Team	Q1	Q2	Q3	Q4	Total
Oklahoma City Thunder	30	31	30	29	120
Memphis Grizzlies	28	27	23	25	103

Team	PTS	FG	FG%	3P	3P%	FT	FT%	OREB	TREB	AST	PF	STL	TO	BLK
Oklahoma City Thunder	120	44-87	50.6%	15-36	41.7%	17-19	89.5%	3	46	27	22	10	11	4
Memphis Grizzlies	103	37-91	40.7%	9-34	26.5%	20-22	90.9%	11	55	21	18	9	15	1


Oklahoma City Thunder	MIN	PTS	FGM-A	3PM-A	FTM-A	ORB	DRB	REB	AST	STL	BLK	TO	PF	±
Luguentz Dort^SF	33:42	3	1-7	1-7	0-0	0	4	4	3	1	0	1	4	35
Jalen Williams^PF	35:29	20	7-17	1-6	5-5	0	5	5	9	2	1	4	3	21
Isaiah Hartenstein^C	28:08	10	5-9	0-0	0-0	2	13	15	2	3	1	0	3	17
Cason Wallace^SG	19:27	4	2-3	0-1	0-0	0	4	4	1	1	0	1	1	-20
Shai Gilgeous-Alexander^PG	34:42	41	14-25	3-5	10-10	0	2	2	8	2	0	4	5	19
Aaron Wiggins	30:07	16	6-9	3-4	1-2	0	1	1	3	1	0	0	0	20
Jaylin Williams	19:00	13	4-4	4-4	1-2	0	4	4	0	0	2	0	1	0
Isaiah Joe	15:34	8	3-7	2-6	0-0	1	2	3	1	0	0	1	2	4
Kenrich Williams	12:39	0	0-3	0-1	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	-9
Ousmane Dieng	08:37	5	2-3	1-2	0-0	0	1	1	0	0	0	0	1	0
Adam Flagler	01:14	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	-2
Chet Holmgren	00:00	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Branden Carlson	00:00	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Alex Caruso	00:00	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Alex Ducas	00:00	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Dillon Jones	00:00	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Ajay Mitchell	00:00	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Nikola Topić	00:00	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Memphis Grizzlies	MIN	PTS	FGM-A	3PM-A	FTM-A	ORB	DRB	REB	AST	STL	BLK	TO	PF	±
Jaylen Wells^SF	25:50	3	0-5	0-5	3-4	2	3	5	1	1	0	2	1	-18
Vince Williams Jr.^PF	24:57	12	5-12	1-7	1-1	0	3	3	2	1	0	1	2	-9
Zach Edey^C	19:50	6	3-8	0-0	0-0	4	5	9	0	1	0	1	1	-10
Desmond Bane^SG	32:54	15	5-14	1-3	4-5	0	6	6	1	1	1	1	1	2
Ja Morant^PG	31:42	24	8-22	2-9	6-6	0	3	3	6	1	0	5	5	-21
Luke Kennard	17:32	2	1-4	0-2	0-0	0	2	2	4	0	0	1	0	-31
Brandon Clarke	26:40	13	5-7	0-0	3-3	3	8	11	2	1	0	1	2	-9
Marvin Bagley III	14:57	3	1-2	1-2	0-0	0	2	2	0	0	0	0	1	-9
Scotty Pippen Jr.	21:03	15	6-9	2-3	1-1	1	4	5	3	3	0	3	2	10
GG Jackson	19:33	6	2-7	2-3	0-0	1	2	3	2	0	0	0	3	4
Lamar Stevens	01:14	2	1-1	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	2
Cam Spencer	01:14	2	0-0	0-0	2-2	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	2
Jay Huff	01:14	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	2
Santi Aldama	00:00	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Jaren Jackson Jr.	00:00	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Yuki Kawamura	00:00	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
John Konchar	00:00	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Zyon Pullin	00:00	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0

MikeDCollector | Thunder

164 | 3 days ago

SGA MVP

552SD__ | Lakers

14 | 3 days ago

Definitely.

Not to go all first take, But Who is better, SGA or Luka? I’m leaning toward the latter due to the passing/playmaking, but SGA’s scoring efficiency is crazy. A guard averaging 30+ over 50% FG is ridiculous. Has anyone done that since MJ?

