TronCarterAA

47 | a day ago

I wish you could chance orb the normal rarity ones.

No-Ambassador-2725 | D4 bad

50 | a day ago

So they disappear, right?

PowerCrazy

75 | a day ago

Actually that’d be fucking hilarious, so yes

DarkSatelite

11 | a day ago

Make them turn into mimics rarely when chanced would be pretty funny

viomonk

3 | a day ago

If that could happen I would chance them 100% of the time. I would turn all of my currency into chances. I fucking love mimics.

anapoe

1 | 21 hours ago

Make them look like unique boxes that are actually mimics :D

Food_Kitchen

2 | a day ago

Or like a .0001% chance they turn into a Gamble box.

No_Tomatillo_2216

1 | a day ago

or a small chance to turn into multiple strongboxes? or am i crazy to think that’s good haha

UnintelligentSlime

3 | a day ago

This is only tangentially related- but PSA

If you have the unique strongbox node allocated, there seems to be something wrong with it, causing the opposite effect. I hadn’t seen a unique strongbox since the loot patch- i deallocated it, and have seen two unique strongboxes in 10ish maps since

Ok_Switch1850

8 | a day ago

Possible confirmation bias with a low sample pool. I’d take this with a grain of salt but nonetheless thank you for the testimonial.

poderes01

5 | a day ago

A lot of people are saying the same so maybe there’s something going on

dytega

3 | a day ago

Yeah that can’t be right bc I got that atlas point early on and I’ve definitely seen unique strongboxes since then

SaltyPants666

1 | a day ago

Same here

No_Tomatillo_2216

1 | a day ago

Haven’t tested myself but have the unique strongbox node as well. Haven’t seen a unique strongbox in roughly 25-30 maps. Gonna deallocate it when I hop on and see what’s up. Though it could most definitely just be bad RNG.

UnintelligentSlime

1 | a day ago

It definitely could- but after seeing a similar post someone else made I tried it and saw almost immediate results. Obviously anecdotal, but worth a shot for sure.

EffectiveTonight

15 | a day ago

Did you just see the recent QoL post to learn this? lol check out the upcoming patch if you haven’t!

No_Tomatillo_2216

6 | a day ago

I did indeed hahaha

nassit

10 | a day ago

You can use vaal orbs on essence things too. Not sure if you can use other orbs on those though

No_Tomatillo_2216

3 | a day ago

Did not know that either, thank ya :)

nassit

3 | a day ago

I learned that today actually so we are learning buddies lol

draken413o

2 | a day ago

I just learnt this too. Also vaal orb makes all the items corrupted.. kinda sucks

SilverArrows6662

1 | a day ago

Yes, so only do it on the researchers strongbox (which I believe only drops currency). Don’t do it on the other strongboxes.

eggman_cancerboy69

0 | a day ago

What does corrupting essence do?

SosoJamabo

2 | a day ago

Can change or upgrade essences. Alao insta release The monster

eggman_cancerboy69

3 | a day ago

Sounds like there’s 0 risk or downside to vaal essence

Curious-Ad-6140

1 | 19 hours ago

the downside is you could expend your vaal without gaining anything, or you could roll essences to less desirable essences instead, or you could upgrade your essence mob into something that deals a lethal combo to you.

eggman_cancerboy69

1 | 19 hours ago

What are some essence people would consider more desirable/useful, so I don’t corrupt those

Curious-Ad-6140

1 | 16 hours ago

Anything that provides generally useful stats like Mana, Life, Attributes, or Defences are surefire hits. But i play SSF so i dont know the economy aspects 100%

SuperHooligan

9 | a day ago

Never knew that. This game is not very user friendly. I didn’t play PoE1 so I learned a lot way after I should have.

Don’t know you could distill amulets with abilities. I still don’t whittle anything, mainly because I don’t have much currency to do so.

I was about 6 tiers into the first season before I coin out you could orb waystones.

There have been a few other things that have been almost game changing when I learned them as well but can’t think of them now.

No_Tomatillo_2216

3 | a day ago

I share the same sentiment. But it’s a long ways from release so maybe it’s our fault trying to come in early :P that’s what i chalk it up to haha

Kevlar917_

1 | a day ago

I think the distilled emotions explicitly tell you how they can be used…

SuperHooligan

2 | a day ago

It says it can be used, but not how to. I thought you just combined them in my inventory. Finally watched a YouTube video of how to do it and learned you had to find the reforger or whatever it is.

