[Wright] “Jayson Tatum is the Kobe Bryant of Paul George’s.”
God damn, it is OPEN SEASON on Tatum lmfao
Somebody is gonna call him “Jason Tater” 😂🥔
JSON Scrotum
Damn 2 bad games 2 nuts 🥜
Jason Tain’t-him.
Potatum
I saw this somewhere made me laugh: Brick Mamba
I feel like it’s Paul George catching strays here while he’s sitting at home in front of his podcast equipment lmao
Paul George from his desk chair
“how could devin booker do this”
I thought it was kinda a backhanded compliment, like Tatum isn’t even PG, he’s the next best thing to PG.
Nah it definitely a “hes the best version of PG” thing
But that would be the Michael Jordan of Paul Georges…
the michael jordan of paul georges is kevin durant
Who is the Paul George of Paul Georges?
Tobias Harris
BANG! BAAAAAAANG
Tracy Mcgrady without the lore.
No, Tracy McGrady is the Bill Walton of Paul Georges.
He’s saying Tatum is even better at the PG archetype than PG
No, it’s a dig at PG even if unintentional.
Basically, what this means is that PG is very good, but not great. So Tatum is one of the best “very good” players, but he’s in no conversation as a great.
So he’s basically calling PG a whole tier down, so depending on what you think about PG, it sounds about right or it’s slightly insulting.
The series isn’t even over yet my God haha
Losing the first 2 at home usually means it’s over tbh
60 win team is no joke. I could see them winning two back. Same for the Cavs.
Agreed. I want us to finish Cleveland at home because I know they could easily still win this series if we let them hang around.
KAT was discussing in his post game interview how last year they took the first two from Denver at Denver, and the series went back to Denver 2-2 so he knows that a 2-0 lead isn’t safe
They still won tho
His point is that it isn’t a guarantee or will be easy when going up against legit teams. I HATE Boston just as much as the biggest hater, but I can’t call them frauds.
Pretty sure the Stat they shot up on the screen last night was that teams that win the first 2 playoff games away win the series 87.5% of the time.
So the person calling you a casual is either joking or….
Celtics came back from 0-3 to tie it against a tougher team IMO…
and then what happened
Tatum rolled his ankle in the 1q
He got injured in like the first 20 seconds of game 7
That Miami team was far worse then this Knicks team. They were only up cos you guys bricked like this Knicks series AND Miami shot ridiculous well it was the all time outkier shooting series . Knicks just shot ok nothing special
Yeah, the way people are talking you would think the Knicks just finished the series in a sweep. Last year, the Knicks (granted they had injuries) were up 2-0 and then 3-2 on the Pacers and lost the series.
Honestly, as someone who only starts to seriously watch the NBA when the playoffs start the whole Tatum discourse just makes the sport as a whole seem ridiculous when it boils down to “being the 5th best player in the sport means you aren’t good enough” and this is after the dude WON A CHAMPIONSHIP LAST YEAR. I can’t imagine that kind of thing happening discourse wise to this extreme in any of the other major sports.
Yeah, but Knicks won their first 2 home games. They were the higher seed. It’s more difficult going into game 3 in a hostile arena already down 2-0.
Normally I’d agree but for some reason this Celtics team only plays good on the road, they’ve sucked at home in the playoffs for years
The reactionary takes are at an all time high, though I’m sure that Luka is happy the crosshairs are off him and he can go back to getting drunk at the hookah bar
This sounds like a compliment? Like he’s an all time great version of a very good player
You know damn well that’s not a compliment lmao
The fact that “elite player version of a Hall of Fame player” is somehow meant to be an insult is a good indicator of how fucking stupid NBA discourse is.
I think it just means PG isn’t clutch
I figured it just meant “Fuck the stats, I still don’t like him.”
Playoff P and the last 3-4 years have finally proven haters right, I guess, but the Paul George vitriol has existed clear back to the Indiana days. When dude was an elite 2 way player, was at least kinda challenging the Heatles in the playoffs, and pulling in All NBA awards with DPOY and MVP consideration.
Do you think PG is a Hall of fame player?
He will almost certainly make the Hall.
9x All-Star
6x All-NBA
4x All-Defense
Gold Medal
Yes because the basketball HOF is pretty generous
Yeah it’s crazy how much easier it is to get into the basketball HOF than the football or baseball one. There’s a dude even making the case that PG is a first ballot, which is nuts compared to what a first ballot HOFer looks like in those sports.
Paul George is an absolute lock to make the Hall of Fame, and will probably make it first ballot.
Definitely of a backhanded compliment lmao
It’s Paul George. That shit is not a compliment.