OKC2023champs | Thunder

39 | 3 days ago

I’d personally take SGA in a redraft over Luka. But it’s one of those times where you’re really not gonna go wrong. And it depends on the team he’s surrounded by.

everpresentdanger | Thunder

30 | 3 days ago

The best argument for Shai in a redraft is availability and potential longevity.

The highest of Luka’s highs have been better than Shai.

PatoNani | West

2 | 3 days ago

Might be true but I’m sure we haven’t seen the best of Shai yet (maybe also not from Luka at 26 years of age). It feels like Thunder’s rebuilding process in their tanking era plus injuries delayed his transition into a superstar. Nevertheless he needs a deep playoff run to challenge or surpass Luka’s highs and I’m sure he will be locked in the playoffs. For now his regular season clears every Doncic regular season.

MQZ01 | Warriors

0 | 3 days ago

Didn’t Luka average 34/9/10 last year? Hard to say Shai this season that CLEARS that

PatoNani | West

1 | 3 days ago

Maybe not clearing but I still think it’s better than Doncic last year because of how extremely well this young OKC team performs against any team when he’s on the floor despite having not Chet for the majority of the season. SGA ²⁰²⁴⁄₂₅ regular season is literally on par with prime Michael Jordan. He’s a huge plus on both sides of the floor statistically and also from the eye test. I felt like Doncic deserved the MVP last year as a generational floor general just like SGA but they gave it to the more established player Jokic after Embiid fell out because of injury.

cdillio | Thunder

1 | 3 days ago

Shai has better efficiency, impact metrics, advanced metrics and defensive metrics than Luka did last year.

MQZ01 | Warriors

1 | 3 days ago

True, and Luka had a weaker team and better playmaking/rebounding. I personally think Luka is better, but all I’m really trying to say is that it’s not a blowout either way

cdillio | Thunder

1 | 3 days ago

If he had such a weaker team his impact metrics would be higher.

AnkitPancakes | Thunder

-2 | 3 days ago

might be a dwade vs lebron situation

traw056 | Thunder

40 | 3 days ago

Shai vs Luka is the same as Shai vs Jokic just without the efficiency argument. Shai is a better scorer who plays significantly better defense but Luka passes much better and rebounds better.

SwaggyPsAndCarrots | Thunder

4 | 3 days ago

Luka’s scoring ceiling is higher than SGA’s, just SGA is more consistent and efficient

PatoNani | West

36 | 3 days ago

If you’re a fan of elite two way masters it’s SGA if you’re a fan of heliocentric offensive floor generals it’s Luka. Both are great on their own, hopefully Lakers vs OKC will meet in the playoffs.

Awkward_Event1966 | Thunder

21 | 3 days ago

Depends on what you need for your team in my opinion. SGA’s defense puts him ahead of Luka for me. Luka has been much better defensively on the Lakers though. I used to think Luka was the better scorer but this season id say SGA has taken the leap to make that category even. Only category I think Luka is truly better in is playmaking and you have to make the determination yourself if you want defense or playmaking more

here_for_the_lols | Thunder

13 | 3 days ago

I’d take Shai, he gives you the vast majority of what Luka does on offense, plus he’s a menace on defense. Second in the league in steals.

Both great talents though, I forsee many more crazy duels between them

552SD__ | Lakers

12 | 3 days ago

SGA gives you the same/slightly higher scoring on better efficiency, but he doesn’t provide anywhere near the passing/playmaking/shot creation for teammates that Luka does

ifitsootsyou | Thunder

13 | 3 days ago

Even though I concur with this sentiment that Luka brings better shot creation for his teammates and offensive orchestration, Shai also brings something Luka can’t match him on- on ball defense. One of the best shot blocking guards in the league and forces a decent amount of turnovers.

