, and figuring problems out without as much help. When I got into the workplace it was a similar situation.
Bosses were demanding and expected you to bust your ass. Staying late was not abnormal and taking a lot of sick days etc was looked down on. Some managers were out right toxic pieces of shit. By the time I got to a higher position where I had some folks training under me, I did my best to be as empathetic and not emulate those toxic mofos. However, something really shifted in the Gen X parenting and Gen Z kids, unfortunately in my opinion, have come up a little too coddled and entitled. I really more blame their parents and the system, but it can be hard to work with a lot of them because they treat work like a C student just trying to pass a class so they can go have fun. And they shut down pretty quick at any hint of “tough love”. Some, not all. But the ones that are serious really stand out as stars.
I get the number of unfair factors against them, like growing up in the social media culture where you have 100 distractions and insecurities in your face at all times. Growing up in a shittier economic climate where there is less incentive to work hard because it’s so hard to became financially comfortable let alone wealthy. Corporations that have devalued young labor and are now attempting to replace entry level jobs with AI bullshit. The school system has be defunded and students have been dehumanized and disempowered.
But, nonetheless I’ve seen both ends of it and Gen Z are frankly mentally much less resilient and much worse at taking initiative on average than past generations. And you do see it with athletes now where they are more entitled and get their feelings deeply hurt by criticism instead of taking the challenge to just work harder and learn more.
I’m in the film industry and even 30 year olds will talk about how hard it is to work with 23 year olds now.
This is not just me saying this. Workplace managers will say it in much harsher terms:
https://fortune.com/article/how-to-work-with-gen-z-vs-millennials-work-ethic-employees-workplace-recent-grads/
I have a friend who is an adjunct professor at the university we attended. The school is more exclusive than when we attended and requires a higher GPA and SAT scores. And yet in her journalism courses the kids do much less work than she did. 1⁄3 of the kids claim a mental health issue that allows them to turn in papers late. Most of the kids don’t hand assignments in on time. They’re unmotivated and un-empowered. The University told her not to grade by her old standard or they’d have to literally fail half of the class. A lot of this probably has to do with covid, but it’s just shocking how little these kids try apparently.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/richardvedder/2021/05/06/falling-college-academic-standards-new-evidence/
Well said, thanks for sharing
Well put and couldn’t agree more, except perhaps not really buying the COVID excuse. I think a lot of it is societal like you mentioned before. And there’s probably a bit of a counter culture going on to the old school hard ass vibes of yesteryear. People are very much more in their feels nowadays and take any slightly perceived injustice extremely seriously.
In some ways I guess it’s good as I do feel things that were “untouchable powers” like big corps have a bit more pressure to not do anything unseemly due to public outrage…. but at the same time I think it’s become a bit too sensitive. It seems like people go out of their way to get upset nowadays and everyone thinks they’re the main character more than in the past
Yeah I’m 34. The kids 18-23? Who come in to youth work are so weird and quite . I was an introvert and even k was louder at their age then they are. I thought they were rude at first but realised they are all not confident and good at socialising , they all are so afraid to do anything at times. No taking initiative. It’s kinda crazy phones cookrd them
Love Chuck but it may be time to hang it up if we’re using this super stale take
Barkley was well known in his career for responding well to tough love and hard coaching.
Why look there’s a perfectly intact plate glass window behind you.
The average age and demographic of this sub is REALLY showing in this thread haha
Literally my first thought reading the comments
Who calls is hating? Who says that? What player has said “a coach is hating on me”
Just going to make my point by emphasizing certain parts of the statement:
“In my day, when a coach criticized you, it was called good coaching. When people [i.e. fucking internet weirdos] criticize players today, it’s called hating.”
“In my day”
literally every quote from retired players starts like this
every quote from boomers
I mean nah; we have more balance now with nbc and amazon; plus no more ridiculousness of SAS criticizing hating on Bob Myers with Perk on the side.
Wow these replies just back Chuck up, the zoomers ARE soft
Nah it’s coaching, he shouldn’t be so soft
Chuck can’t take criticism, just wants to sit in his safe space without receiving any feedback. Old heads are the most charmin people around. All they want to do is shit on people, and flip out and call people disrespectful when they get it dished back.
I’ll give Chuck a pass cause he can actually take it as much as he gives. The hater DNA is more coded in Shaq. There’s no constructive criticism often in his comments “boom boom dominate” lol
Yeah the newer generation is the soft ones. Totally not the older generations who whine about everything and are afraid of change
30 years from now some player from this era will be saying the same shit. Why can’t these guys just talk about basketball.
