The Celtics WILL win this series. If you jumped ship this quickly, don’t come back when they win š
I think itās very normal to be disappointed, angry, etc in a team that blows 20pt leads in back to back games without ājumping shipā.
Yes. Valid criticism against poor coaching and player performances isn’t the same as “jumping ship”.
If most of us were to jump ship we would have had decades to do it.
I just think its funny that we think ANYONE here has a clue what “good” or “bad” coaching even looks like. They hyper-focus on a single play at the end of the game instead of the fact that if the C’s literally made a SINGLE bucket in 8 minutes of gameplay they would have won.
I’m focused on the Celtics blowing two consecutive 20 point leads by insisting on chucking threes, having no strategy and refusing to go to the basket despite plenty open paths to it. The final few plays having been decided by a player insisting he get the ball with - again - no plan or design behind it and coach not calling a timeout is just the icing on the cake.
Except I think thereās a big difference between being disappointed and angry, versus some of the shit Iāve seen on this sub. People calling for Mazzulla to be fired, people completely turning on Tatum and acting like heās never played a good playoff game in his life, or saying itās time to blow everything up and get rid of Tatum and/or JB.
i was downvoted for saying “trading tatum is stupid as fuck” here recently
Ya but for sure there are plenty of people who are jumping ship
Yeah. The fire the coach move the player posts are wildly premature.Ā
You donāt think itās alarming that during those Cold stretches Itās straight iso basketball ? Itās on the coach to run plays
You can say it is iso basketball, but in some cases it isn’t taking much to get clean looks. I would like to see some more ball movement. Regardless, we are a year removed from hanging a banner with this exact group. Everyone should be prepared to run it back solely based upon that.
Yeah I donāt understand the fans on the extremes of either side. Wanting to be super happy after these two losses, or wanting to fire Joe and trade the Jays.
I go with the strategy of work through my grief with anger and depression between games, then start getting back to ALRIGHT LETS FUCKING GO BOYS, GET THAT ROAD WINNNN
I mean, i’ve gone nuclear, but I said when we were up 20 that if we lost the game I was gonna go full Jayla and start screaming about giving cops traffic tickets
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yeah posts like OP’s just kinda seem delusional and sycophantic. Like you’re not allowed to root for the celtics anymore because you expressed doubt after 2 20 point blown leads at home.
Itās all about the ātrue fansā.
I believe he’s talking about people who are in the “fire the coach/blow the team up” crowd (hence jumping ship). It’s completely normal to be disappointed or have doubts, this is not aimed at those people.
Yeah I think the level of pain we feel just speaks to the level of care we have for this team. So many of us grew up with this love. There is so much history, so many memories and so much of our time put into them. It fucking hurts when they blow it
Saying this about the team with the most NBA championships is crazy.Ā
And this post is referencing people who jumped ship.
Agreed. But you also get the clowns who respond in anger, āthese guys suck!ā
Championship mentality is navigating those roadblocks and putting in the work to overcome them on such a short time frame (a do or die 7 game series, and essentially a do or die game 3 on the road)
Weāll see if our guys truly have it or not
Some weirdass toxic positivity threads here. This has been embarrassing. Doesn’t mean we can’t win.
How many games does it take to understand that 20 points in the modern NBA means NOTHING. With the fact that 3 points are worth 50% more than a FG, and the variance of shooting on them, 10 points you can convert in under a min without even being “hot”.
ROAD DAWGS
woof woof woof woof
Where my road dawgs at?
Iām actually a little stunned how quickly people have jumped shipā¦
There was a “am I the only one who is starting to hate this team” thread with like a couple hundred up votes. Those people should be ashamed.
Sports means sometimes you’re angry at and/or hate your team, especially when they display a total lack of interest or effort in two consecutive playoff games. Being a fan is not being a member of a cult. You’re allowed to get upset.
Saying you hate the team after two playoff losses when they won a championship last year is hardly being a fan
In fairness, the two losses were both historically awful collapses that this league has never seen before. If there was ever a time to cut the doomers some slack, itās after this team makes history for all the wrong reasons.
Everyone fans differently. Why are you policing others on how to be a “proper” fan? Sometimes crowds boo the home team at halftime. Loudly. Are they all bad fans?