All in all, they each bring things to the game that are unique to their skill set. It’s a hard choice tbh.

here_for_the_lols | Thunder

4 | 3 days ago

Yes they each have the edge in slightly different ways which is why it’s a hotly debated topic. I would still take Shai but I can see why people might think otherwise

RCA1202 | Thunder

1 | 3 days ago

Shai’s playmaking has taken a leap this year

One of the most underrated parts of his game

552SD__ | Lakers

6 | 3 days ago

Definitely. Still nowhere near close to Luka’s

RCA1202 | Thunder

3 | 3 days ago

Agreed, but I think he’s a top 10-15 playmaker in the league at this point

pursueDOOM

0 | 3 days ago

Luka is a better passer no doubt, but I think Shais playmaking is underrated. Even if they are simple passes he creates almost all the offense for the team and a lot hockey assists and stuff like that isn’t as flashy as Lukas playmaking. I mean the on off numbers and advanced stats speak for themselves as well as the eye test when he goes off the floor you can see how much the offense can suffer at times.

SGA_is_PraviMVP

1 | 3 days ago

Yes but Luka can’t hold a candle to SGA’s defense which is like y’know….half the game. Laker fans gonna parrot Mavs fans now and attack Shai

YouWannaSeeADeadBody | Thunder

1 | 3 days ago

I know this is wishy washy, but he also has a way better attitude than Luka. He never bitches at the refs and doesnt get back on defense and his body language is always good

TheGreatLandRun | OKC

9 | 3 days ago

I think they’re close enough overall that one of them will elevate ever so slightly from season to season - this year, absolutely SGA. Last year? Luka, for sure.

I’d also entertain the argument that Luka is above SGA until SGA equals the postseason results.

aurorabortrealis | Thunder

6 | 3 days ago

We’ll see in the playoffs I guess! The West is going to be so fun this year, just hope everyone can be healthy

JumboHotdogz | Thunder

5 | 3 days ago

I like how this is a question now though. It was Luka for such a long time but now I won’t be called insane to take SGA.

Clear_Coast2017

2 | 3 days ago

Yes Steph did that

bbecks | Thunder

1 | 3 days ago

Both are great and there’s not a wrong answer IMO. They both have things they’re better at. Luka, like you said, has the passing/playmaking. SGA is a much better defender. It really depends on how the roster is built around them.

MuchAbouAboutNothing | Thunder

1 | 3 days ago

Who is better, SGA or Luka

Not this again lmao. We just got finished with this with Dallas fans

SGA_is_PraviMVP

1 | 3 days ago

Please Laker fans don’t bring this back in it again. We’re gonna have another chapter of Luka fans shitting on Shai next season I feel because they’ll use it to campaign an MVP for him lol.

To answer your question give me Shai for defense. 2-way Shai >

AtreusIsBack | NBA

-2 | 3 days ago

It’s easy to pick SGA in a year where Luka suffered a long term injury. Lol. Luka all day, every day. And until SGA beats him in the Playoffs, Luka is his dad.

LugNutsDort | Thunder

-15 | 3 days ago

Who is better? The guy who is MVP of the league or someone else? Huh? Re-read your question.

queezuswalks | Thunder

14 | 3 days ago

Don’t be a dick it’s undoubtedly a legit conversation to have

LiveVirus3 | Thunder

9 | 3 days ago

That’s fucking unnecessary.

iCarpet | Thunder

5 | 3 days ago

Come on man, let’s not just ignore the fact that Luka is an insanely good player too

552SD__ | Lakers

-10 | 3 days ago

Joker is better than SGA and he won’t win MVP. So take your sass and zero championships elsewhere

LugNutsDort | Thunder

3 | 3 days ago

No thank you. But you can take your stupid bait questions back to Facebook.

Iamkonkerz | OKC

1 | 3 days ago

Struck a nerve somewhere

552SD__ | Lakers

0 | 3 days ago

lol Struck a nerve? By SGA/OKC fans? Jokic knocked us out of playoffs twice in a row, I’m much more likely to triggered by him/nuggets fans

It’s a harmless question… dont get all pressed… be happy you guys might actually make the conference finals for the first time in over a decade

Iron_Maniac | Thunder

150 | 3 days ago

Shout out Dort 3pts and +35

queezuswalks | Thunder

60 | 3 days ago

This dude lusts after hitting a dagger

jslee0034 | Thunder

43 | 3 days ago

Dort high arc 3s as dagger hits different

queezuswalks | Thunder

27 | 3 days ago

I know it’s like slow motion lmao

itsnotyellowfever | MEM

131 | 3 days ago

At least we didn’t lose bc of a buzzer beater

Serious Marvin Bagley minutes just end me now

SGA is the MVP

topofthecc | Thunder

51 | 3 days ago

Did a double take when I saw Bagley. I thought he was overseas by now for sure.

