Some people need to know what’s called exact price
irl it’s a felony
😂😂
People say the wildest shit about trading in this game.
I had one guy go off on me, because I had something in my ~5ex dump tab listed for 50ex instead.
He insisted I was required to sell it to him for 5ex because it was in a tab called “price 5ex” and its listed price of 50ex did NOT matter and he would call the GGG police on me and have me permanently banned for scamming.
It was like 3 solid minutes of unhinged whispers. I wish I took screenshots.
My other favourite is when I accidentally list something for 5 alchemy orbs instead of exalts or even divs because I was in a hurry or tired.
Instant spam from bots. Price is obviously wrong so I go fix it.
But, there’s always one or two super aggressive types that spam party invites, and rage at me that I have to give then the item for 5 alchs.
Or, just as good, I get a message about an hour after I already sold it. So I respond with, sorry already sold. Then the rage response of “why are you still showing it as for sale on the tradesite?” Refresh your dned pages people.
Also, people who spam trade invites the split second I come out of the map. Do they think I have the item I want to sell on me while in the map? Are they afraid of losing 3 seconds?
I love it when I’m out leveling an alt and get a trade whisper, accept the invite and you know, finish killing that pack and drop a portal.
But they just instantly teleport themselves to my quest zone.
Like, dude… It tells you I’m in Mawdun Quarry. You know that thing is in my stash.
Why are you here?
That’s an understandable mistake though, as most will just click on the blue swirl without thinking. Since if someone’s in a map it’ll take you to their H/O.
People do all sorts of weird stuff in PoE2 like you’re buying an item and they come to your hideout when you’re going to theirs which means you then play musical hideouts or you go to buy something, wait for them to trade you and they get mad because you didn’t initiate the trade as the buyer lol.
then play musical hideouts
Don’t do this. Just sit in the seller’s hideout. Remember your etiquette
get mad because you didn’t initiate the trade as the buyer
Good. Maybe over time they’ll learn there’s a system the community has agreed on, mostly silently.
And the instant they show up, they try to initiate the trade.
I hate that. It also now makes your zone a 2p zone and buffs all the monsters I believe.
Ngl I’m probably wrong for this but when someone spams a trade request when I’m dumping my inventory and pulling it out of a quad tab, I’ll leave party and change my hideout to kick them out. Like just relax for 5 seconds my dude.
I’ve also had a guy complain that I had 2 trades happening at the same time. Like I’m not some exclusive to you broker my dude wait your turn.
The general level of impatience of people these days astound me
If you played warframe and used warframe.market this is one of their rules to prevent price fixing. If you list it, even as a mistake, you must sell it, or they ban you. Unreal
I had the reverse experience
I listed something for way more than the name of the tab, like 3div instead of 50ex
one dude whisper me to buy the thing and put the 3div in, me being me thinking i am an organized person i say “this is too much” thinking the price was 50ex
The buyer was like “huh ?” To then cancel the trade and restart it with 3div again
I recognized being stupid misreading my own listing and they didn’t even try to scam me while they definitely could have, we had a short laugh and said our goodbyes to live happily ever after as scamming was now a thing of the past, or so we thought for this moment
Enough time to prepare popcorn and enjoy the show
Thats crazy! Tab nap is meaningless, price matters. Lowkey i don’t even bother for anything that isn’t exact price. I dislike haggling at any level ever.
I think most people use b/o bc they’re unsure what it’s worth, if they overpriced it just offer them what you think is a fair price and if it’s reasonable they’ll usually accept it
Probably, but I don’t bother. I hate haggling, and as such will gladly miss out to avoid it.
That said, when someones first message is an offer below my asking i usually take it, cause its better than sitting longer in my book. The back and forth aspect is what I hate.
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Lol, I would have blocked him after the first few.
Lmfaooo
“Sorry buddy, price went up, tariffs hit PoE, too”
“irl it’s a felony” is super cringe, too.
Wouldn’t that be false advertising on his part anyway? lol
Yeah, what he is doing “irl it’s a felony”
I do not believe walking into a store, seeing an outrageously low listed price, and buying said item is a felony, maybe dumb on the stores part tho
Walking into a store, seeing a cheap item, and then getting ripped off at checkout is what’s happening here tho
A term for this is:
“bait and switch”.