People who are fans of something don’t typically talk about how much they hate that thing the second things go wrong. Criticism and frustration are both fine and very called for after the first two games. Saying you hate them seems extreme.
Meh people are upset and will say a lot of things to vent. Saying they hate the team is MILD lol. Like a teenager screaming they hate their parents.
Teenagers are universally seen as annoying and melodramatic for this type of behavior.
The word fan comes from the word fanatic. If that response can’t be described as fanatical then I don’t know what can be. Everyone needs to stop gatekeeping fandom, green teamers and doomers alike
Hey. Stop gatekeeping gatekeeping.
It’s not being a member of a cult to not bail on a team and disown them after two losses. And of course I was pissed after both games, especially game 2
Bro people were saying fire mazzula, blow the team up, fuck this team, it was crazy
Like I canāt even be mad when people come at us because when you see shit like that, they got a point
Truly if we lose this series I think Mazzula’s job is in jeopardy and the team will see significant roster changes.
I dont’ think that’s hyperbole. They already weren’t as good as the top teams, imo. I didn’t see them beating the Thunder. But a 2nd round bounce forces the hand.
I get being angry at them, but I’m sure anyone who was in the “fuck this team” camp is just disappointing and mentally preparing for the next chapter. Hopefully our next title doesn’t take 16-22 years again.
Typical knee-jerk reactions to anomalies. Imagine if the organization leaders think this way.
There are a ton of toxic fans who, rather than enjoying the ride of the Jays, are always looking to find the criticism and hate for the team just so they can feel superior rather than sad if the team fails to win out.
A ton of those fans were the obnoxious fans last year who never enjoyed the season because they had the “doesnt count if you dont win the Finals” goalpost. Those same fans spent this whole year complaining about how the team wasnt as good as last year and are the same fans who are jumping ship/making apocalyptic statements of the team’s failures before they happen.
Contrary to popular belief, this team has faced a lot of adversity over the years and has almost always come thru for me. I can’t start doubting them now. I’m shocked there’s so many people who have.
Why are you stunned? They didn’t just lose, they looked like total frauds in two consecutive games on their home court. Hard to keep the faith after that.
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They looked like the better team in both games, going to overtime in one and losing by 1 point in the other, while shooting 25% from 3 in both.
If they just shoot 30% in the next 4 games they likely win in 6. If they shoot 35+% in each of the next 4 games they definitely win in 6.
They looked like the better team until the 4th quarter. Them jacking up threes in the 4th when driving and kicking/moving the ball had been working all night both nights is what’s killing us. Jaylen Brown gonna have to put up 30/game before the 4th if we wanna win at this rate.
There’s no reason Tatum can’t figure it out tonight. But there’s also no reason why Tatum can’t nut up and take these dudes inside like he did to the magic the last series.
Tatum might need a few pointers from Rob Williams on figuring out how time works if he’s out there playing tonight.
They were and are the better team but DAMN that was awful basketball
Looked like total frauds? They lost 2 games by a combined 4 points.
That’s certainly one way to look at it.
Yall be wearing your hearts on your sleeves. Iām still Enjoying banner 18.
It’s sports. It’s ok to get upset sometimes. You’re not being graded on this and the Celtics aren’t going to date you.
Never said you werenāt allowed to be upset bud.
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I do think they’re going to win (potentially in six).
Even if they don’t, I’m still going to be cheering them on Saturday and beyond, until they’re officially eliminated. This team gave me so much joy in my life, especially the last two years. They deserve my support.
Why stop cheering when theyād eliminated? Ā Keep supporting all year
I don’t see them winning, but I’d love to see them pull off a miracle and spare themselves the historical humiliation of losing in the 2nd round so shamefully.
I’m on record saying losing this series doesn’t just end up a unprecedented embarrassing failure, but I believe strongly it also forever cements the legacy of the 2024 championship team as just a group of baby soft frontrunners who would never have won a title had the entire eastern conference not gotten injured.
Threads like this, I get. Nobody wants to admit our favorite team just were made to look like fools and is probably going to lose to an inferior Knicks team with a rabid shit-talking fanbase that will never let us forget it for the rest of our lives.
