I felt it was disrespectful and stupid that they gloss over into the IT era in the celtics city doc.
I feel like the IT era is incredibly underrated. this era definitely deserves more love.
I loved IT, but the IT “era” was a few transitional years between two objectively more important eras. Like, they can’t cover everything that has happened to the team in 75+ years. Some stuff has to get cut.
I think this is a fair take, but I think it discounts the culture reset that was taking place over these years. IT had a legitimate MVP level season, and got people to buy back in to what Danny was building. The nets trade picks were about to come to fruition, and let’s not discount Al saying explicitly that playing with IT was a major reason why he signed. 10 episodes would have felt more whole, but I am bias with him being my favorite player.
I think it deserved at least half an episode. If IT didn’t get injured they would have been legitimate contenders in 16 or 15 I don’t remember which. They even had a winning record against the warriors. What they were doing was wild. No real stars and putting up a crazy record through good team play. Then the crazy windfall when they traded him so coldly only for Gordon Hayward to die in the first game of the season, ending another possible championship team.
they were never legit contenders even with however far they went. Those teams were fun because there was no expectations for them and overachieved.
How were they not? They were in the ecf and had a winning record against the defending champs. They simply matched up poorly against that cavs team and it got injured. Simple as .
because they were never beating a team like the cavs in a 7 game series and thats the type of team you have to beat to really contend.
They definitely could have beat the warriors in 7 tho. That’s the point. They had a winning record against them all season. And they had a shot against the cavs, tho a weak one, if it was healthy.
lmao no.
Yes a winning record against the wc champs and going to the ecf is basically indicative of being a non-competitor lol. I guess according to you the only teams actually in the running are the ones that eventually win it all. Must make gambling very easy for you
Name one NBA Team that won a championship with their best player being under 6 foot. Especially in the modern era, it’s not possible. Secondly, when exactly did they have a winning record against the Warriors? I just looked it up and if we’re talking the 2016-2017 season they went 1-1. Either way the way teams approach regular season games and playoff games are completely different. a guy like IT could never lead a team past a team lead by Lebron in a 7 game series even if he got 100 tries. It’s just not happening. You have rose tinted glasses for that era. They were a team with a ceiling that pressed up against that ceiling as much as they could and we love them for that. They however never had a real shot at a championship even if they went to the ECF.
Lmao yea those 2 inches curry has were really doing a lot. Like he wasn’t an absolute black hole on defense. It’s not rose tinted glasses. It’s actually just absurd to say that a team that makes it to the ecf isn’t a legitimate contender. If that’s your standard literally at best 2 teams per season are contenders which, again, must be great for you to have the foresight to isolate that because you stand to make a killing on draftkings lol.
My bad on the record tho. Still going 50% against the best regular season team of all time and then the that same team +KD should speak to their abilities. To discount that as, ‘not a real contender’ is absurd imo
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They also didn’t win shit in the 90s and early 2000s but talked about that plenty. If you’re gonna mention Rick Pitino as much as they did then IT definitely deserves at least five mins.
Also the story of Pitino is the low point of the story arc, helps explain why KG/PP/Ray mattered so much. The IT era was just something plucky that happened in between.
The producer went to every game of one era and almost zero of another
Fine if that’s the real reason, but everyone in here saying “zero banners” as if that stopped them from telling the stories of the 1987-2007 Celtics.
It’s 9 episodes to cover 75ish years. The IT era was fun but only because we expected the team to be trash.
It was more than just expecting the team to be trash. He was a legit mvp candidate
It’s the Celtics. We don’t celebrate “very good” or hang participation banners.
I loved the IT era, too, but it was a blip in the history of the team. To say that glossing over it was dIsREspEctfUl just shows you lack perspective.
Uhh this fanbase definitely does that.
Which is mad annoying because our franchise is better than that lol
Meanwhile the transition from the 80s to the 2008 team gets a whole ass episode, IT didn’t even get a name drop.
A whole ass episode that covered like 12 seasons?
As opposed to one that covered the 12 seasons between 2012 and 2024?
It was cool and all but they had much more success pretty much all the time except the 90s
It was basically one year and then it was over
Found Isaiah Thomas’ burner account
It wasn’t an era lol
Dino Radja era didnt get covered either 🤷🏻♂️
I mean Cedric Maxwell got much shorter shrift given his contributions he was an NBA Finals guy.
I do wish they had more than one highlight of IT but the Celtics have a long history. And they mostly focused on 18 championships for which it was not a part of
This is one of those arguments where I definitely see both sides, and don’t get me wrong I LOVED Isaiah Thomas but let’s be real here for a second. We’re talking about a franchise which has been around for 80 years, has appeared in 23 finals series winning 18 of them, not to mention countless other deep playoff runs and successful seasons featuring countless hall of famers and some of the greatest players to ever pick up a basketball. It’s kind of inevitable that a two-year period featuring two playoff series wins would be forgotten. That doesn’t mean that the feelings we all had for that team should be discounted or forgotten, we will all remember the joy of rooting for an overachieving team led by an electrifying 5’9” scoring machine with the heart of a lion. That’s what being a true fan is; we keep alive those memories which others who are not as devoted as we are kill off with time.
IT was great but he was in Boston for 2 1⁄2 years. I know he had a huge impact on kids watching that team. He definitely made some Celtics fans. 2 1⁄2 years is forever when you’re 12.
They just didn’t have enough time to do too much on that one conference finalist.
If by underrated you mean overrated, sure.
Yeah at best, it coulda been part of a montage of “the wilderness years after a title”
If you cut out all the Bill Simmons and his Dad segments, I bet you could squeeze in some IT time.
The Brad Stevens Era, you mean.
When you’re covering a 75 year history that includes 18 championships and countless other near championships it’s a little tough to spend much time on, like, one season where they got eliminated in the first round by the Hawks and another where they were on the bristle side of a gentleman’s sweep.
The seventies got 1 episode. Relax.
I don’t like that they glossed over the construction of the 24 team when they did that extensively for the previous generations
IT era was something you just had to be there for. I loved it. I appreciated it. But looking back, you wouldn’t understand what it meant if you didn’t live it yourself
well said. just had to be there fr, such a fun couple seasons especially 16-17
We didn’t win anything….
Bill Simmons said the worst losses of his Celtics fandom happened in the last 15 years. But it appears only the losses mattered to him because he doesn’t give a damn about the successes of that era.
They spent way too long on the black and white footage and not enough time on the the more recent players and the team that had actually just won the championship
You mean the teams that build the foundation that make the franchise notable in the first place?
So weird that they spent more time on the WINNING part of our history.
Super underrated. Celtics have a whole fan base because IT was bringing the team back into contention
here’s a doc i found on the IT era.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4n6p_bSPQls
I completely agree. The story of Banner 18 should absolutely be told through the lens of the rebuild. I probably wouldn’t be the fan I am today if it weren’t for IT. He really got it.