This upgrade option is not available for Stash Tabs that were converted to Premium Stash Tabs via the “Upgrade to Premium Stash Tab” purchase.
We’ll be making a change to the Merchant Tab upgrade system where you will be able to upgrade Extra Stash Tab purchases that were converted to Premium Stash Tabs via an “Upgrade to Premium Stash Tab” purchase. We expect this to roll out sometime in the next week, pending testing and any issues that may arise. Thank you for your support and patience!
Wait, “extra” stash tabs? Does that mean if I only have my four starter ones converted to premium I can’t convert any of them to merchant tabs?
I have a feeling they don’t want there to be the possibility that someone converts all of their tabs without thinking about it, and suddenly has zero tabs in PoE1. So maybe the original 4 you get with PoE1 are off limits for this.
possibility that someone converts all of their tabs without thinking about it, and suddenly has zero tabs in PoE1
Very cool, but considering it’s literally priced as premium tab, and has zero reasons to be not premium tab in current implementation(other than greed), maybe they should just add that option in premium tab then?
They created this problem themselves out of nothing. If it was premium tab toggle to autosell to merchant, suddenly there would be 0 issues and no need to convert or be worried which tab is eligible or not. It’s simply greed.
It’s not priced as a premium tab though?
A premium tab costs 40.
Upgrading one of your base tabs costs 15.
Feels like a pretty obvious reason why you wouldn’t be able to convert those.
i agree with this
Asking the important questions.
I hope they answer this.
Seems like you can’t for now.
I sure hope mine will be eligible because I bought one from the shop without the option to choose which tab.
Thank you
Why cant I convert my old premium stashtabs? i was able to convert one i bought last year and all prior ones are not supported (they are not converted!)
That would be useful. Though how do I know if I upgraded the original 4 stash tabs or the extra normal stash tabs I bought afterwards? I have 4 normal stash tabs and a bunch of premium tabs.
Edit: Thinking about it more, I don’t think we can choose which tabs get upgraded from standard to premium tabs. So since I bought standard tabs before premium tabs existed, I expect the correct ones (newer purchased standard tabs) got upgraded? I always kept 4 tabs as normal no matter what.
Please do also implement it for converted default tabs. If you don’t they will be useless which is unfair. I don’t even understand why two of those types exist? Let’s be real, noone is going to use normal trade anymore.
Thats pretty convenient that it will take a week when players will want to be trading early using these tabs that they cant convert. Still seems pretty shady to me. Can you elaborate on why this wasn’t known early on and why it will take a full week to solve?
I upgraded 25 stash tabs thinking they were just bringing them forward to the new system, turns out they’re all remove only now and I dont have stash tabs. Did I mess up? was I only supposed to upgrade 1-2?
Glad i read this i thought something wrong with my account
Does extra stash tabs mean it excludes upgraded starter tabs? And if so, will refunds be offered for people who upgraded starter tabs who were led to believe they could get the new market tabs and now can’t?
Pitchforks incoming.
https://preview.redd.it/w1j15z0g90mf1.png?width=303&format=png&auto=webp&s=b9b0a55e9e065d5ff4da840fa5ac23b757b8fe38
https://youtu.be/xIhIXv9b7Qo?si=BxmtmXljbK7Ris_x&t=3790
“Premium stash tabs purchased before the release of 0.3.0 are eligible to be upgraded to merchant’s tabs for free, this process cannot be undone. Please note that stash tabs are sahred across your account. any tab that you upgrade will be unavailble for use in path of exile 1 untill merchant’s tabsa re made availble there. any items in an upgraded tab will not be transferred and will remain in a remove-only version of the premium stash tab”
There was no text about OG tabs from before premium that later was upgraded to premium would not count, but now 1 week later that message is there.
Completely reasonable pitchforks as well, this is honestly an insane thing to do with no warning.
Yeah, locking out a large portion of users from trade is not a good way to start 0.3. I upgraded an original tab when I first started playing because of the way the weird trade site worked, otherwise I would have never done it.