And yea definitely gets moderated by many forces.
Your mistake was engaging with them after they said ‘offer?’
I usually just add to ignore as soon as they try that shit.
This is the way
Not even saying 50x + ur mom’s bj?
Tell them 40x don’t name the currency
Then trade them 40 Scroll of Wisdom and then block them and leave
aint nobody got time fo dat
Tons of new people without the proper poe etiquette, that’s why this happens a lot
It’s honestly just basic common sense
Especially since you have to mouse past “Negotiable Price” to get to “Exact Price”.
Dude is clearly hustling noobs or something.
It’s probably just effective is the annoying part. Selling an item for 1D then asking for 1D 30Ex when messaged probably works a fair bit. It’s either that or some fear he’s going to rip himself off and sell it too low.
Just one of many reasons direct P2P is frustrating.
It’s a bit weird though because on poe1 you can list for 1,5divines but on poe2 it’s just absolute numbers.
You have to switch to chaos to list properly or to a huge number of exalts - they have messed this up a bit
Also, negotiable price means that that’s your desired price but you are willing to go lower. Not that it’s the starting bid.
Nothing rarer than common sense
Its also strategically bad from a gaming perspective. Its not efficient. He’s not gonna sell much by doing this
youre talking about the guys price “fixing” it for 1div an asking for offers right?
right?
Its not just etiquette, its the widespread idiocy and greed.
Many people straight up jack up price on 5 day old item as soon as you whisper them
It can’t come soon enough when they just add in-game auction/trade so we don’t have fake bot listings or these kind of players. GGG needs to realise they were lucky PoE1 players used trade site as intended and it was barely tolerable, thats out the window now.
Sometimes It’s a whole world of difference between trading in poe 1 and poe 2. 10+ years of etiquette down the drain lol.
The system is working exactly as designed…
I thoroughly hate the fact that people do this. Why not change it off exact price if you want to start at a div? It’s frustrating to take your time looking for a piece of gear, even a temp piece like this, only to be ignored when you message the owner of the item, or asked for more.
P.S. that spiked spear isn’t worth a Div. I bought one close to this for 30 ex as my temp.
Even negotiable makes no sense. Negotiable means you are pricing higher, but willing to take lower offers. It doesn’t mean you get to price low and expect people to offer higher. There isn’t anything for that nor should there be. It’s just scummy practice.
That’s what I thought it meant. I list my trades as negotiable because I’m willing to go lower if it’s been sitting a while or the person is friendly.
It’s designed fRiCTioN
I was leveling a new character last night and had a ring listed for 3 divines in my stash from maps a few days ago. Some guy pinged me to buy it, as soon as I invite him to my party he offers a much lower price. I immediately left the party without saying a word back to him. He invited me back and completed the transaction for my listed price. I didn’t type a single word in this whole exchange.
That’s what I do lol.
See, if they add an auction house, we will miss out on all this valuable human interaction.
“*offer?*”
Truly a great experience, GGG. Thanks again for this.
Exhibit A of why you should be pro choice
tries to buy item for posted price
“You’re trying to scam me, this is a felony irl.”
This is what mental illnes looks like.
Should’ve said 20ex when he said “your offer”.
What makes it valuable? The accuracy?
High flat physical and high accuracy for range weapon. Too bad it needs 2 socket corrupt for additional flat or accuracy runes.
This is not a very good endgame spear. There are much better than this in 3-10div range.
for accuracy Amazon ascendancy playing LS, what spear stats to prioritize at around 1d? Always confused between accuracy, high phy %, flat phy, and lightning flat
Yeah the trade system is crap. - You should be able to just instant buy they items from other ppl, even if they are not online, the mats should just be in their inventory when they log in. - You should be able to buy stuff if you are not online. - The waiting, the price fixing, the ppl that randomly start cursing you out Those are the reasons i’m trying SSF this season.
Auction house or at least stalls when?
I’m pretty sure GGG said specifically they would not add an auction house because they want the interaction.
