He must’ve lost his voice from the pod casting marathon he went on smh

Zeke Zawoluk is the best player with those initials. One could say, he’s the ZZ Top.

I want you all to tell me who is the Goat of the 3rd quarter. Who over the years was the man you knew would suck 1st, 2nd and 4th but was gonna kill it after the mid game dump until he got tired.

Very well - I think the clear choices for AA is Arron Afflalo or Alvan Adams.

Other relevant guys I saw were Al-Fariq Aminu, Alan Anderson, and Alexis Ajinca.

Let the 676 day effort begin!

There would be some very obscure players and basketball knowledge in this idea! I kinda love it.

There are no updates on that so here we are

Discuss what? The nothing reported?

if there are any updates on him i’d actually love to hear them

No he mentioned the Kobe agenda.

One of my personal criticisms of the coverage of the nba is the lack of real analysis of the game of basketball. No it may not be as complex as football (American) it’s still a game that will always be dominated by IQ. Adam Silver calling his own Professional league nothing more than a game of “highlights” is beyond disingenuous. This has a trickle down effect to AAU and furthers the toxic culture that exists one in which individuality is put over team success. It waters down the product because no matter what the NBA is the ultimate goal and to oversimplify the game in that matter is insane. I’m not taking shots at current and future generations for having access to be more skilled. I’m saying Adam Silver undermined the game because if you actually watched the game of basketball you’ll know that it’s so much more than a reel of highlights, no matter the level of competition. We just had a very fun NBA season and two Small Market ‘TEAMS’ were in the NBA Finals that were very evenly matched up for the most part with 2 young emerging stars. This was one of the perceived hopeful goals over the past few CBAs, not having superstar teams. It’s just short sided on Adam’s behalf. Basketball is a fun team sport. Obviously highlighted by individualistic success but it’s more than “just a game of highlights”

lets have another thread about Steve Ballmer being the richest owner in sports

Trust me you don’t wanna know

I saw a video of him talking about the Kirk assassination recently, on r/nbacirclejerk . Idk if it got posted here.

A bench player is asking to be a starter lmao. It’s all kuminga 

I was referring to his situation, not him actively holding it up.

He gives up a lot more easy buckets than his sub 50% EFG% gets. Cant shoot free throws. Turnstile on defense. Serial ball watcher. Doesn’t attack for boards.

Every Kuminga Stan on here doesn’t watch his game. They watch his occasional highlights.

The ret-conning on Kerr is getting ridiculous. Kerr didn’t “cut Kuminga from the rotation.” Kuminga was injured for two months at a point when he was playing useful rotation minutes. He was averaging around 30 minutes a game prior to the injury. When he came back he was nowhere close to 100 percent and was tentative when he played for the next two months. And he still played close to 20 minutes a game in that time period. GS was in “get to the playoffs mode” and there was no way to let him reintigrate more at reduced speed while at the same time working out rotations with JB. JK is still only 22. Putting him back in the rotation more than that in the middle of a playoff push that’s working is a pretty heavy lift to demand out of Kerr.

As far as the playoffs go, you play who you think you can win with. And Playing JK doesn’t get Curry minutes anyway. Last I checked he’s not a point guard. Despite what everyone seems to think about him being a power forward, he’s a 3-slot who can’t dribble and can’t reliabily hit open threes. He has no 4-slot power in the post and can’t guard guys who can. Which seems to be a favorite kind of player for GS. See Moses Moody.

The GS front office has killed Curry’s legs with their idiotic “two timelines” plan, their fixation on “athleticism” over ability to contribute (like NFL teams who draft athletic freak wide receivers who can’t catch - and the Haliburton whiff over the recommendations of their scouts and in favor of a basically unscouted “athlete” is almost as stupid as Minnesota taking two other point guards ahead of Curry); their refusal to find a creditable backup point guard, or for that matter an actual NBA center or legit scoring 2 guard; and their focus on trying to win a championship in 2034 or whenever they think they’re going to do it again, apparently not recognizing that generational players and not the Front Office’s Amazing Brain Power (Brought To You By Light Years Cereal) generally win championships.

They killed Curry’s legs when they picked Wiseman over Haliburton and Kuminga / Moody over trying to use their draft capital to get Curry scoring support through a trade or moving up the draft. Then the NBA helped out most recently by apparently telling the refs to let Houston use Curry as a rugby ball in the first round.

He was hurt more than our aged core and missed a significant amount of playing time last season.

Some nice highlight watching analysis you got there.

But that’s actively damaging to his career goals. So why should he play ball with you? He’s likely in a better spot taking the QO than a deal like GS in offering just to be trade bait.

How to say you’re lightyears behind without saying you’re lightyears behind

He says he’s willing to walk. Passing up 50m guaranteed to sign an 8m QO is pretty out there when career earnings are 25m.

There is no cake.