7 Premium stash tabs and I can upgrade none of them, what the fuck
Edit: If you’ve ever paid for extra normal tabs and then paid to upgrade them to premium tabs I guess you can just pound sand as far as this system is concerned. Great start.
Edit2: The text wasn’t even there during the original showcase, that’s pretty bad man. ty to pastisset / PA-Curtis for pointing this out.
Crisis averted.
Hopefully it’s just an oversight
It isn’t there is a specific text that says it
This is to fix the issue of someone potentially converting their 4 base tabs then deleting them by changing them into merchant tabs. This was thought out.
Then why make it affect tabs purchased later? I purchased all my tabs before premium tabs even existed.
It was done so people can’t get Merchant Tabs for cheap by converting normal tabs you get for free but it’s kinda weird since you always could do that to get Premium Tabs in the old trade system. Straight up greedy and messed it up for people that bought both the tab and the upgrade and still can’t convert.
I’ve played PoE1 for 14 years and only remember one single time where you could get actual tabs for free (some kind of Halloween random reward if I remember correctly, one of the rewards was a free non-premium tab). Or was there something else?
its not because its free, its because they aren’t availlable in poe1 yet, so it would allow you to become stashless in poe1. High chance that once they’re in PoE1 that you’ll be able to convert all premium tabs.
They could have easily added an exception to exclude just the base tabs people start with.
The fix to that is capping base upgraded tab conversions to 1… they capped to zero
if they have the tecnology to recognize upgraded and non upgraded tabs to allow you to conver them i’m prety sure they could just not allow you to convert the 4 starting ones even after upgrading them and not affect the rest….
it’s kinda shitty
Never it was stated that “upgrade to premium tab” is less than “premium tab”
EU doesn’t like stuff like that
https://preview.redd.it/m5kfzyxge0mf1.png?width=865&format=png&auto=webp&s=6373a9527deb55ffdc70c5a3d76aa156986c443c
Fuck that sucks
That’s crazy lmao
15 total with 1 eligible here lol…
Heh I’m almost identical; I got 1 out of 16. I bought most of my tabs before premium tabs existed, I guess. I’m going to see how just one feels for now.
at least you have 1 lol LD good for you bud!
yeah at least give us one tab or the upgraded premiums or something
That text was not in the showcase video, and I upgraded 3 tabs to premium after watching it.
Honestly, not the best feeling, I feel played.
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People might be able to get a refund but you’re pushing it a bit. They’re not suable for this.
I got omegabaited
Sueable is a stretch. Any lawyer would argue that it clearly states premium tabs purchased and not all premium tabs nor tabs upgraded to premium. It’s still shitty though.
Edit: Never mind, just now, I see the difference in text from stream to current. That’s fucked up.
It looks like they decide to change it last minute which is really BS move from them.
The fact that they’re able to distinguish between premium tabs and normal tabs that were upgraded to premium tabs implies that they’re probably not the same thing in the database. It’s far more likely that this is just a technical limitation that they weren’t able to implement a solution for in time. That message was probably added last minute to let players know why some of their tabs weren’t showing up as eligible.
I hope this is just a misunderstanding and they will patch it in. Obviously a lot of people have upgraded tabs.
Why would it not work? Normal tab 30 point, upgrade 15 = 45. same as a premium tab 45 points so makes no sense. Even with discount the portions were the same.
they wrote it there intentionally. Its very likely something in the database id imagine
Dont care, go over and determine that it should work.
Here is how it works:
Jonathan: Can we make a system to upgrade existing premium tabs? Developer: Probably, let me go test it out in our test environment.
Next day: Developer: It works, we can do it.
GGG announces it.
Later:
Developer: actually, it works fine on new premium tabs but isn’t working on tabs we converted from normal. Not sure why yet
later… 1 week before launch
Developer: Ok, there is an issue in how the db stores and treats tabs that upgraded from normal tabs. It will take at least 2 weeks of work and some extra downtime of the whole system to fix it.
My hunch:
If they delayed the league, I bet they could fix it. But they don’t want to delay the league.