Trading was shit, is shit and will be shit if they do not get rid of the interactions
Offer?
“It is 4d now”
Had someone inquire about getting my 5ex armor for 3ex (Comparable items are selling for 40-50ex).
I was in an ascendancy boss fight so I didn’t respond for ~2 minutes.
By the time I was done (dead sadly), I had six messages ranging from “dude?” to full-on mental illness.
When I’m met by lovely community members like this, I say, “Sorry, I was AFK, did you still want this?” Then, immediately ignore.
Yeah guys the friction is so good
I swear God. Trading in this league is fuckn nightmare
everyone not FORCING GGG to make people honor their posted prices in SOME way (even if its not a true auction house) are the ones to blame…
If somethings listed for an ‘exact’ price it should have the option to buy it now and the item goes straight to say a ‘transaction’ tab in your own stash or something – it would prevent stupid shit like we see in the post.
This shit only happen in poe2, and it sucks
When you replace that phys rune with 2x Acc runes yeah you’ll end up with and 804 dps weapon. So it’s worth more than 1 div, but the suffixes are trash. It’s entirely reasonable to DM for this for 1 div, could have been someone who didn’t know what they had.
Don’t waste your time engaging with these guys though, once you knew it was a scam you should have done yourself the favour and blocked them.
Why say 2x accuracy runes when there’s only one slot.
GIVE US AN AUCTION HOUSE..problem solved
I love how this person not only thinks that somehow lowballing is a crime, but that it is also a felony.
The trading in this game is acomplete shitshow. Just bots, scammers and people that don’t answer.
Exactly why they need to just put an auction house in.
Reason #377 on why this game is better off with auction house over this stupid trading system.
I will offer something else if it’s been listed for awhile. A lot of people are happy to sell vs it just sitting in a stash.
I’m happy to sell items like this in PoE1. But In Poe2… something just ticks me off with the number of people who haggle on even freshly listed items that are already underpriced, to the point where if I get a haggle, I just don’t bother selling when they end up wanting to pay full price
Lol someone tried that with me on a 15 div bow a few weeks ago. Send DM from the tradesite and he comes back saying offer 15 div too low. I said fuck him and bought a better one from someone for 20 instead, linked him the bow and told him to list his for what hes actually selling it for next time.
It’s so weird to me, I often whisper people with set prices when I’m BROKE and offer what I can and I’d say 8⁄10 times they whisper back “Yea ok, that’s fine.” and trade it to me. If not, no problem, thank them and move on.
I’ve never seen anyone try to haggle on something they put as a set price and try to UP to price lmao. Just wild behavior.
This happens pretty frequently, usually they don’t message you about it though. They just don’t reply and then you see they upped the price in trade.
I always keep that trade search up and message them every 30mins or so, to keep jacking up their price so it takes them longer to sell the item.
I’m never saw this shit in poe1… never! This new players are out of mind.
Least 1 ex always the way to 2 ex probably.
These people are literally price fixing and trying to spin it on you.
Put their name in public trade and get everyone to whisper them.
We need an auction house so bad, poe2 is filled with noobs who don’t know how to trade.
That’s why it sucks to trade in poe 2. we need an auction house. Fixed prices and selling even offline… so simple
its an online felony!
A lot of people here seem confused why hed do that, to me it seems obvious its a scam of sorts? They list a nice item for a price, then claim all that and guilt trip the person to overpaying. My guess is they bet on people who have multiple chat channels open, and dont know how to remove one. Idk not a good plan but its either that or their just increibly stupid.
they list the item for cheap to be the first in the search results, once you send a whisper they reply with the “actual” value
Id like this spear- one exalted right? 😛
case of mental illness
Why even engage with these people? Just move along
I can’t even begin to fathom how miserable ppl like these are with their irl money (if they have any) if they’re that stingy with fake currency in a damn videogame.
Personally I just have 3 quad tabs with 50, 25, 10 exalts each and just dump everything first in the 50 exalt stash for a game session, and if nothing sells i keep going down until it reaches the 10 exalt tab, if nothing sells there I just sell for gold.