I just don’t understand why every Tatum neg turns into this weird strawman where people act like Celtics fans prop him up as the best player in the league. Wright tries to argue against that point in this very clip.
Who is arguing that? AFAIK, Tatum has never received a First (or second) place MVP vote, he’s never been seen as better than Jokic or even Giannis by any rational fan, Tatum didn’t win Conference OR Finals MVP last year.
I get it, people don’t like Boston fans. But it’s weird the lengths people will go down to tear down an already flawed player the second they smell blood in the water. All this for a guy who is genuinely one of the better humans in the league and who’s biggest sin is being corny and not having “aura”.
Last week people were saying he’s better than Luka………
If you listen to bill he pretty much has put Tatum constantky as hard as he can as good as anyone but jokic . And nobody pushed back on him. So not the best but top 2-3 is even too much . I see this a lot he’s got three first teams n never plays like it minus team record . Bill argued all year for him over Giannis
I just don’t understand why every Tatum neg turns into this weird strawman where people act like Celtics fans prop him up as the best player in the league.
Yeah that was a really weird angle for him to take. There are definitely a ton of Celtics homers who claim he’s top 3, which I think is equally absurd, though that’s probably just a function of having a big and passionate fanbase- Knicks and Lakers homers say just as much dumb shit.
If you think this is bad, can you imagine if they didn’t win the finals last year
Kind of feel like the fact he didn’t win finals MVP gave people more ammunition.
This sub has been waiting for this moment
JT: What they gon say now?
They:
Did JT really copy that Steph Curry line? Bro has 0 personality
He copied every post championship moment he tried lol. It was unbelievably corny and as if he rehearsed it.
He 100% did haha
Because he did.
If it sounds like a duck, walks like a duck and looks like a duck… it’s a duck
WEEE DIDDD ITTTTT
Here ya go.
damn that was a hard watch
He copied kevin garnet, curry, even kanye on his post chip media tour
Not to mention that kobe pic either
It was so sauceless 😭
And kobe
Top YouTube comment is
Bro googled “what to say if you win a championship”
Lmao what a weirdo
He named his kid shit.
Doesn’t even take into account his Kobe Bryant pictures holding the trophy
How tf are you gonna watch 5 seconds of the 2 minute video and make this statement when it’s literally the NEXT clip
Its the next clip in the same video
He’s like a TikTok brain rot kid for classic NBA moments, it’s like his tick
Curry copied LeBron lol
https://youtu.be/40aM1_87AXM?si=yVRp6CCCby0LEWb3
In fairness, Steph copied it from a Halo 2 commercial.
Everyone copied everything if you’re gonna go that far. The thing with Tatum is he was copying extremely popular lines from NBA players that happened a couple of years ago.
The Simpsons did it
That one was especially egregious considering curry said it after whooping tatum himself in the Finals lmao
At the end of the day everything is a derivation of Aesop’s fables
Also copied KG with the “We did it” and copied Kanye with “I guess we’ll never know”
“What they gonna say now?” when the obvious reply from the haters was “win the FMVP next time”
Truly an assterclass in post-championship gloating
Charisma: 0
Better than the michael jordan of tobias harrises at least
Don’t disrespect my GOAT
Harris played much better D against KAT than Tatum.
That one at least makes me laugh though
This is the funniest one. The other analogies don’t hit the same
Who even is the Michael Jordon of Tobias Harrises?
it was said about Tatum lol
Carmelo Anthony
Paul George
the nba might have the worst media in all of sports
Sports media in general suck ass but yeah NBA is p4p one of the worst
At least NFL talks about the actual game.
Yes, even if its quarterback-centric, it rarely leans into this armchair psychiatry, between-the-ears not between-the-lines analysis.
That’s only been lately. Up until Mahomes, NFL discussion & analysis overall was incredibly more balanced & nuanced than the NBA
they had less personalities to deal with in the past since people didn’t see their faces as much but once that started changing they shifted the same way. basketball has been about player personalities much longer
That’s because the NBA is so star-driven. People want to talk about LeBron and Tatum and Curry, not the Lakers, Celtics, or warriors.
Only because no one bothers learning about any names of that many players
Might? First take had a hockey player openly shitting on the nba product after all star weekend.
Shit is pathetic.
And they purposely got a black athlete at that to save face. Nasty work
Just like it has the worst online fanbase🤷♂️
Do you see how this sub is? Why would there be any incentive for NBA media to be better when the state of online discourse between fans is even worse?
You have not seen MMA fans then.