I’m certainly hoping they turn it around, but I’m not going to pretend like things are ok. It’s not ok. We now have to win 4 out of 5 against a team most of you were underestimating going into this series. They were due to get a win, but back-to-back in Boston in this fashion is incredibly bad. Knicks haven’t even played that well. Those were our games to win. They are still due to just have a huge game against us at some point.
Vegas still have the Celtics winning the series though. So there’s that.
you dont sound much like a celtics fan. must love listening to felger every day. one of those kinda fans
Look at all the recent 0-2 comebacks it has happened alot
celtics were down 3-0 against the heat and rattled off 3 wins gotta take it 1 game at a time no reason celtics canāt go into ny and steal 2 games
Surely they won that series
If Tatum doesnāt turn his ankle in the first min of that game I think we legit come back down from 0-3 and win 4 straightĀ
yeah but thats part of the problem. Boston isn’t healthy and each game gives us more opportunities to get injured. Extremely hard to come back from what just happened.
not saying they win the series but they won 3 in a row facing elimination all im saying is thereās no reason they canāt win 2 in a row to tie up the series
Yep, look what happened last night with Minnesota & GSWā¦ Celtics are still in this!!!! āļøāļøāļøāļø
Uhh Steph didnāt playā¦
Steph has been nothing in recent games and golden state still won
Look at all 0-2 comebacks it’s happened in the NBA recently alot also the could have won each game they lost game 1 in ot and game 2 by only 1 point I think the league should go back to no threes and make just half court or more 3 or 4 points the 3 points line has ruined the game no defense anymore and not as much offensive rebounding earn the points
I actually looked into this. While a lot of teams have come back down 0-2, significantly less have done that as the higher seed losing those as home games. The most recent team to win a series that way was you guys in 2017 against the bulls
The most shocking comment I’ve read was they want to trade everybody.
āTatum for Luka who says no??ā
No
Hell No!!
i mean they almost certainly will partially clean house if they lose this knicks series. You can’t come back from that and you can’t go deep into the apron tax for an also-ran that just was historically humiliated
Been super annoying watching Knick fans act like they already won the series. (Really all of nba reddit shitting on Tatum.) I’m ready to watch game three Tatum light them up on their home court. Buckle in cause we’re gonna witness greatness
I sure hope youāre right but it feels way too much like Tatum is going to try to play hero ball because of all the criticism and just like at the end of game 2 it wonāt work
Uh yeah? You guys have talked the most trash specifically about the knicks for the entire season, don’t start crying now cause your losing. It was also pretty annoying to hear how we weren’t going to win a single game this series. This stuff goes both ways.
No one has taken Boston to 6 games yet until us. Hell if we lose the series Iāll still be happy af. We all thought it would be a sweep š
Imagine being happy losing a series š¤£
When you’ve been in hell for twenty years, anything feels like heaven.
We aren’t better than the Celtics, no one came into this series expecting anything different. The Knicks being up 2-0 on the champs is absurd. If you come back and win it, well yeah that’s what you’re supposed to do. You’ve literally been elite for years.
Sounds like youāre mentally preparing yourself for it.
Life of a Knick fan - believe nothing
Us do you play for the knicks
If I do play for the knicks the Celtics easily got this
I might as well the way I leave open shooters in pickup
For real, stay on that side.
I still am all in on the Celtics winning the series, but don’t conflate legitimate criticism of their performance down the stretch in both games 1 & 2 as jumping ship.
Both games should have been closed out simply by continuing to do what got them big leads. If they do that going forward, they will have no problem taking 4 of 5.
The Celtics will win the next 4 games idc
Maybe we start with 1 win?
Start with 4
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Appreciate this dawg, and I see you defending Tatum from the over reactions too. I hate the lakers till I die but itās only 2 franchises in this whole league that reign supreme over everyone else and all these yappers come at us the hardest they yearn for what we already have. Heavy is the head indeed.
The energy is about to shift š
If you havenāt seen Jayson Tatum suck for a few games in a row and then suddenly become the best player in the league 10 times by now then youāre not a Celtics fan.
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I donāt understand the point in dooming either. Why not just root for your favorite team to comeback?
it’s a defense mechanism. Don’t worry about it. Those fans all wanted to see Boston repeat as champions too and are just disappointed to see them probably losing in the 2nd round.