No_Tomatillo_2216

2 | a day ago

The amount of youtube videos I’ve had to watch to understand this game LOL. I wish it was a bad game so I could stop playing already :(

SuperHooligan

3 | a day ago

I actually really like the game, but man it’s frustrating sometimes. Learning all the new stuff helps out a lot though.

I try to play a lot of games with no outside influence like YouTube videos, walkthroughs, or spoilers, but a game like this requires instruction.

No_Tomatillo_2216

2 | a day ago

I tried to do the same, but you definitely needed to play poe1 to do so. You’re at a massive disadvantage if you don’t spend at least few hours doing some research on what most consider basic things.

No_Tomatillo_2216

0 | a day ago

It certainly doesn’t. Because I just found out 2 minutes ago you can use them on maps as well.

secavi

2 | a day ago

The literal text on the emotions:

“Can be combined with other Distilled Emotions to Instil Amulets with Notable Passive Skills or Waystones with Layers of Delirium

Right click this item to open the instilling window”

No_Tomatillo_2216

0 | a day ago

and when I right click and open the instilling window, place 3 distilled emotions in and nothing comes up, what am I supposed to think? How am I supposed to know what a notable passive skill is? Does that just give me 5 attributes or is it a special passive skill I can only get with distilled emotions?

It makes sense once you know obviously. But as a new player this could be a lot more clear.

secavi

1 | a day ago

It sounds like you didn’t really try to engage with the mechanic at all and are confused why nothing happened.

You open the instilling window and were able to put the emotions in, which leaves an empty slot. Why isn’t it immediately clear that slot is for an amulet or waystone, given the description says you can instill amulets/waystones.

Hovering over ‘distilled emotions’ says you get a notable from the passive skill tree, so if you go to the passive tree and look at the nodes, you notice that only some of them have combinations of distilled emotions (if you hold alt, which is says when you hover over the nodes).

What could be made more clear?

No_Tomatillo_2216

0 | a day ago

It sounds like you’ve played a lot of poe1, and assume we all have the same general knowledge you do. Why would I put 3 distilled in without putting in an amulet as well? Perhaps I put in a recipe that did not create anything.

How am I supposed to know that in order to gain the recipe, I need (or even am able to) hold alt over the nodes to see the recipe? I’d love to know where that information is located in the game. That would have been nice to know as well.

secavi

1 | a day ago

I’ve only referenced the item descriptions from poe2, and I have not referred to any knowledge from poe1, so no, I’m not assuming you have the same general knowledge as me.

The emotions say they instill amulets or waystones, so doesn’t it make sense that you would have to select which amulet or waystone to apply them to? By placing them in the box in the middle of the screen when you open the instilling window?

When you hover over Notables on the passive tree, it says “hold alt to inspect”, so I’m not sure how it could be made clearer that would satisfy you.

Other than an explicit tutorial, what would you add to make it “clearer” in your mind?

No_Tomatillo_2216

0 | a day ago

I did not say you referred to any specific poe1 knowledge, but that you clearly have poe1 knowledge. Which would make things like this, and many other things seem much simpler to you. I am not sure if you’re trying to be helpful, or just trying to argue.

What would make it more clear is a definition of notable passive skills, or a more clear definition of what distilled emotions do. What may seem clear for you is not clear for everybody, and I am happy for you that it makes sense. For some of us, it does not. and judging by many reddit posts, it is not clear for many of us new players who never played poe1.

secavi

2 | a day ago

I brought up the fact that I only used poe2 descriptions to indicate that all of the required information to understand how the mechanic works is currently written out in the game itself. The plain meaning of the text on the very items you’re saying you don’t understand explains what to do.

I’m trying to be helpful by pushing back on your idea that every single little thing needs to be spelled out for you.

I feel like it’s pretty clear which of the passives are notables, considering only 1 type of them has a recipe if you hold alt. Also, if you type in ‘notable’ into the search bar, it highlights them.

You say, “more clear definition of what distilled emotions do”.

This is the current text: “Can be combined with other Distilled Emotions to Instil Amulets
with Notable Passive Skills or Waystones with Layers of Delirium”. What about that text is unclear?

South_Butterfly_6542

1 | a day ago

TBH with you, you didn’t “miss out” that much; using currency on strongboxes is a gamble, it only makes them slightly more rewarding on average honestly….

You should be using up all your currency on your maps, first.

SuperHooligan

0 | a day ago

Yeah I’m not even using currency to make most waystones better because I can’t afford it.