First things first is usually one of the better media shows when it comes to sports discussion but when Nick wright feels his point is being proven, he can get as performative as Stephen A and others
Only difference is that when he gives his spiel, Wildes and/or Broussard audibly groan in his face
cmon. stephen actually rants when he says stuff like this acting all serious for rage bait. nick is basically laughing through all of this and taking the piss
NBA media are collectively the Antoine Walkers of Mahmoud Abdul-Raufs
Absolutely, any loss by any team immediately invites exaggerated hate. It’s rarely about praising the winning team and if it is, it’s for the wrong reasons.
What is wrong with this opinion
Never follow Spanish football
The NBA media is so bad that I’m gonna have to defend… Jayson Tatum 🤢
Sydney Sweeney is the Anne Hathaway of Angela White’s
Undeniably out of pocket
Delightfully distasteful
If anyone is wondering who angela white is, she’s a reporter for BBC
Wow I just watched one of her interviews, she really knows how to treat her guests!
She has no idea how to use a microphone
Oh I’d say she knows exactly how to use a microphone
Atleast my TV license is being put to good use
Hey. I looked both of those up and now my pants hurt.
what gives?!?!
Why did I actually fall for that for a second
This is true. Google “Angela White BBC” for more info
Crazy how you were in your bag here
Thanks, my step mom loves me
Have your arms healed?
Was gonna say every fuckin’ thread but honestly it’s been a while since i saw this.
I refuse to accept this Angela White slander
Modern day Gianna Michaels imo, generational talent
Angela White started in the industry a year before Gianna Michaels, she just didn’t go full throttle until years later.
That’s actually crazy. I feel like Angela White became a big name just a few years ago. I wonder what happened that she went from being unknown in the industry for such a long time to everyone now knowing who she is.
Soft -> Hard switch probably, with years of fan base following over as a head start in popularity.
Her first prime was in the BB days
Angela White disrespect smh
Somebody asked Angela White is she wanted to be the next Jenna Jameson. Or the next Linda Loveless. Or the next Traci Lords. She said no: She wanted to be the first Angela White.
Angela White is the Sandra Bullock of Sydney Sweeneys, more like
Undeniably better analysis than whatever tf nick wright is saying here.
White is on a different elite level
The Kobe Bryant of something? He probably appreciates the compliment.
L take when he doesn’t even have a podcast
He doesnt even have a helicopter.
Oof bruh
You’re really seeing the generation gap in this thread. I think every older Millennial and older immediately understood what Nick was saying was a diss. Because we understand what the “Kobe of” means to mean (as great a player as he was), the next best copy. That’s no diss to Kobe, he’s a top 10 player of all time, but it’s an objective statement that the way he played was basically Jordan, but not quite as good.
I feel like younger people put Kobe on the same pantheon as Jordan so they don’t understand what Nick is trying to say here.
I didn’t take it as a diss, I took at as a slight but because he said “he wants to be Kobe but is the Kobe of Paul George’s” I am a younger millennial though & I thought it was him saying “Tatum is the best of Paul George’s”
It’s like telling a girl she’s a “Miami 7” or “Idaho 10”. Like the person is saying you’re very pretty but you’re not “top tier”. Backhanded compliment, but in this case it’s a fair description
Well Nick Wright is the Jayson Tatum of Skip Baylesses
Nick Wright is the Michael Jordan of Skip Baylesses. The best to do it out of a pretty shitty sports media archetype.
no, Skip is the Michael Jordan of Skip Bayless’s. Nick Wright could never pull off some of what Skip has.
You’re not adjusting for pace!
What’s their hot take per 100 segment ratio
Yeah Skip’s impact is undeniable, I think a lot of modern “rings culture” and hating can be traced back to him shitting on LeBron constantly
First Things First at least try to integrate a bit of fun into their segments with their tier lists and bud list etc.
Undisputed and First Take are basically just all the hosts taking turns speaking absurdly loudly to the camera with no real interaction.
Nah, outside of LeBron and Mahomes, his takes are mostly fine, imo.
Oh, and I guess the fact he took so long to join the Jokic party wasn’t great.
He has done a complete 180 on Jokic and always praises him now, which is nice.
But him calling Jokic the worst MVP ever will forever be one of the worst takes of all time lol
TBF he said that in 2021 and Jokic’s rise was random asf back then lol
He also said “and I know that the history is going to prove me right on this”. He was doubling down at the time like crazy.
He hams it up as a tv personality but he’s actually pretty knowledgeable and down to earth outside his tv persona
Same guy who said Cavs beat the Warriors in 5 during the 2017 finals lol.
What do you mean outside of LeBron? It’s not a crime to think LeBron is the goat
Many people have forgotten how good peak Paul George was. 3rd in MVP voting and one of the most elite 2 way player.