So this tiny detail wasn’t shared a week ago when the feature got announced, and instead they did a massive FOMO by saying “premium stash tabs purchased before launch of 0.3 will be able to be converted”. All that while coincidentally having a stash tab sale where a lot of people who had normal stash tabs, upgraded to premium without knowing they will be ineligible.
As someone who was straight up deceived into purchasing something that doesn’t work as advertised, I will 100% be asking for a refund if this doesn’t get fixed. It’s unacceptable and it was a straight up lie.
yeah mate, players usually bought quadtabs for trading and upgraded the useless basic tabs to premium. And now they are both trash
you will only get a points refund. Not an actual dollar / real money refund. Charging back will have your account permanently banned.
That is pretty fucked up. I saw the advertisements saying the bundles couldn’t be converted but why would a regular stash tab that’s been upgraded to a premium be different? I would have just gotten a regular premium when the shit was on sale last week wtf lol.
Yeah if this was previously announced I would buy premium tabs instead of upgrading them. Wasted my points in the last sale.
Actually bundles can be converted, I have been able to do so at least
I upgraded some stash tabs to premium just to be able to convert them to merchant tabs. Doing that without previous warning is really shady GGG.
Lol and they didn’t warn us so i just wasted my point upgrade tabs for nothing? Hope they change it.
How am I supposed to know which tabs I upgraded vs bought? I have like 50 tabs that I bought over the course of 14 years playing and I’m pretty sure most of them were upgraded rather than bought outright. This is a dumb decision from GGG.
My Hanlon’s Razor theory is that their spaghetti code on the back end is the cause for this, and somehow the upgraded tabs are inherently different than the purchased ones. Rather than fixing it they just limit the players…
It just lists all the tabs eligible for upgrading.
You don’t need to know the specific tab you’re changing and select it from a list of all tabs.
Yeah I suspect those tabs somehow still show up as the free tabs and they don’t have a way to tie the purchase directly to the tab. The other reason might be they can’t delete what essentially are the base set of tabs from poe1 that have been converted to premium tabs.
Were we warned about this? As far as I can recall, I didn’t see them mention it anywhere. Does this count as a scam to stupidly upgrade normal stashes to premium, and do they think we’re even stupider for spending more money buying stashes from the merchant?
No they didn’t warn us at all in Q&A when they announce this system i didn’t saw a single one mention this
and on the leageu anouncement that message wasnt there
https://preview.redd.it/mc50zqjzi0mf1.png?width=1167&format=png&auto=webp&s=73fb3bf5f5166b73be0839bd8c8d27de08932627
Yeah it looks like a last minute change that make this even worse.
They warned about certain things but as far as I’m aware they did NOT mention that you couldn’t convert premium tabs that were upgraded from regular tabs.
Lol they baited people to upgrade tabs and then denied them. Classic.
WHAT? WTF is that for? Refund my points then.
Crazy we just had the stash tab sale too this feels pretty fucked up.
It’s nice that I wasted over 100 points on stash upgrades that I didn’t needed.
I feel things.
Contact support and try to get a refund for them if you can.
this is really bad, but i think they gonna change it after backlash
What the fuck..
this is a shit move not gonna lie
That’s pretty sneaky haha, gg ggg
honestly that feels like a screw up. wth is that lmao
This is such horseshit lol. 0 eligible tabs… right on
This is bullshit.
What a stupid decision. I started playing PoE just 1 year ago and all my normal tabs were converted to premium but now they don’t work for this
Doesn’t makes much sense to be honest… I assume it’s because that those fresh accounts receive 5 normal tabs and they don’t want to give free tabs technically
I feel like everybody should get a free merchant tab going forward. Sure, everything else is still limited but trade especially with an auction house is going to be such a basic feature for the playerbase it is insane to me that it is still fully gated behind payments
Same here. This wasn’t mentioned before :Z Bought stash tab bundle and upgraded 4 of them coz I didn’t have enough points for premium bundle and now can’t convert any of them, thats sad ;(
wow i hope they revert that decision. crazy
Yeah, this is bullcrap. Out of 11 premium tabs, I could only upgrade one…
On top of that, it also makes them unusable in PoE 1 until they get around to making the merchant system work there.