South_Butterfly_6542

1 | 18 hours ago

The protip I have is: Focus just on prefixes this league. I think it will change in 0.3, but only prefixes make maps drop more stuff. You can use omens to ONLY add prefixes to your maps.

SuperHooligan

1 | 18 hours ago

I still dont even know the difference between prefix and suffix.

South_Butterfly_6542

2 | an hour ago

Each non-corrupted, non-unique item can have up to 6 modifiers. Magic items can have 1 prefix and 1 suffix. Rares can have 3 prefixes and 3 suffixes.

On some items, like amulets, prefixes are where you can roll +X to Skill, and suffixes are where you can roll +elemental resistance. You could never get +X to Skill on a suffix, since it’s a prefix modifier.

In 0.2, waystones (“maps”) got changed so that prefixes add loot, and suffixes add difficulty. If you raise a map’s difficulty, it will drop more maps, but that’s it. So if you don’t have many maps, making them harder is good. But if you just want more loot, you only care about the prefix modifiers right now. The more mods you add to a map, the fewer tries you get (dying=-1 attempt).

SuperHooligan

1 | an hour ago

Thanks for the info, it definitely helps. I thought a prefix was what certain items, say sapphire rings, always have +cold resistance.

South_Butterfly_6542

1 | an hour ago

Some items, like rings, Have “implicit modifiers” which (currently) can never be changed ever. Implicit modifiers can be added with a vaal orb, sometimes. Rings and amulets have implicit modifiers like +resistance or +attributes. Some armors and weapons have implicits, too. If an item doesn’t have an implicit, it’s either a “weak” base type, or it’s a “strong” base type (if an armor doesn’t have an implicit mod, it might have much more base armor to compensate). “Explicit” modifiers are those you can add/remove on an item, using chaos orbs or exalted orbs.

It’s a bit overwhelming, but for each item type, you can see what possible mods can appear on its 6 potential affix slots, but it’s a lot to understand for a new player.

Gdcotton123

7 | a day ago

Wait what. I knew you could scroll on them. Didn’t know that

Macohna

3 | a day ago

Lol yes, and now with loot buffs it’s worth it.

But they can get dicey fully juiced if you aren’t prepared.

Ok_Switch1850

3 | a day ago

exalting is not worth unless it’s a researchers strongbox. I watched a dissemation of strongbox data youtube video. If you would like a source i’ll dig for it, but just to let you know.

edit- spelling

Macohna

1 | a day ago

Oh yea I’m specd into research and only upgrade them. I should have been more specific, ty.

Rusty-Boii

1 | a day ago

Unless you have some rarity juiced maps, tablets, and gear then just get them up to rare with regal orbs. Huge waste to spend a lot of exalts on them lol

Kage_noir

1 | a day ago

Not in my recent experience. I have made more exalts or broke even on using obs on strongboxes since the loot fix, espeically when the box rolls high rarity, when it doees, then i use exalts on it

SuperUltraMegaNice

4 | a day ago

We making it out the hood with this one

Davidwalsh1976

4 | a day ago

You can also vaal essence bosses to get more or even greater essences

teach49

1 | a day ago

Oh fuck me, is that new?

Hand_some_Jack

1 | a day ago

nope, its in the game since poe1

Rustmonger

4 | a day ago

Please just let that saying die

DamiosAzaros

0 | a day ago

I was today years old when I saw someone complain about that saying for the first time

SubstantialInside428

1 | a day ago

Really we can do that ?

Grunvagr

2 | a day ago

Yes. You can use blue orbs from your inventory, or alchemy orbs, or exalts and even Vaal orbs. You spend money to make money as more mods ups the difficulty but also your odds for a divine orb or major loot.

This next patch they are making it even easier by changing the strongbox to indicate you can upgrade it by showing the orbs hovering right above the box itself. Really nice quality of life feature.

SubstantialInside428

2 | a day ago

That’s not QOL, that was a missing feature…where is it even explained ?

Grunvagr

1 | 20 hours ago

Oh it is a problem currently. But this upcoming patch is a huge step in the right direction.

You can also use a Vaal orb on an essence. Those trapped monsters you come across? You can use a Vaal orb from your inventory and click right on it to modify it unpredictably.

And yes, you can use blue orbs, alchemy orbs, exalts and Vaal orbs on a strongbox. Currently, you find one in your maps and have to carry the currency on your character (truly annoying) and then you can identify the strongbox, and buff it up to have as many modifiers as possible.