CELTICS IN 6. BLEED GREEN BABY.
Not worried. Theyāve come back before
Google 0-2 NBA comebacks it’s happened recently alot it’s almost the norm now
A lot of people in this fan base are spoiled and don’t realize how good they have it. Most fans would love to have a team as successful as this version of the Celtics.
I’m rooting for the Celtics but what they’ve shown is ugly and not deserving of our blind support. Each game everyone says they will turn it around and blow out the Knicks. They are playing like they want to be swept and go play golf.
I never jumped ship and never will. Iām just disappointed in their playing/coaching. The adjustments arenāt being made so hopefully they learn and weāll see a better game 3.
Iāll always have faith. Letās do this.
I knew it was only a matter of time before someone made a post saying something like this……
CUsRise
Weāre fans of a team, not yes men. I believe we will win the next two. Doesnāt mean I have to be happy with the previous 2 performances
The knicks feel like they already won the series. Can we just close out a game? They are levels beneath us
This arrogance is why you’re losing.
Ironic.. how a fan can be the reason for anything on the court š the arrogance of NY fans must be the reason the Knicks are historically losing franchise then š¤·āāļø
I have not seen the Knicks’ arrogance, only their determination to win. If the Celtics don’t win two straight in New York in the next two games, they may as well kiss the back-to-back titles goodbye.
We are speaking on fans arrogance. Thanks for butting in though
I see no arrogance from any player on either side
Absolutely, letās not forget this team was a sprained ankle away from coming back 0-3 a couple years ago!
It reminds me of when Marcus smart was on the team and would take some questionable threes to when a gave. I heard people say āIf youāre not with him when Marcus dumb, you canāt be with him when heās Marcus smart!ā
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2 blown 20 point leads should have people concerned. Itās not about jumping ship, itās about being honest. I think we still got this but I canāt lie, Iām concerned about our mentality going into game 3. Even if we get swept and I bitch and moan itās still Celtics all day.
We need KP closing games so bad thatās what we have lacked plus actual game management strategy lol
No question. KP would be nice but we donāt need him. Iām not saying change the gameplan overall but if youāre up 20 itās time to get easy baskets while also attacking their guys to put them in foul trouble to soften up the defense. Mazzula needs to do better as does Tatum
Absolutely agree man. We all love Mazulla, but Jesus his strategy makes me pull my hair out. When we have KP we take more 2 pointers and slash more when he dominates around the key and top. Praying we get 30 min from him this game we will easily win
If Jayson has something to prove, nowās the time! Lfg!
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Itās ride or die.
Definitely not gonna jump ship but man idk how so many people can be so confident after the last 2 games and now shifting to New York
Lets hope š„²
Itās fine to be disappointed: I think that after last season, we collectively believed that we were past these sorts of letdowns.
Itās very redolent of the Miami series in 2023 but obviously, Iām going to ride with the Jays until the wheels fall off.
Iām honestly more sad than anything: weāre being hammered with the quite realistic possibility that this team will be broken up and that weāre seeing the last month or so of Jrue or KP or Sam as Celtics. I guess itās just the romantic notion from bygone NBA eras that these guys will retire as Celtics after last seasonās championship, but we all know that itās incredibly unlikely.
That said, I do detest the fans who donāt appreciate or want to understand just how good this team has been since Jaylen and Jayson came here.
Frustration is frustration but some people on this sub take it way too far - itās like one of the players assaulted their mothers based on some reactions Iāve seen ā and itās usually the bandwagoners that glommed onto the team the last few seasons.
I didnāt jump ship but my feet are in the water
Iām excited to see how they respond to this profound level of adversity.
I do not subscribe to any fan purity tests. Some are diehards others are fayerweathers, some root because their spouse, GF/BF etc. is into the team. All are welcome. No one should judge or care about your level of fan hood. Do your own thing.
Yesssssir!!!
Game 4 will determine series. I think they destroy them tomorrow
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Damn right. LETS GO CEL-TICS!!!!
they aren’t dead yet. but they got to get their head out of their @$\(e\)
What qualifies as “jumping ship” I feel like you cannot question the decision making in the fourth quarter without people on this sub saying you are hater or not a real fan.