Check back in a bit. Mine said only 3⁄21 originally and now lists 10 more.
Same here. I have 30 premium tabs. It said I could upgrade 5. I upgraded one and a few more popped up. I upgraded another and 10 more popped up.
Hey thank you - I tried again (I had one of 16) and was able to upgrade several more.
Mine said 2 of 16 but after I upgraded those it showed a bunch more.
Exactly the same
WTF
Ok, this needs to change. Makes no sense whatsoever
this is so stupid
Oh come on…
Where can I go and upgrade the stash tabs?
https://pathofexile2.com/my-account/manage/merchants-tabs
Thanks!
HOLY SHIT THATS LOW AS FUCK FROM THEM
Big thanks, Tencent, for supporting your old supporters who bought tabs even before Premium tabs existed
Premium Stash Tabs
12
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Doesn’t even make sense, as others pointed out the point value of an upgraded premium tab is the same as just buying a premium tab out of the box no? I mean I understand that the game has 4 tabs for free, but surely GGG can track that the 5th regular tab and onwards that were upgraded were bought with money and therefor should be made eligible for the upgrade to merchant tab.
I left a negative review on steam for POE 2 citing this. This is an absolutely unjustified cash grab that spits in the face of all the people like myself that spent a significant amount of money upgrading regular stash tabs. I’m disappointed that GGG is seemingly going the route of predatory money-maker without realizing that the majority of their money comes from players buying cosmetics and supporter packs to support their company. Abhorrent decision.
Wut.
This is bad. Needs to be fixed
That is a real dick move, I have a good amount amount of tabs that I bought over 10 fucking years ago but I can’t convert any because they are all upgraded from regular tabs. I bought them all when trading via forum threads was the only option so at the time there was little point buying premium tabs.
Same thing here, all my tabs were bought when you traded the hard way. So now I only have 1 tab I can convert.
I have 6 premium tabs and 0 I can convert. Thanks GGG. None of this was conveyed beforehand, way to nickel and dime your supporting customers.
Thats just bad.
I need a point refund then because I literally just did this a couple days ago with like 20 regular stash tabs I had for years.
This is fucked
Yeah, kinda frustrating to have 19 tabs bought way before and only be able to convert 4…
GGG you can’t do this now. You know people spent point converting tabs for this too.
Why nickel and dime us like this GGG? Every person seeing this has paid \(30 to play your game and has a collection of tabs ready, you really want us to spend \)5 more for this? I thought about getting another supporter pack for the fun of it with this release but this just put a sour taste in my mouth.
https://preview.redd.it/1qa6fqohg0mf1.png?width=236&format=png&auto=webp&s=3a2ee3d4f7e21e2046f9dc0d085c5dcd08732885
Got 16 and can’t convert even one, all bought years ago. That’s a gross oversight to say the least.
patience brother
Uggh this sucks
What is this? Before GGG wasn’t predatory like this.
Hopefully this is a weird technical issue like needing to update some database schema, and the limit will be temporary until they have a workaround… Because that seems like an odd/arbitrary limit on the surface, which is going to anger a lot of players.
Feel free to use my code, GGG:
if ( (default_stash_tab + premium_stash_tab) > 4 ) { upgrade_to_merchant_stash_tab(); }
They cant. Not spagetti enough…
wtf is this bs?
i bought 4 stash tab bundles back then before quad tabs were added and it counts 1 bundle as 1 upgradable tab…..
Edit: Ok just upgrade them and more will show up.
Give them a negative review on steam. It’s a pretty scummy move to bait players into spending their points during the sale than adding the restriction.
all of my premium tabs are upgraded from normals, fuck me i guess
https://preview.redd.it/e51wrd9xa0mf1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f3b7445b1cec67c0e154bb62c2f2db7c41ea8526
This is wild, only 2 out of my 24 premium tabs is eligible
same here
Wait so premium stash tabs aren’t automatically available for merchant tabs? What’s the point of premium then?