There are a lot of things in the game that you have to learn. When you do, the game gets easier and more fun. Wish they did a better job of explaining it. But a small victory is this next patch showing the orbs you can craft with (visual icon hovering over the strongbox) so finally people will know, plus it will be easier to click it.

Another thing to know is anoints on an amulet. Don’t bother until you are in maps and have a decent amulet you won’t be upgrading soon. Check out YouTube vids on how to annoint. You can magically pick ANY notable skill on the passive tree. Wish you had more cooldown reduction? Search cooldown in the passive tree and look for the big bubbles (large nodes called notables) and look for the ones you want. No need to be anywhere near it on the tree. It’s a huge power spike.

Lastly, maps can be crafted on too. Even a Vaal orb. So you get waystones… go to the market and trade for some alchemy orbs on the exchange. Anytime you run a map slam an alchemy orb on it. It will make the map harder but it drops more waystones, better loot, more enemies and rares means more experience if you don’t die. Spend the money to make more currency.

The logic is: spend, make your character slightly more powerful, clear harder content, earn better loot, power up some more. Don’t horde your exalts. Spend those to buy gear or improve your waystones and whatnot. 1 or 2 divine orbs drop and you can trade on the exchange for buckets full of whatever you need.

GoldStarGooner

1 | a day ago

Always could 😂

Miles_Adamson

2 | a day ago

Ya this is quite a bit harder to discover in poe2, in poe1 there are currencies which only work on strongboxes, so that leads you realize currencies work on them in general

Slodin

2 | a day ago

I knew it from POE1, but just didn’t bother with it because I’m lazy 😅

dytega

1 | a day ago

Don’t feel too bad it took me way too long to realize you can augment and transmute tablets for towers. Thought you just had to get lucky with the drops until I saw a streamer do it and I felt like the biggest idiot haha

BenMQ

1 | a day ago

There must be players out there not knowing that you can upgrade waystones…

Did you know that you can Vaal skill gems?

dytega

1 | a day ago

Yeah learned that the beginning of this league bc greater jewelers were so rare everyone had to get creative lmao

Also just leaned if you get a shrine buff you don’t want you can click on it and it goes away but I believe it doesn’t work on console

BenMQ

1 | 20 hours ago

WOW every time I get the convert drop to gold shine I had to sit there before fighting uniques 😆

secavi

1 | a day ago

Did you know you could ID them with wisdom scrolls? If so, it’s not that much of a leap to think you can use other orbs on them.

What other things do you think aren’t properly explained?

No_Tomatillo_2216

1 | a day ago

I did not know you could ID them. I assumed they were already identified. There’s no indication they aren’t haha. I never once considered to use an ID scroll on anything outside of my inventory and actually in the game. Makes me wonder what else I am missing now….

Other things are for example, holding alt on things to explain what they do, for example “shock” or “elemental threshold”, basically the underlined stuff. Just found that out the other day. How to use multiple items like ID scrolls or orbs without having to do it one by one. The endgame map in itself has really no explanation at all. For example, it would have been nice to know that if you die in a corrupted nexus, you won’t get the atlas points. Or if you skip tiers (ie you have the quest to do a t1+ and do a t6, your next quest will be t7+) you can’t go back. I just found out the other day that I could get a passive tree ability by using the distilled things to enchant amulets and how to do it because there’s no explanation of what distills actually do. There’s more but that’s off the top of my head.

I think a lot of these could be solved by adding this info to the loading screens personally. I am also not the smartest guy in the world. But then again, not many are.

Edit cuz i remembered another big one for me: Citadels. What are they? What do they do? How do you find them? I still don’t know to be fair. Also what is the monolith? What does it do? Why should I do it? What are breach splinters actually for? These are all questions I still have.

secavi

2 | a day ago

You haven’t seen a single magic or rare strongbox? They explicitly say ‘unidentified’ on them.

Having to hold alt to hover is obscure yeah, but once you know that you can just hover over most things and learn how they work.

I think the t6/t7 corrupted nexus thing is a result of the change they made to reduce the number of nexuses you have to do; before the change, it would go up 1, 2, etc as you would expect.

There is some obscure stuff for sure, but most in game mechanics are explained by reading the items lol.

No_Tomatillo_2216

1 | a day ago

I assumed opening them was me identifying them.

Pretty much everything is a matter of “once you know it, it’s not a problem”. Same with using multiple ID’s/orbs at once. But if I didn’t watch streams, I’d have never realized it was even possible.