I still believe they can win, but they need to get their heads out of their asses and play better late in games.
Can I believe that they’re going to win and still kind of hate them a little bit
I remember all these SAME TALKING POINTS vs Philly that one year, 3 quarters into game 6…
Anyone wanna remind me of what happened after that? My memory’s are a little fuzzy…
Jumping ship is just as silly as insisting they WILL win. āAnything is possible.ā
Vegas still has the Celtics favored to win the series.
But this does not look like a championship team.
Thatās because they need to balance out the money being bet.
Define jumping shipā¦. Obviously I want this team to do well and to be great! That being said there are glaring issues and itās not wrong to point those out or to ask for change. JT and JB havenāt been great but they are our core so you take what you get from them and hope for the best along with the fact they have nagging injuries. Saying the rest of the team isnāt playing up to standards isnāt some sort of crazy take or anythingā¦. NY defense has been a lot better than people are giving it credit for. That said I blame the coaching for what we are seeing. No direction or leadership to get the Jays on track. If you see Tatum settling for 3ās as a coach how is that not a point of emphasis? How do you not call timeouts when needed? How is your last play of the game to hope a semi transition bucket works again? I see Kerr setup actions to get his guys open and it feels like we need more of that from Joe and havenāt gotten it. We drove more in the second game but are scared to attack still because of NY semi help. They need to be decisive and make plays like we have all season. A coach is the one who should be telling all this to the players and getting them committed to the game plan. I still hope this team makes it and wins it all but itās not a perfect team and if we lose there should be accountability
This is the type of shit Iām here for! No one said the road to 19 was a smooth one! Madison Square Garden is going to be ruckus, but our guys are built for it.
I’m nervous but celtics in fuckin 6 baby
Yes…..this series is not out of hand at all. We will win both games in New York for sure.
The knicks are much less talented but celts need to win 4 straight because game 7 could go either way knicks Better road team celts struggling at home
Holding an idiot coach and a superstar accountable for not showing up is not jumping ship itās captaining it
Win game 3 and youāve got the momentum back. I truly believe this team has it in them to win tomorrow and give themselves a chance. Theyāre due for a good game.
I wouldnāt say Iāve jumped ship just hardened emotionally for a negative result. But Iām a lifelong pessimist so this would be normal behavior for me.
Nobody is jumping ship. It’s totally ok to be pissed and vent on this forum when the team we all root for plays like shit.
I was in the 11th grade! ANYTHING IS POSSIBLEOOOOOOOOOOOO
We got 5 to win 4…easy.
Vegas odds still has the C’s favored for the series - barely.
Iām ok if people want to jump back in, weāre all on the same team here, I think, but at least own up to it if it does happen and donāt pretend you were saying theyād win all along, plenty of respect for people who can admit when they are wrong
I originally put away all my 2024 championship cards I had on display before the playoffs started. After these 2 loses I took them back out.
Sweep em boys
Ya can judge meā¦ im keeping receipts of everyone whoās talking shit and jumping ship
This hit hard. But I’m prepared if we get swept. :(
They have the talent but the question is whether they have the will and intelligence to do it
Donāt let us get one āļø
Of course we are winning this, but it does make us weaker towards a championship
Valid criticism isn’t jumping ship
Game 1: when you’re cold stop shooting threes
Game 2: They were penetrating but it did show how good Tom Thibideau defenses are. They swarmed inside and were getting their hands on the ball, cutting off passes. I don’t think enough has been said of the Knicks interior defense and Mikal Bridges’ offense. The Celtics gave it away, but the Knicks were still playing like a must win.
Its very hard to figure out the Knicks and I watch every game cause they are my team. The offseason was literally to compete with the Celtics. Go into the series with the best PG and C in the series and the wingstoppers to slowdown your star wings players.
Obviously Knick fans were very frustrated as you all creamed us 4x and that’s putting it nicely.
The Detroit series showed that Bridges/Towns both have “playoff gears” they didnt show in the regular season. They are NOT soft.
Mitch is finally healthy and doing Mitch things.
McBride waking up is a big problem for Boston. We have a very weak bench so getting big play from Mitch/McBride is huge for the Knicks.
