The Ringer & ESPN been hating on Luka since 2023, trying to gaslight people that Tatum & every upcoming new star is on his level lmao

Hell the Nico hate died down and the chubby boy talk picked up as soon an Luka lost

Steph

Steph Curry. He doesn’t get any hate

ya, I spent the entire video thinking… is this true? I mean, if you’re in that top 5 - 10 range, this is the game

especially if you’ve been at that level for years, you’ve won and have high expectations, and you’re older than 23. if all those things are true, like they are for tatum and a bunch of others, this is what you get

Jokic

Bro winning a ring usually causes a grace period before they’re critiqued again

Tbh not this badly. Series is not even over and many videos trashing him have been shared on this sub. Giannis and Kawhi for example were not hated this much

Ant might not be quite on the same level but I’ve seen very little mention that he’s missed his last 15 3s or that he’s had consecutive poor games

Celtics fans basically can’t stand the fact that nobody gives a fck about Tatum & nobody considers him an MVP caliber player, so they start comparing him to better players & rank him higher than he should be, & when he shits the bed (like multiple times in the last few years), a circlejerk is obviously inevitable, thats when they start wondering why he’s hated

Just don’t overrate him & shove his ass down in people throats & he won’t get hate

Sports fans just hate guys who are corny and inauthentic. He’s the lite version of Russ Wilson; good dad, says all the right PR things, but just something about their personality just screams fake. Russ is definitely worse with all the other shit that he did (teammates not having his phone number, having his own office, etc) but they are both right there in terms of how corny they are lol

Singular Boston fans all the way to Boston sports media conglomerate all are the same. They are the main reason people dislike their team and players, and smart fans are not susceptible to their gaslighting and overrating of their players

Tatum is the NBA’s Russel Wilson. Stats were always good. Won some big games. At the end of the day though just not in the top tier.

Ngl waiting for Ant to go through this cycle.

Russillo is really good at reading and explaining trends in sports he’s my favorite for many reasons but this always specifically impressed me

Yeah shut up science bitch

For me it’s just a fuck Boston thing. Tatum could be a Bruins player in a league I don’t watch and I’d be like get a load of this fuckin guy

That’s definitely a big part of it, but its also that he’s just not cool. Jaylen Brown is cool. Donovan Mitchell is cool. Ant is cool. Jokic is cool in his own way. Brunson is cool. Even Haliburton cool in an extremely corny way. He’s got his thing and he owns it. Tatum just isn’t cool. He doesnt know what his thing is. He doesnt have a thing. He’s the kid in school who copied how other people dressed and was constantly concerned about whether he looked cool, and everyone could tell.

this is actually totally fair though thank you

Out of all the takes of people trying to convince themselves of whatever it is in this thread, I respect this the most.

At least you’re honest with yourself about it with no ass backward takes about it that contradicts itself

For me it’s… he plays on the highest paid roster ever…. Est front office ever… and ppl still don’t like his game. Like we can’t all be wrong

Thats the answer.

All this time some celtics fans saying that Tatum is better than the top4 and not delivering like a top4 consistently, because he is view as the 5th guy in the whole world, jokic, Shai, Luka, giannis ahead of him only, but that aint enough because his team has the best top6 in the league.

oh he’s gonna show everybody and win mvp after getting benched in the Olympics…. Didn’t even make final 3

Ryan was on Bills pod agreeing with Tatum over Giannis and now is shocked about pushback?

I’ve genuinely never seen these sorts of takes on this sub. Can you link any?

yeah whoever this dude is he’s clueless

Don’t forget him asking why he isn’t the face of the league when he’s never even been close to the best player in the league

Ryen says “the last personality” and yeah, he’s not offensive. But he’s also just the single most bland as fuck personality. Kawhi is a robot, hahaha, weird dude sure, but Tatum is literally like nothing. He’s so smoothed off he doesn’t seem to actually have anything and I find it easy to think “wtf?” with that lack of engagement.

We can see Kawhi cares, I can’t see anything from Tatum. So that’s annoying.

I mean it’s way more fun to make fun of someone for being corny than a rapist 

I mean this is a chicken and egg story. You could argue people overhype him in response to the over the top hate he gets.

I cant talk for other people but I enjoy to hate on him to my Celtics friends only because he’s a 6’8 athletic freak and still chooses to step back 3 at the worst times.

Obviously a simplification but even just the team he’s in, I dont think he needs to take those types of shots. There will always be a better shot.