Revolutionary-Ice-16

1 | a day ago

I did not know that. Are you saying it’s documented somewhere?

secavi

2 | a day ago

Is it documented that you can use ID scrolls on strongboxes? I don’t think so, but I personally don’t think it’s too much of a stretch to expect you to try IDing them with a scroll without being told to

TFPwnz

1 | a day ago

When you hover over a magic or rare strongbox it literally says “unidentified “.

Revolutionary-Ice-16

3 | a day ago

I play on console. There is no hovering.

Edit. I get that your point is that I’m stupid. Awesome. My point is that the game could tell you.

bigmac22077

1 | a day ago

How would I do this on console?

GoldStarGooner

2 | a day ago

Walk up and hold the interact button near them. It will open your inventory and you can roll them however you want.

Kamelosk

1 | a day ago

Since im a poe1 player i knew this, but is kinda crazy a lot of new players dont know, wich makes sense because there is nothing that tell you.

Imo the first time a strongbox spawn to your new character, a popup window should say what you can do to them

blade55555

1 | a day ago

Wait really? For some reason I thought you could only do this on essences. Going to start doing this!

No_Tomatillo_2216

1 | a day ago

Make sure you ID the strongbox first so it actually works! Just found out you can ID strongboxes as well haha

warped_and_bubbling

1 | 21 hours ago

I keep a stack of transmutes and augs in my inventory while mapping just for strongboxes. I know it doesn’t affect much, but opening normal strongboxes just feels bad, ya know? Did something similar for poe1 but in that game it was a stack of alchemy instead, which obviously would be a bad idea for poe2.

choke_my_chocobo

1 | 21 hours ago

How do you do that on console?

No_Tomatillo_2216

1 | 20 hours ago

Hold in on X or A whichever controller your using. It opens up your inventory to use scrolls and orbs on it.

I play PC but this is from a quick google search. Seems to be the correct answer.

_Hello_Hi_Hey_

0 | a day ago

BUT HOW?

No_Tomatillo_2216

2 | a day ago

Your guess is as good as mine. Haven’t tested it out yet. Only found out because of the quality of life changes in 0.2h. I’m assuming you’d have to ID the strongbox (found out you can ID strongboxes today too), then use orbs like you would items. Hopefully somebody else can tell you for sure.

_Hello_Hi_Hey_

1 | 4 hours ago

Just tried it and got my first Perfect Jewellers Orb!

eggman_cancerboy69

0 | a day ago

Wdym u can orb strongbox? U can turn magic boxes into rare and upgrade them with exalts?

No_Tomatillo_2216

1 | a day ago

Yes you can add modifiers to the strongboxes. I also believe you Alch/regal white strongboxes as well.

eggman_cancerboy69

1 | a day ago

Damn didn’t know

Wonder if that’s how people were getting divine out of strongbox

No_Tomatillo_2216

1 | 21 hours ago

If you’re talking about the 10x divine drops, that would be from unique gambler’s strongboxes I believe.

eggman_cancerboy69

1 | 21 hours ago

Nah it was 1-2 divs from rare/magic boxes

Last time I did gambler box i got 20 augment orb on 2M roll lol

BenMQ

-1 | a day ago

This was added as part of 0.2.0. I only found out about it when looking at the DoTH update webpage.

Edit: wrong info big time

Hand_some_Jack

2 | a day ago

nope, you could always do that, even in poe1

BenMQ

1 | 20 hours ago

Oh right shit my bad. It was corrupting essence encounter that was new in .2 - got the mechanics mixed up

seattlesupra98

-3 | a day ago

read the patch notes sometime for the game you play dude

No_Tomatillo_2216

3 | a day ago

how do you think I learned this…

seattlesupra98

1 | a day ago

I have no idea, you didn’t put it in the post.

The game is constantly updated. Read every patch note. It would be way more work on to also detail the changes inside the game via NPC text or whatever magical solution you’re thinking of.

No_Tomatillo_2216

2 | a day ago

Magical solution is to add it to loading screen text. I feel its a better solution then expecting players to read patch notes that came out months ago, assuming you’re referring to 0.2 and not 0.2h.

If you’re referring to the 0.2h patch notes, then I can only assume you’re trolling.

Even wilder take: shouldn’t have to read patch notes in the first place to find out about a core mechanic in the game.

seattlesupra98

1 | 15 hours ago

.2 patch notes are not going to fit one one loading screen or even 10 of them

I was today years old when I found out you can orb strongboxes