Dillon-Cruz

32 | 3 days ago

He’s on the final year of a 3 year $37.5M contract that Detroit inexplicably gave him.

TripleThreatTua

17 | 3 days ago

Wtf was Troy Weaver doing

I don’t think a single Presti disciple has worked out on their own

cdillio | Thunder

3 | 3 days ago

I’m like 90% convinced Weaver was holding back Presti like wyrmtongue. As soon as he left we stopped drafting raw athletic wings that can’t shoot, Detroit immediately started doing that lol.

TripleThreatTua

1 | 3 days ago

We slipped back to the old ways a bit with Dieng lol

here_for_the_lols | Thunder

12 | 3 days ago

When Minutes Bigly the third drilled that first 3 it looked like he had turned over a new leaf. Unfortunately he immediately turned It back over - both the leaf and the ball.

carcie_spip | Thunder

3 | 3 days ago

Glad he’s back. Think he got injured against us early this year and it looked bad.

Ozmataz_Buckshank_ | Jazz

125 | 3 days ago

So what I’ve gathered is that the Thunder are 1st in 3 pointers allowed, 1st in points in the paint allowed, 1st in turnovers forced and 1st in turnovers committed. That’s actually scary lol. Can’t imagine that’s ever been done before

Roy30 | Thunder

74 | 3 days ago

Bunch of efficiency merchants.

NavalEnthusiast | Thunder

61 | 3 days ago

1st in PPG allowed by like 4 points even with the recent defensive skids. This is probably the best relative defense since 2004 pistons

TheBigBomma | Thunder

46 | 3 days ago

Chet and Hartenstein have played like 7 games together total as well.

SGA_is_PraviMVP

21 | 3 days ago

Tbf them mf’s still gotta figure it out cuz we definitely were shaky. The 2 Bigs should be matchup dependent as we stagger them. I want a 7’ rim protector at all times and if we gotta play up instead of drop give me Chet with Kenny at the 4 😂

TheBigBomma | Thunder

11 | 3 days ago

They’d never start Kenny. More likely to shift JDub back to the 4 if they were to do that.

SGA_is_PraviMVP

3 | 3 days ago

They absolutely would give Kenny burn if iHart is getting cooked in drop and Chet is getting switched out to corner on pin downs for mismatches. Granted the whole team can defend but if they start pulling up on iHart you swap him for Chet to go “small” at the 5 while having Kenny guard 4’s. If you need some offensive spark at that 4 while small you can use JWill especially if Shai is sitting as well to help be a connector and space the floor

Unlucky-Two-2834 | Thunder

11 | 3 days ago

OKC has almost the same DRTG (106) as the worst ORTG (105.5, Washington). When teams play OKC they have the same offensive output as the Wizards

KSabot | Thunder

109 | 3 days ago

Thank you Aaron Wiggins for calming down that comeback attempt.

jslee0034 | Thunder

37 | 3 days ago

That corner 3 just hit different

Apprehensive-Sir-411 | Thunder

69 | 3 days ago

Shai scored 31 points without free throws, and he’s a knockdown shooter now.

Iron_Maniac | Thunder

46 | 3 days ago

That deep dagger 3pt was the icing on the cake

jslee0034 | Thunder

13 | 3 days ago

Gave me goosebumps lol

OKC89ers

15 | 3 days ago

Straight up mocking them for leaving him unguarded 30 feet from the bucket

Swaglord03 | Thunder

63 | 3 days ago

Someone unbiased please try to explain why Shai isn’t the MVP…

552SD__ | Lakers

76 | 3 days ago

Have you checked the Joker’s advanced stats lately? Because it’s not even close

DARKO and FAPPER and EUROCUM all point to Jokic being the clear MVP

queezuswalks | Thunder

46 | 3 days ago

Lmao this almost got me

mangabalanga | Thunder

26 | 3 days ago

Describe in detail EUROCUM to me again

A_Lax_Nerd | OKC

15 | 3 days ago

Ejacs / total erections

Colts121844 | Thunder

74 | 3 days ago

Bc Aaron Wiggins plays for his team and that’s too much help !