They haven’t been watching the games and don’t understand modern day basketball, probably.
Not even probably. Candace Parker had to explain to Shaq how modern NBA offenses work.
I think I missed something, what team does Chuck coach for?
Soft
The coach criticizes privately
“People” criticize by hating
A “coach” is not the same as “people,” Chuck… (though I’m sure a lot of players do struggle with constructive criticism from coaches too)
“You” are not a coach!
Here we go with the back in the day shit
Side question: how is the crew in espn? Is it the same as TNT or it got worse because espn messed it up?
It’s the same. It’s fun basketball themed entertainment, just don’t expect anything informational regarding modern basketball.
This sentence in itself makes no sense. “Before, when coaches criticised it was good coaching. Now, when people other than coaching criticise, it’s hating”.
Those 2 are just not comparable
Coach vs people hmm
The problem is the people criticizing the teams are Charles Barkley and Shaquille O Neal, and those guys hardly watch the games and hardly know the players and just have their own old school biases. Meanwhile I’d just like to listen to someone enjoy some fucking basketball
There is a big difference between a coach and “people”
If chuck wanted his point to land he should’ve said
“In my day, when a coach criticized you it was called good coaching, but today when a coach criticizes you it’s called hating”
He wouldn’t say this because 99% of players don’t mind when a coach criticizes a player.
The people in the media including chuck and Shaq really are hating. They provide insults with no substance nor data to prove it’s actually criticism.
Keep Deflecting Chuck!
He himself noted the difference. There is a difference when a COACH criticizes you, and when some random ass who is one of the PEOPLE criticizes you.
“When a coach”
“When people”
Which are you, Chuck?
Source: a hater
Oldheads man
I mean he’s not wrong, even if it’s an oldhead take.
Inside the NBA has been hating on players for a long ass time. Shaq has never coached anyone, but he’ll happily call every center dogshit because his ego is fragile.
Coaches still criticize players all the time, it’s their job. Idk what point Chuck was making at all.
Chuck , Shaq etc tend to be very negative. At some level he is saying players are overly sensitive, at another level, subliminally or otherwise, he’s providing cover for himself to continue criticizing.
That’s two different things.
Depends on the approach, if it is constructive, than is coaching but if it just criticising without how to improve than it is hating.
Who are these players that call their coaches haters? I’ve never heard a player say “yea coach is just hating my game”
Ozempic Chuck looks like a whole new guy
These bums😭
Coach vs people. Huge difference
Whatever era or day this was, it’s where it’s the most entertaining to me. Jim Mora
https://youtu.be/Gn99zFRqyDk?si=mCmrH2KI3qhxTYrZ
Barley needs to get more fitted suits. Can’t be that rich and still wearing old baggy suits
reddit in a nutshell
Haters gonna hate tho
People? Or their coach? Huge difference.
You wanna know hating Chuck? Just look across your side at Shaq and how he kept on grilling Javale McGee even without prodding and you’ll see hating.
Damn how did he hear about Real Madrid’s situation??
This is a pretty universal thing. People from previous generations are used to, and accepted, being spoken to in a much worse manner by authority figures than any young person today. The corporate world went through it the same way sports did.
I would call that progress, but old people aren’t being dramatic when they talk about that stuff.
I swear on my life I am not lying or overexagerating. I remember it like it was yesterday and I’m sure it’s on YouTube somewhere. I should actually look now that I’m thinking about it.
There was a Lakers game, it had to be 2010⁄11. There was a game were Kobe scored like 20 in the 3rd quarter, on like 7⁄11 shooting. Something very impressive and very efficient. And then the game got away from LA and they got blown out, I think.
In the post game presser, Phil Jackson just flat out told reporters “Kobe ruined the game. I told him at halftime we needed to get the rest of the team involved, and he decided to do it himself and deflate the team. So go ask Kobe what happened.”
And I know people like to paint Kobe as petulant or everything people say about him is myth making or some BS, but I promise you, it was a complete non issue. Everyone, including Kobe, just moved on.
In what stratosphere could a coach say something like that to the media right now? And in what stratosphere would a player just take it in stride like Kobe did?
The ageism is telling
The spooky decorations in the background is just so funny
The truth right here.
This is a mf fact. A lot of people under 22 it seems like any degree of even slightly harsh criticism is written off that way. We gave people participation awards and it went to their head. If your knees are healthy and you feel good, you should be willing to hear it straight.