Well LeBron was injured that year and Steph and KD were disqualified from being too high in MVP talks because they played together. It was definitely a good year for PG but then he got the belt from Dame in the playoffs lol
Yeah but to be fair it was a bad shot
As they should. You can quantify any accolade like this. He peaked as a very high level 2way player no question about it.
3rd in MVP at their absolute peak is the point of this comparison
Eh he had a great year but it was Giannis/Harden, then a big gap, and then PG. After the injury where he missed some time, nobody thought he was MVP. A lot of people thought KD or Jokic should’ve been third that year.
First time I heard Jokic being talked about lol
As happy as I am as a Knicks fan, this is such an odd wave of hatred for a player who isn’t a dickhead and who anyone would kill to have added to their team.
Super lame that if a guy isn’t vying for a mount rushmore spot, he is talked about like hes Pat Beverly claiming the next 5 years are his.
fr he seems like a chill guy i dont like hating on ppl who arent asshats
He’s the Russell Wilson of the NBA
He’s the best player on the team that won the championship the previous year and is collapsing in the 2nd round.
Let’s not pretend like the media and fans haven’t done this or worst to Westbrook, Kyrie, KAT, LeBron, Harden. Hell, Paul George literally being used as an insult
That why I mentioned it in the last part. Hes not the first and its something that has gotten way worse last 5 years. Media and fans are both responsible for this nephew ass approach to this eras greats.
What happened to Westbrook was even more ridiculous.
As someone that’s rooting for the Knicks, all this slander already has me feeling like he’s bout to drop back to back 40 point games in MSG…..
He won’t don’t worry.
U say that like he didn’t give the reigning champ bucks 46 to save that series.. gave Kd and Embiid teams 50, y’all so disrespectful lol
“I don’t care if the Celtics come back to win the championship”
This is just dumb though. Like if Tatum gets back to his game and plays like he did against Orlando and does in fact lead the Celtics to the promised land, then you can’t just be like “two bad games against the Knicks he’s not top 5”.
LeBron had what 5 or 6 bad games against the Mavericks, does that mean he never enters the GOAT conversation? Of course not.
In fairness there are PLENTY of people who would tell you Lebrons bad games against the Mavs disqualify him
he’s almost certainly assuming if they do win, it’ll be because someone other than Tatum steps up
This dude looks a lot like an almond can’t explain how
i’ve always thought he looks elven. like a skyrim npc or something
It’s his fucking shit haircut I have no idea why he thinks this looks good
Tatum distracting media from coming at my boy ant man. Thank you Jason tater 🙏. We will take care of business tonight so you are on your own.
The amount of Ant > Tatum takes I’ve seen is crazy.
Like don’t get me wrong, I love Ant. It’s just the inconsistency in these haters is jarring
Kevin Wildes reactions are hilarious
“Don’t go Jayson Waterfalls” is pretty funny
The hypothetical best version of Paul George is probably a top 5 player tho.
Yeah that’s what Tatum is. The 5th best player in the NBA.
OKC Paul George definitely wins a ring last year as well on Celtics. Probably FMVP.
Exactly, Tatum isn’t a bum. It’s just that he’s not an ATG at the position. He’ll probably be HoF by the end of it, but he’s not some level above everyone like a prime Steph, LeBron, Jokic, etc..
He’s very good, but not the most clutch despite trying to play like he is. I think that hurts him. There’s times where you’re painfully aware that he was a big Kobe fan. Also, the team around him helps a lot and people question if he actually raises their floor that much. In all, he’s a top-10 player but never really in the running for the best in the league. Not a bad place to be.
wtf does this even mean? Wright sucks
He’s at the top of the elite list of players that aren’t generational players
He explained it. He‘s like Paul George, but the Kobe Bryant of Paul Georges. Meaning hes better than Paul George at doing what Paul George does, who was initially Kobe’s biggest fan and tried to be like Kobe. Tatum is also trying to be like Kobe, but hes better at it than Paul George. But he’s also still not Kobe.
Made sense to me. But this is also the first time Ive listened to Nick Wright because I usually ignore him since he does seem to be of the sensationalist types of reporters.
It does make sense though.
This is brutal to tatum AND george LOL
Sports talk is fucking stupid and you are a nerd if you like this shit
Who has ever said Tatum is the best player in the nba? Anyone?
I think he is an underrated overrated underrated player
Disrespectful to paul George
I imagine Joe sitting Tatum down infront of a tv, and instead of having him watch film, he’s having him watch all these talk show blowhards talk their shit about him. And Joe’s just standing there behind him, his arms crossed, eyes always on Tatum’s back, watching to see if his blood starts boiling.
The lowest form of sports conversations right there.
Why is bro getting roasted so hard? What did he do