My point is I have sold stuff for 50 exalt that’s potentially more expensive but I rather lowball myself so i don’t have to deal with the market at all.
After they say “offer” what you do is not start a discussion, you just block them.
I wish there was a way to report these people.
I’ve realized a lot of people low price their good items to the lowest of a currency (e.g. 1 exalt, 1 div) in order to show up first in the trade site on search but they don’t want to sell the item at that price. They expect you to know that and offer them the “appropriate” price for it. I hate that…
I had the same thing yesterday. Boots listed at 25 ex. Sent whisper, got invite to party, then the guy said they were worth 2 div and i had to make a better offer. never dropped party and blocked so fast.
Whispered a guy to buy a spear listed for 1 ex, at his hideout he tells me it’s mislabeled and should be 10 ex…
Dude, it’s been listed a week and still unsold for 1 ex. I just wanted a shitty spear with a low cold modifier for a weapon swap…
I guess I should be happy someone replied at least
He is right,item is listed for 1d so should buy for 1div.
The spear is well, not so good..
You price the item with your desired value, buyer contacts you, you trade. At the end of the trade, you say ty or gl hf. Carry on with your day
I swear, new players have zero etiquete or respect when trading. It’s saddening to see how lacking in respect some people are.
My favorite part is where he’s trying to get 2d, but then tells you its value is 50 exalt XD
I had this happen the other day, asked for an item for 1d, he never responded. Kept looking and ended up messaging him a second time and he asked for 2d. F that, change your listing I didn’t come here to haggle.
lol he upped the price to 5 div now
Yes. One guy installed on selling me a gem he listed 10ex for 15ex.
Yea fuck the 5 people that did this to me for a tangletongue when I still haven’t gotten a div at like level 75 because the drops are actual ass still lol
I sell things for the price people buy them for. That simple. If it sits too long I lower price until it sells.
I havé a better one and didn’t know that I could sell it more than one div
Same.
I got a sad face reading this post lol
The appropriate reply when they asked for an offer would’ve been to tell them they listed it as exact price
You should report him
Nothing like people on PoE who overuse and don’t know what scamming means
Atleast he ignored you, dunno about you but my ignore list gets full fast from price fixers/scammers/spammers/mtx sellers…
Dude just ignore everyone who will say ”offer” and play with fun 😏
I’m brand new to POE2 and arpg’s in general.
Can someone explain to me how this is worth 1 div? Does increased light radius not nearly brick an item? Seems like a completely worthless affix that would 20% the value of an item. Thanks!
It’s light and accuracy in one.
I’m like 50% sure price fixers will respond this way to try and make there listings look legit to GGG or something
Trading can be a beautiful experience… But very often a nightmare
He is lowballing himself listing it at a value he views as lowball
Can’t tell you the amount of times I’ve had people message me for things and offer half the price it’s listed and when I give them some discount to what it’s listed for they say it’s too much. Like okay bye lmao
Does this happen a lot? I just beat the game the first time and was thinking purchasing a weapon would help me through my second playthrough but I really don’t want to deal with people like this.
oh don’t worry about that! your mapping starter set is gonna be in the range of a few exalted orbs, and this far into a league most people don’t even bother to leave a map to sell an item only worth a few ex.
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Just play ssf
I would have blocked him 1 second after he said “offer?”.
Ok, I’m relatively New with POE (just about 300h in POE2). Is my understanding wrong of exact and the other price setting ? Thanks In advance
And if so, how do I get to know, or what do I have to learn for the “right” price ?
I whisper these mfs and make them lose their time just for the love of the game
Poe1 trade story, but I had some mirrors but had to break off one to buy some gems for double corruptions. So sold one mirror at 790 divs instead of 805 which was the current cheapest price and there were many listings at that.
Many guys whispered me at the same time. And like the 5th guy sent me death threats because apparently there was no chance that he was not the first whisperer. He question marked me after 10 secs and I told him that it was already sold as I invited the first guy. Unlike he suggested, my family is still safe.
Too much human interaction
50 div for a spear without suffixes 😂
I don’t mind if people offer me a negotiated price. Sometimes I have shit sitting in my trade tab that nobody is buying and I forgot about, but there’s two things you gotta do to approach someone about it.