BigCrawgaDawga | Thunder

20 | 3 days ago

Gotta sit Wiggins they’re canabalizing votes

NavalEnthusiast | Thunder

57 | 3 days ago

I’ve seen a lot of people say Shia’s supporting cast is way better. That’s true, but that’s mostly on the defensive end. The offense is a disaster without him

bbecks | Thunder

21 | 3 days ago

Yes the supporting cast is better but that doesn’t mean anything. Their impact is almost identical. Jokic’s on/off is about 20 and SGA’s is about 18. It’s just a higher floor to start from for SGA but impact doesn’t matter where the floor is.

SGA is a better defender, Jokic is a better player. Both are having insane years. But SGA driving OKC to run away with the 1 seed and potentially the best differential ever is going to get him the trophy.

Shakturi101 | Lakers

-10 | 3 days ago

If jokic is the better player, he should be mvp.

I prefer baseball on this where winning is mostly irrelevant to the award.

bbecks | Thunder

8 | 3 days ago

Being a better player doesn’t mean you’re having a better year.

Shakturi101 | Lakers

-6 | 3 days ago

Impact metrics slightly favor jokic and I’d say Denver loses more without jokic than pic does without shai.

I’d vote jokic.

Lower-Presence1386

4 | 3 days ago

Thank god you don’t have a vote. You clearly lack objectivity. SGA is the clear 2024-2025 MVP. He has the stats, the winning team, and the narrative.

Would not be surprised if he won unanimously

Shakturi101 | Lakers

1 | 3 days ago

Why does narrative and winning team matter for an individual award? That makes no logical sense.

It’s jokic, shai is close but his impact isn’t quite there.

If a team went 0-82, but a guy on their team has the best impact and advanced stats, then they should win MVP.

Lower-Presence1386

4 | 3 days ago

Narrative matters because NBA loves selling good storylines, also narratives influence voters decision -like politics. Shai is running away with the MVP narrative/conversation.

Team winning matters because wins in this context measure whether a players success actually translate to team success i.e, “most valuable”. Stats are meaningless if team isn’t winning - in which case a player’s individual success wouldn’t be seen as valuable as a player with both individual AND team success. The player with both will ⁸⁄₁₀ times be the favorite.

Shakturi101 | Lakers

1 | 3 days ago

But team record is influenced by a players teammates so it shouldn’t be considered for an individual award.

Isolating a players impact on winning through understanding how many points they are worth is the best way to measure mvp. The metrics we have aren’t perfect but they are better than just using team success.

By your logic Donovan Mitchell should be mvp anyway. Most impactful player on the top team.

KiwiCantReddit | Thunder

1 | 3 days ago

SGA has played ALL BUT ONE of OKCs games this year - they lost.

iCarpet | Thunder

11 | 3 days ago

It felt like the Grizzlies were going to race back early 4th with how disastrous it was without SGA on the floor

TraditionStrange9717

2 | 3 days ago

But then we immediately went on a 7 point run without sga on the floor…

amari_prince | Thunder

10 | 3 days ago

Give Wiggs his respect

PatoNani | West

8 | 3 days ago

Yeah I always hear them saying Shai’s team has the deepest roster but it’s only on the defensive end. Jdub and Chet are still too inconsistent on offense to be considered as All Star level offensive second options. However they will get to this level and will take the load of SGA he carried this season.

vindictivejazz | Thunder

27 | 3 days ago

Jokic is also having an absurd season. Both guys would be runaway MVPs in a normal year.

I think SGA is pretty solidly ahead rn tho

sixeyedbird | Lakers

3 | 3 days ago

I think if either player’s current season happened last year they would be pretty close to unanimous MVP

2025 Jokic washes 2024 Shai

2025 Shai washes 2024 Jokic

aurorabortrealis | Thunder

20 | 3 days ago

It’s still okay to have Jokic as MVP, his offensive numbers are genuinely ridiculous. Both would be deserving.

Why the fuck is the MVP conversation so stupid and toxic every year?