“He’s willing to walk”—he’s not just willing, he wants to, but he doesn’t have that option. It’s not leverage. His choices are the QO or the deal. His only leverage is the QO (ie. you don’t get to trade me). The Warriors only leverage is also the QO (ie. stay on the team you don’t want to be on, take a $15M pay cut this year, and risk not getting paid next year either).

He’s shown that he’s willing to bet on himself, I don’t think the Warriors FO has much leverage left. He’s okay with the QO, and they would absolutely lose him for nothing in that case.

It’s really not that risky for what is on the table.

Kuminga could play for \(8M this year, come off the bench and play just like last season, and he’d still be looking at 3/\)60M minimum type deals elsewhere.

And there’s a heck of a lot of upside from there.

Warriors aren’t putting a good enough offer on the table to make him avoid the risk of the QO.

They can trade a 2+1 with player option as well, it just wouldn’t be as attractive to the receiving team. The fact that he would accept a 2+1 with player option means he doesn’t control where he plays for 2 years. It’s crazy his agent would go to the press with this after putting out the narrative he would sign the QO.

A 2+1PO is still tradable in a few months and that’s 2 years where he doesn’t control where he plays. If he wants full control he wouldn’t accept it and just take the QO like he said he would. This is just his agent creating more drama that is inconsistent with what he previously said.

There’s no such thing as “waiving a player option” that has never been offered.

They are in the Warriors sub. A good amount of clowns want to just kick him out completely and open up the slot for some random G leaguer who will produce what Kuminga is doing because that G leaguer will insert one of the many keywords “scrappy” “heart” “dawg” “high bbiq”].

This is the paradox the warriors front office has created for himself. It’s pretty clear the front office wants to keep him and they value him otherwise they would have traded him to another team offering by now. But they want more for a player that the coach is saying is bad. I think they are desperately hoping Sac or Phx budges but honestly I think all teams may wait it out,

On Kuminga’s side he basically doesn’t want to be held hostage by the warriors, especially if he thinks Kerr won’t give him meaningful minutes or try to develop him.

This is a shit show everyone who follows the nba knew was going to hit this past summer. Everyone except the warriors front office I guess.

why arent warrior fans more vocal about shipping him off?

Because we’re bored/tired of talking about it.

Kuminga is a great athlete, high ceiling, low bbiq, bad fit in Kerr’s system. Should Kerr be blamed for not playing him enough? You could argue that, but I think Kerr has won enough to justify his actions.

Everything else is just guessing, conjecture,and awkwardness because of the lack of trade destinations available.

90% of warriors fans want him tf off our team. He’s athletic and young and that’s all he has going for him

Most Warriors fans do not give two shit of whether Kuminga is on the roster in feb. if he shows up and contributes, great. Otherwise whatever, it’s lost cause at this point.

Warrior fans want him to be on tradable contract so they trade his salary slot for someone who works better with the team. We can’t pick up any players more than min with or without kuminga.

It’s why Warrior fans wants him to sign but also shits on him left and right.

They can’t really trade him to the Kings until December.

The only kings offer we have requires us to trade Buddy or Moody as well (for salary) and get back no wings, which would leave us with Butler as the only wing player on the team. That’s why the kings offer wasn’t accepted

If we take the Kings offer, we have to find a third team to take either Buddy or Moody. 

I think it’s more the fit with Draymond & Jimmy that’s the problem, not with Steph.

Because some people actually watch the games instead of just evaluating the box scores…

Anyone who watches all the warriors games knows exactly how infuriating Kuminga is as a player, and why he doesn’t fit the team at all.

Warrior fans are so disrespectful to their own players, its so weird

Right, I don’t really see the reason for the hate unless you’re a Warriors fan. Dude isn’t the best, isn’t the worst, doesn’t fit the system, but so what? There are a lot of average players in the league, no reason Kuminga deserves hate for not being the player people want him to be. He wants to go to a team that wants him and a team that will play him, both very rational and common goals.

Warriors are the ones dragging this out, with the coach publicly criticizing him and lowering his value, giving him random minutes, and the team openly trying to overstate his value to trade partners while trashing him while he’s on the team. Why wouldn’t a young guy with his athleticism want to get out of that situation and bet on himself? Warriors just have to accept they’re not going to get the return they want and give him the player option.

Its a weird thing because i can see it from either side. But this is basically it. Warriors right now are by far the most cohesive veteran basketball team. Its almost kind of refreshing how they dont give a shit and just operate like a team in the 90s would. Kuminga doesnt deserve shit just because hes a young high upside player. If your ass and dont play in the system you lose minutes, nuff said.

Trade him then why offee him a deal at all

So did injured Moody and Podz, but they started every playoff game

I think hockey too but for salary floor purposes instead of trades, lol. But yeah, the gymnastics teams have to do now for the salary cap and taxes is wild.