A. Be upfront about it. Don’t wait for me to invite, leave my map, and open up a trade screen before doing it.
B. Don’t get upset if the answer is no.
That’s not what happened here at all though
You know very well that’s actually worth like 15 ex.
I could see this as 1 divine if it was a seaglass spear, but since the crit chance is so low I would buy this for like 40 exalt
Get him banned on tft
**laughs in ssf**
lol
I suppose nobody is going to send that guy any whispers now, right…?
Agreed. I’ve had some respond asking for more than listed.
Then I’ve had one who i whispered to buy their gloves for 2ex. They invite, i got to hideout, trade, they put up item, I put up 2ex, they decline and leave…. after whispering what’s wrong they tell me 2div…
Homie you listed for 2ex and invited me based on that assumption.
Yeah it sucks, this happens far too often. There is an issue where you can only put integers and not 1,5 divines for instance but I am sure this guy didn’t go for the fractions
did you talk to yourself in the chat.. or did i miss something?
That’s a good spear for a div. I got smth similar for 2 divs. Atk speed honestly doesn’t matter. And should be avoided in lieu of other stats
And here I am almost feeling bad that I sold items in a Dutch auction type of style. But this seems way worse.
Don’t waste even 1d on this trash,just use a Tangletongue,even with a 18% roll it’s way better
Not even worth 50ex
Someone send this reddit post to Ravemood pls
I messaged him and offered 1 div, he replied “okay buddy, illl write your name down and remember you. Hf”
So tired of this silly janky trade function. Hoping for either a real AH, or better crafting so I can go SSF and be done with this kind of nonsense.
Funny, I have basically the same spear listed for 5ex and it isn’t selling.
Yes that spear is actually just not good enough other
Like, “alright cool, what is the exact price then?”
Was trying to buy an amulet the other day with exact price of 1d and the seller was not responding. So at some point after clicking on it many time I asked “are you even gonna sell”. Got the reply “not at that price”and so I asked whether I can buy it for 5d, and they said it was a lowball offer. I swear people are stupid. Why set exact if not exact.
Ended up putting them on ignore because I figured if this person had other items up for sale then they will similarly be a pain in the ass. And also found a way better amulet after a few hours.
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This would not exist, if we got a proper 2025 trade system, like an in-game auction house. Just saying…
They need to add market system. I hate going to a website to find item I need and then go back to back and talk to them.
Irl we call people like this dumbasses.
Happened twice already with me. Itens postes for 10 ex, when you put to buy they said 100 ex.
Poe trade site experience.
Got ignored in game so you brought your drama here? :/
Well .. any one here got free shit to give ??? I’ll take it …. Also … why the hell am I not getting almost no map drop…..
Send screenshots into trade discords so he gets banned on there. You will prob need a screenshot of the listed spear aswell
A lot of people don’t recognize the trader etiquette either. Buyer teleports to seller hideout, buyer waits for seller to send the trade. A lot of buyers immediately send the trade when you get back to your hideout… like bro chill I have to find the item first.
What I do in these situations is find the highest value item a price fixer has and offer. Then tell them no thanks. It’s funny shit
Prices are actually crazy :/
Gotta love that friction. And always remember “an AH would be bad for the game”.
trade bad
Saying IRL it’s a felony is crazy.
First of all no it’s not. You can list something for whatever you want, doesn’t mean you have to stick to the price. It’s only when the transaction happens that you are bound by the terms. It’s also not a scam, because you didn’t pay for the object. It would be a scam if you paid for object A and instead of getting object A you got object B.
This is SCUMMY, but it’s not illegal (in real world or game world) and it’s NOT a scam.
Add an auction hall ggg.
And not some simple shit either. It has to be built with resistance to market manipulation and scamming.
This is completely normal, even in POE 1. If the seller said to offer, and you don’t want to pay more than the displayed price, then don’t offer and just move on since the seller clearly doesn’t want to sell it for 1 div. Also, the spear is worth at least 7 up to 10 divs maybe even 12 at peak hours.