Does this not work for PSN? It says I have 0 premium, but I’ve bought multiple singles and a few quads (I understand the quads can’t convert)
Same for me..it says 0 premium.I have at least 2 and 2 quads
If its a premium coin saving issue then make the difference a charge to convert it. I’m going to have 7 wasted tabs for what? Nobody is going to use regular trade. Fucking money hungry
Yeah, this gotta change, fast.
It’s insane and greedy.
:=)) Well-played GGG.
Raise your two handed pitchforks boys, burn our oligarchy!
They should just give 1 merch tab for every premium tab like wtf is this convoluted shit.
Refresh took me from 1 to 6 eligible(of 16 total)
mine all converted lmao so they only count my quad stash no way im converting that
I emailes ggg quad tabs cant be converted. There is only normal premium tabs
Why would anyone ever buy a normal Premium Tab when, while they are on sale, buying a normal tab bundle and upgrading them is cheaper?
I also don’t think they announced this beforehand. I specifically upgraded some tabs in anticipation for this…
Cool I’ll just play SSF and save my money
Nah thats fucked lol
Wtf
I wonder if they realized how bad this would go.
21 tabs cant upgrade any, feels good.
Nice 0/4 of my prem tabs are eligible. Welp so much for my excitement for the patch
sending much hate from germany for this move wtf
What a bummer…i have 24 premium tabs and i can convert none of them…
Wtf is this shit. I’m assuming its some technical issue that wasn’t resolved, otherwise I’ll be using pitchforks.
I have 11 premium tabs, 0 i can upgrade. ive been supporter since 2013
GGG goes from WWW to LLL very fast this patch lol.
It’d be nice if they change this. Feels like they won’t lose much in revenue and will make customers happier.
It makes sense so people don’t upgrade the free original tabs for less, but I bought a 6x stash tabs bundle and upgraded 4 of them… can’t trade none.
Apparently not premium quad tabs either? I have upgraded all my tabs and bought a bunch of quad tabs, but absolutely zero are eligible for upgrade. That is rather shitty to be honest.
Literally updated on the recent sale specifically for this, this is fucking bullshit
for me it’s 12 tabs into the garbage,
Fix this asap!
This really should have been communicated clearly in advance.
28 premium tabs, can only upgrade 2. LOL. What a joke.
38 and 0
At first I figured it was fine cause it was to prevent people converting their 4 default tabs and using them all for merchant tabs bricking their stash.
But then I actually looked at my own account and realized how cooked it is.
https://i.imgur.com/jZHIGZc.png
LIKE BRO HOW CAN I ONLY CONVERT 4 TABS OUT OF 35????
They should change it because I did not realize like 90% of my tabs were upgraded. But that makes sense because I bought normal tabs to store items and premium to sell items. Then as I bought supporter packs I upgraded all my tabs at one point with excess points on stash weekends.
I had originally planned to convert 10 premium tabs to merchant tabs but obviously that’s not going to happen now.
Edit: NVM they just didn’t add a scroll wheel to that page for some reason, converting 3 tabs updated it and added way more to my list.
https://i.imgur.com/6YOx3eS.png
16 premium stash tabs.
ONLY ONE Eligible to upgrade to merchant tab.
What a bullshit.
https://preview.redd.it/mma572xfd0mf1.png?width=865&format=png&auto=webp&s=5a08aa9a76068b3af29719a921b75b86a044d067
Much FUN!!
https://preview.redd.it/2ah09qh0h0mf1.png?width=233&format=png&auto=webp&s=3366b58101a2071816ba5a4ea335369182607053
Exact same here Why they didn’t mentioned this? That’s so fucked up
https://preview.redd.it/p97b934hi0mf1.jpeg?width=674&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8ba58d2108d1fb7814575b0bfc750ce6cd2e0503
Because of what they said I spent my money on nothing, I had enough to buy one of the new ones.
for anyone that wants to look and see that the text wasn’t there in their video, it’s at 1:03:14.