I wonder how many people actually hate Tatum or just see others doing it so they latch on to feel like they belong.

Not to take away from any of the actual valid criticisms of Tatum (which trust me, are at the fucking top of my mind rn), but this is why NBA discourse is shit. Fans can’t complain about how the media stoops lower and lower to get clicks and simultaneously rationalize why they do the same shit. You can always rationalize. “I hate JT because he’s corny.” “I hate Shai because he shoots free throws.”

Real comments in this thread are rationalizing hating on Tatum because “Celtics fans try to argue he’s better than players that are actually better than him” like Jokic and Giannis, as if that’s some universal justification. It’s not illegal to hate on athletes, but it’s also not your responsibility just because you have a bone to pick.

It’s depressing to engage in. Same thing happened when Shai caught his wave of hate earlier this year for the ethical buckets thing. I know the build up to tear down cycle is a part of sports to some degree but it’s become exhausting. We’ve been through this “overrated / underrated” discourse cycle with Tatum like three separate times this year, and none of it is productive or interesting. I dont really have a good solution other than just opting out of the discussion entirely.

Crabs in a barrel mentality

it’s really sad, life is so short and choosing it to be miserable is crazy

I’m ok with people always arguing who is better and what not but it’s just magnified online. He’s one of like 35 to ever average over 30 ppg and people here are arguing whether he is good or not. If he keeps bringing us to the playoffs every year that’s a pretty nice skill floor for me, he hasn’t missed yet.

This part.

When I try to explain to my dad (huge basketball and NBA fan, just not online whatsoever) and he is literally dumbfounded - and actually just doesn’t even believe me and argues back that I’m exaggerating lol - when I say that Tatum is shit on a looot, bc he’s literally never seen it and has always had the total opposite impression of how the guy is viewed.

Tatum needs a completely hatable sidekick like curry has draymond to deflect all the hate to. Maybe that will make him more likable.

This is 100% it, and that’s totally fine. I don’t know any Celtics fans who actually watch who think he’s better than the top three guys in the league. There was some belief that he was #3 this year ahead of Giannis, but I think that was happening when he was on his annual shooting heater. He’s probably the fourth or fifth best player if you factor in defense and availability (Luka being the pivot point there, depending upon your opinion). I’d accept arguments of him being 4-8.

He’s a great player and he’s playing like shit this series. He deserves some shit about that. But the level of schadenfreude is based off him being a Celtic.

That’s because no one tries to argue that JB is a top 5 player and that he’s better than Luka, Shai, Giannis, and Jokic. Tatum did this exact same thing last year, at least JB rightfully won Finals MVP.

Torrey Craig is worse than both Tatum and Brown, and he doesn’t even get any criticism!

Brown has even more of dislikeable personality lol

But yeah a lot of it is Celtics hate + Generic star player hate. If Jokic/Curry, who Id argue are the 2 most popular players on the sub, have a stinker you know 5 seconds after that a hate post is going to be posted

Brown at least has his Iguodala-esque Finals MVP to fall back on and isn’t really expected to be a top 20 player in the league despite what some may say 

No one says jaylen brown is better than luka or giannis

Ehh I strongly disagree. Ant rarely gets any hate lol Tatum gets more hate than any other player in the NBA

Hold up when do ANT ever get flamed????? Dude been mid this whole playoffs yet people don’t ever bring up he been a pack of ass the past two games.

Tatum is the only NBA star that gets personal off-court attacks thrown at him for his on-court issues. The closest you can get is people saying Luka’s lack of effort on defense is some kind of personal failing or that he’s drunk or out of shape but it’s not as rabid or vindictive after every single bad game

Doesn’t Ja, Zion and Ant have messy personal lives that have turned fans against them like Ant having multiple kids in one year and Ja Morant brandishing guns on social media? Before that, both Ja & Ant were beloved and I remember the NBA and fans were actively pushing for Ant to be the the next face of the league.

Tatum doesn’t have those off the court issues that the players I mentioned have. Plus, he has actually won a championship (yes I know he has a good team around him).

This is the most ironic statement I’ve ever read on here.

Wearing the purple and gold Kobe armband while playing for the fucking Boston Celtics was ultra corny

People loved Isaiah Thomas all over the league when he was in Boston.

Pierce wasn’t hated like this.

People didn’t hate Kyrie like this.

It’s Tatum even though I do believe people irrationally hate Boston for sport—that’s not why this happens.

That’s an issue in its own right.

Duncan had less personality

well i hate AT&T