Sauce4243 | Thunder

9 | 3 days ago

This I don’t care who out of the two you have as leading as long as your willing to concede that the other is right there beside them in the same way I feel about the LeBron Jordan discussions.

aurorabortrealis | Thunder

2 | 3 days ago

Spot on

Swaglord03 | Thunder

0 | 3 days ago

Bro with the Thunder flair defending the Joker agenda is crazy 😭 Shai is the clear MVP, best scorer in the league and way ahead of Jokic on defense just MVP that man

Wise-Switch-5959 | Celtics

3 | 3 days ago

Jokic is averaging a triple double dude calm down

The1Drumheller | Thunder

50 | 3 days ago

Lu Dort special. 3 points on 1-7 shooting. +35.

yeahright17 | Thunder

12 | 3 days ago

Caruso with the -17. Both Caruso and Dorts +/- seem a bit off. But a combined +18 seems right.

Edit: Caso not Caruso. And it was -20.

McJacknife | Thunder

18 | 3 days ago

Caruso didn’t play

yeahright17 | Thunder

13 | 3 days ago

Yeah. Meant Caso. Oops. Thanks

McJacknife | Thunder

5 | 3 days ago

Haha all good. Caso +- being that low is indeed odd. Single games are weird though

bbecks | Thunder

4 | 3 days ago

Probably meant Cason

under9o | Thunder

47 | 3 days ago

good guy thunder making sure memphis didnt get their hearts broken by a last second shot for the 4th game in a row

PootieTooGood | Cavaliers

38 | 3 days ago

Thunder have so much, can they let Dieng go somewhere and get a chance to crack a rotation? @ only 21, consistent minutes to develop seem important considering he’s not playing g-league

jslee0034 | Thunder

35 | 3 days ago

He’s probably being traded this off season. We are also having 3 frps this off season so yeah.

The1Drumheller | Thunder

11 | 3 days ago

Stop being greedy, you already have Ty Jerome from us.

OKC2023champs | Thunder

6 | 3 days ago

I wanted to package him and kenrich Williams and a pick for someone like Coby white or sexton. We really needed a secondary ball handler.

jslee0034 | Thunder

15 | 3 days ago

Not kenny :(

OKC2023champs | Thunder

10 | 3 days ago

Someone’s gotta go to make salary work. And I love him but I do think he’s the most ‘expendable’ player

Roy30 | Thunder

7 | 3 days ago

I like the dude, but I’d agree with you. You remove just about anyone else and I hate it.

Chives15 | Thunder

10 | 3 days ago

Topic and Ajay will have a shot to fill that role next season

wrongerdonger

2 | 3 days ago

when does ajay come back? we need his ball handling

Chives15 | Thunder

2 | 3 days ago

A few more weeks at least

captainkhyron | OKC

2 | 3 days ago

We have Ajay and topic. Plus we get flagg this off-season.

Brian_lafeve34 | Thunder

3 | 3 days ago

Think there was a decent chance he would have been traded this year, he got hurt the night before the deadline

Unfortunately there aren’t a lot of players you can bring in using only his Salary.

cplbernard | Thunder

3 | 3 days ago

With the talent level already in place and the numbers of picks coming in, I think this is going to happen this off season.

TheBigBomma | Thunder

2 | 3 days ago

From what I’ve seen he doesn’t quite cut the NBA. All traits, but none of the intangible stuff, gets lost on the court, a general lack of game sense.

voltron818 | Thunder

2 | 3 days ago

Tell the Sixers to win more. If we get that pick plus the clippers pick, we’ll almost certainly move Dillon Jones and Dieng.

Personally I’d like to see Dieng in DC with Bilal. That would be a potentially fun pair.

vindictivejazz | Thunder

22 | 3 days ago

Man, how was Cason -20 in a 17 point win? Didn’t think he played badly

RFFF1996 | Thunder

28 | 3 days ago

Single game +/- can be like that

Sometimes shots just dont fall/rival team shots all go in when you are on the floor

bbecks | Thunder

11 | 3 days ago

+/- is seriously flawed for individual players especially for individual games. Over large stretches it’s a bit better but overall it’s a much better stat for groups of players. For a single dude there’s 9 other variables (his 4 teammates and the 5 opponents).

vindictivejazz | Thunder

2 | 3 days ago

Yeah I know it was just really surprising to see. Just unlucky tonight

Colts121844 | Thunder

22 | 3 days ago

The salamander!!