I would have said the above give the Knicks a punchers chance but clearly those goalposts need to be moved. They are playing like the team they were build to be, up 2-0 and you have not seen a good game from Brunson. Reddit likes to push the flopper narrative but Boston is gonna see the man is a bowling ball and an utter menace.
Good luck tomorrow :)
I bet on em as soon as the game ended and the series hit + payout ffor them.
But it’d surely be nice if they didn’t fuck around in the 3rd and 4th quarters of games 1 and 2.
I am always outside the ship supporting or calling out as needed. I am no homer. They have not changed for years and choking is in the DNA of this team. Got lucky last year and not their fault that other teams injured or what not but I have made peace with the assumption that they are not winning any time soon with this roster and glad they won at least 1 with this group.
Itās not a series until the home team wins.
People rly be sayin tatum better than luka or ant , its just disrespectful and foolish at this point.Ā
Always keep the belief. Believe in Boston āļø
This is the stop for all the bandwagons and fair weather fans to get off. Only diehards from here on, win or lose
less teeth
Dangā¦ ima laker fan but this gave me the chills ngl
Letās Fucking go!!! Real fans know how good this team and is!
being pissed that we blew 2 20 point leads to worse teams is fine. not even watching game 3/jumping ship is sad af
This Iām not jumping shipped to anything. I just watched my favorite basketball team choke 220 point leads back to back in a fucking playoff round that is fucking abysmal regardless of what team you are.
If any team can come back and win the next 4 in a row, itās this Celtics team.
Michelle, you look good tonight.
Die hard Celtics fan here. I believe weāre cooked. Iām not jumping ship
Lfg š„
They will win. I’ve just removed any sense of care in the off chance we lose. Not doing that to myself lmfao.
Itās not that I donāt believe that if thereās a chance we will win. I just need a fucking minute from sportsman after what the Bruins did to me earlier this year and trade it away Brad and then I just need a minute.
Have a Cleveland just won game three and now they have a chance to win and bring the momentum back to their side and I believe between at least one of these two games we will too just stop shooting so many fucking trees please thatās all I want
The real ones never jump ship. Good team, great team or bad team. Itās never mattered. Celtics, Sox, Bās and Pats. Thatās just how it is.
Tatum is gonna have a monster game 3 I can feel it. Celtics in 6
Cavs fan. As an outsider you guys will win by 15 or so tonight. Youāre better at almost every position and Tatum will show up. I also think the Knicks will be tighter at home. Looking forward to hating you guys again in about 10 days.
Anything is possible but we have to get one W for the tables to start turning
as a knick fan I don’t get it. why you guys going crazy over two fluke wins? series is far from over and your team is amazing
Davis and Capers are officiating the games tonight. Hopefully that leaves Foster to help us tomorrow, as they could then use him Wednesday for GSW-Minn Game 5 to extend that series.
I don’t think we are jumping ship. We are just counting the life boats in case we hit that iceberg in game 3, we are prepared. If they lose game 3 it’s game over
They gotta stop chucking those threes.
I feel like I’ve watched them slowly lose so many leads while they just nonchalantly chuck up three pointers.
Like it’s happened so many times I’m nearly certain they will never stop doing it.
Seriously, just get under the hoop!
NBA should get rid of threes made curry more famous though
The Bucks came back from being down 0-2 in the finals. We damn near almost came back 0-3 in the 2023 ECF. Iām not gonna give up yet.
But Iād be lying if I said the Celtics donāt need to step it up big time right now. Game 2 should be a clear eye opener for the team.
KNICKS IN 4
Decades
Kevin garnett is not walking through that door. Porzingas is no Kevin garnett.
They got fuckn lucky lasybyear bro ! Heat w jo butler , clevelend no Mitchell , even if we were uo 2-0 , were not repeating , lets just be real ! You think well go and beat indy again them OKC , no way, . And i fukn love this team im just realistic ,, they cant stay healthy for a fukn week , KP hasnt okayed a full game since who knows when ,, amd we dont use half out team ,, half the time ig looks like they dont wanna be playing,, they got a ring and sadly they are HUMAN too, they miss their families and shit just like us ,