It can sometimes be hard to tell what criticism is constructive and what isn’t constructive, but he isn’t wrong that people seem to be leaning more towards a blanket ‘reject all criticism’ mindset.
And that certainly does making coaching a pain.
Which is pretty stupid, but here we are. Society at large, at times, can be very poor at any type of nuanced understanding of something and social media seems to amplify that tendency on a fair number of issues.
Suppose it’s only natural that would result in a different mindset for people who grew up with it.
People in older generations got a bit too much of the metaphorical stick, I reckon, and there does seem to have been a bit of an overcorrection in the other direction. Wonder if people will try to correct again and end up overcorrecting again. We’ll see.
ESPN really monopolized the “back in my day” talk
Critique privately, praise publicly.
Prime>
This is days of face filtered, video staged, lines AI scripted.
Chuck trying to make a serious point and they pull to the wide shot with Shaq wearing a broccoli.
”…and you a fat butt.”
Lots of hating here, I see.
see the difference between criticism and hating is that criticism is actually intended to help people
he’s not wrong
and to a larger point, hyperbole is the rule
if you criticize, you’re “hating”
if you compliment , you’re “glazing” or “d**k riding”
Did he lose weight?
The difference between coaching and hating is the difference of the cholesterol levels between the two individuals.
no one is gonna take being called a bum as criticism and not hate lmfao.
Love Barkley… he a real one
He is totally right, you know.
Western society went soft, simple as it is. And this kind of complacency and immaturity are already showing its flaws, social media became the worst disease ever since the spanish flu, covid played second fiddle compared to these hellholes of stupidity
Alperen Sengun barely knew English and the first things he told his coaches is he likes to be yelled at and coached hard similar to what he is used to in Europe.
Still baffles me that people were upset this crap might be gone
Why did he specify coach in the his day part and today it’s just people?
These bums be driving me crazy too Chuck
Except you ain’t a coach, Charles.
If it’s actually pointers on what and how to work on your game and what a team needs to improve on to compete for a championship then obviously that’s fine. If you’re just gonna bitch and moan about modern players “being too soft” or about how much harder players had it back in the day then it’s just condescending and unhelpful
No, Chuck. Things are the way they’ve always been.
If your coach on your team criticizes you and says you need to do better, that’s good coaching.
If some cunt at a desk at TNT is criticizing you, it isn’t “good coaching”. It’s not even coaching. It’s hating, plain and simple.
Chuck has zero self-awareness. He’s the biggest hater on the panel, and that includes Shaq.
Criticism and hating are two very different things, and you also aren’t anyone’s coach, Chuck
Yeah, but I think he was using coaching as an example or a metaphor in relation to criticism.
But even if he wasn’t, he’s right, because players today young and old, from HS to PRO don’t like being called out… FOR ANYTHING-ON/OFF COURT…
My two little brothers had promising college careers and the better, more talented one just have to and walked off cause he couldn’t put wouldn’t deal with being told he was lacking at his craft and he needed to stop sagging and carrying his pants and wear a belt.
A lot of thin skinned athletes out here because they came up with their parents getting in the coaches faces for doing they job. Then they end up carrying that with them. And eventually gets called hating. We’re quick to do that today. Very quick
Yeah no I don’t agree with you making generalizations for an entire generation based on anecdotal evidence of one person who happens to be your brother. I happen to be the coach of a high level club volleyball team full of high school seniors who will be playing on college teams next year. I criticize them every single day I see them because I want them to know what they need to work on to maximize their talent as players, and they thank me for it. In fact, a lot of them tell me they prefer when I’m yelling and being tough on them as opposed to when I’m being nice. There are plenty of young athletes who are similar to my players who exist in this generation, and there are plenty of athletes who were similar to your brother who existed in previous generations.
The “criticizing” Chuck is talking about here is nothing like that at all. Chuck, and other former players in the media, hate on players because they don’t watch the games and having bold hot takes about players generates clicks for their employers, especially when they’re negative. I imagine jealousy plays a factor in it as well. They don’t criticize these guys at all for the same reason that I, or any other coach criticizes their own players.
It was generalized for simplicity’s sake. That’s all… But If you want to find articles written about this or find people to talk to about this topic. You’ll find it, the info is out there. Have you not noticed when it happens in the NBA in past seasons?
So true. Youngins here don’t get this.
Soft as baby 💩
Let this team go. Bad for the league
Gotta keep them around for the 1 or 2 good jokes they tell a year. Most of it is trash but the few bits of gold you get are legendary.
chuck officially in his old geezer stage
Old heads back at it again