heres a screen shot just in case…
https://preview.redd.it/ajcw2ef001mf1.png?width=1513&format=png&auto=webp&s=83fb932cc45fcd49196005b9e6bae9aff53b130f
All I see is a list like this, how do I know which ones are quads?
https://preview.redd.it/vqxg5fzi30mf1.png?width=279&format=png&auto=webp&s=289866050983f98317e76b0f6315240c511e3ad6
None are, you can’t swap quads for merchant tabs
daaam. I have way too much to trade usually. Gotta go with like 5-6 normal tabs then
i just did it right now and it worked for me had 18 stash 0 merchant now it is 12 stash 6 merchant.
Edit: i can do up to 7 others. the basic 5 dont work yea u r right
Its not the basic ones that dont work, its basic ones you’ve upgrade to premium
So if you had a basic stash tab, upgraded it to premium, that premium tab can not be converted to a merchants tab. See here, all my stash tabs were upgrade to premium so now i cant convert a single one to merchants
https://preview.redd.it/55wjfveu40mf1.png?width=245&format=png&auto=webp&s=b8735f94885370bb21d599be738835b92f7bcf23
My guess is that there is some back-end issue causing the problem and this will eventually get resolved. I doubt this was intended.
It’s the GGG playbook. They must have REALLY hated it when they let us upgrade regular tabs to premium 10 years ago.
welp SSF i go to see the new changes, no trade for me
extra stash tab (30 points) + upgrade to premium stash tab (15 points) = 45 points
merchant’s tab = 40 points
both are about the same price and yet the upgraded tabs cannot be converted? what kind of business move is this
This is such a shame
Negative review on steam from me. And a big middle finger to them. Im never spending anoather peny for this scummy move.
45 tabs i bought way back and upgraded, so no tabs can be converted for me. Guess i will now have to buy even more tabs
G(reed)G(reed)G(reed) lol. Did not see this one coming. Felt that should’ve been communicated A BIT MORE clearly if they wanted to make something like that.
Well, this sux and honestly there’s no valid excuse, they should’ve stated this VERY CLEARLY because a lot of people (like me) just upgraded their normal stash tabs to Premium and now we’re screwd.
Lol i have 9 Tabs (Normal) and 8 are upgraded so i can only get 1 merchant tab What the fuck guys?!!!
https://preview.redd.it/z3wrdohjj0mf1.png?width=1182&format=png&auto=webp&s=1b3e9902f437888fc81e61525db1a1ce84c8b5d4
0 of 12 for me (((
0 of 38 in comments…
Hope GGG will do smth till i get to act 4…
11 tabs that I can’t convert to merchant tabs, lol, all of that only managed to get one tab.
https://preview.redd.it/hyya4uo0k0mf1.png?width=733&format=png&auto=webp&s=564eec76ba9c623500b4dedf8f0c5311c78b3e28
THIS IS BEFORE THE RELEASE so this is clearly a bait
NaH this is crazy, legit got scammed, I ONLY used the upgrade feature.
How do I transform my stash tabs into selling tabs?
I was wondering why it showed fewer upgrades than my premium tabs. Hopefully, they can offer it for upgrades later on.
Well, I only had 6 upgraded tabs until the last stash tab sale (purchased a bundle to upgrade to merchant’s tabs) - guess I made the right call. Hope GGG addresses this though, I’d be royally pissed if I couldn’t upgrade the only 6 PREMIUM (albeit upgraded) tabs I had.
I hope they change this. I wanted to convert 4 Premium but could only convert 1… really unlucky.
Spaghetti Coooooooooooooooooooooode.
12 of my 17 were upgrades. Not ideal, but I can handle it.
My only concern is some people that have no upgradable tabs could mean less insta-buyout sellers.
Do I understand it correctly I have only one eligible tab to upgrade? https://imgur.com/a/jAKQLHp
I’ll wait to hear a response from GGG on this before I light my torch. Hopefully it’s just something they haven’t found a fix for yet. It’s early access so things can always change.