geupard12 | OKC

23 | 3 days ago

Shai really named Ares and we’re out here calling him the salamander instead of Zeus

Colts121844 | Thunder

17 | 3 days ago

I would’ve chosen like 8 names before salamander lmao

jslee0034 | Thunder

10 | 3 days ago

God of Thunder Zeus is MJ Washington

iCarpet | Thunder

17 | 3 days ago

“Charmeleon?” - Kenrich Williams

TheFishyNinja | Thunder

4 | 3 days ago

Brotha I can’t even

lmaoooyikes | Thunder

18 | 3 days ago

no offense but i really don’t like this nickname lol

TraditionStrange9717

13 | 3 days ago

That’s because it sucks

WeBelieveIn4 | Raptors

6 | 3 days ago

Never even heard of it before now. Who started calling him this? Redditors?

Mancharzilla | Thunder

0 | 3 days ago

The conundrum get hip

Dhr7468 | Thunder

21 | 3 days ago

Memphis played with great effort but really stupid on offense

Purednuht | Thunder

19 | 3 days ago

I don’t know if my body is ready for the playoffs.

biggoldgoblin

18 | 3 days ago

The Grizzlies are a first round exit

sheetsofsaltywood | Grizzlies

15 | 3 days ago

Looks like it

ImTheBestNerd | San Francisco Warriors

15 | 3 days ago

Thank You OKC 🙏

jslee0034 | Thunder

15 | 3 days ago

You guys about to face off the nuggets in round 1

Purednuht | Thunder

14 | 3 days ago

Wiggins and Dort lead our team in 3pt % and they are barely in the top 40.

Our only guy in the top 50 in 3pt attempts is Isiah Joe, sitting currently at 48 in the league.

I fricken love this team.

AnkitPancakes | Thunder

13 | 3 days ago

Grizzlies might need to have some tough conversations about Ja this summer. I feel in 2021 it was a real convo whether Ja or Shai was better, but it seems Ja has not really improved a whole lot since then.

enfirst2 | Jordan

15 | 3 days ago

At the start of the 4th when SGA is on the bench. Memphis cut the lead from 13 to 6 in 2 minutes. With SGA they increased the lead to 20.

He is absolutely the most valuable player in the league this season. He is 80% of Thunder’s offense. When he sits Thunder almost has no plan. And this will probably the reason for playoff disappointment this postseason. Thunder will have to make a big trade this offseason because they really need a reliable secondary scorer.

Dhr7468 | Thunder

12 | 3 days ago

Actually believe we had a 7-0 run to erase it before he came back.

enfirst2 | Jordan

3 | 3 days ago

Thanks for the correction i will correct the comment.

traw056 | Thunder

9 | 3 days ago

I mean they have 2 guys who have scored 40 this season and 3 more who have scored 30 within the past year. They don’t need another scorer. They need someone who can facilitate when Shai is off and they drafted that guy in the first round this year (he’s just been injured). They also got 2 first round picks coming up this year so if they don’t like him, they got two more chances to get the right guy.

enfirst2 | Jordan

4 | 3 days ago

JDub is more inconsistent this season than last year. I’m a believer in Wiggs but Mark’s rotation with him so unfair so i’m not sure Wiggins will have the chances to show himself in the playoffs. Probably we will watch Kenrich shooting contested middies.

pursueDOOM

4 | 3 days ago

Yeah Wiggins absolutely deserves more minutes, he’s such a beast. His decision making, 3 point shooting and finishing at the rim are all elite this year

Skank_hunt42 | Thunder

2 | 3 days ago

I really hope Topic can be that 6th man that we need. He was a potential top 3 pick before his injury.

LugNutsDort | Thunder

11 | 3 days ago

SALAMANDER! 🦎

OnxyCarter | Grizzlies

11 | 3 days ago

above all else i’m just not sold on vince. makes way too many stupid decisions

itsnotyellowfever | MEM

5 | 3 days ago

High energy guy but he’s a mess with his decision making

He’d probably be at his best with an S-tier playmaker to make all the decisions for him

jslee0034 | Thunder

4 | 3 days ago

He’s young af tho. He’ll be fine.

Midichlorian_counter | OKC

2 | 3 days ago

Yeah love the defensive motor but two really immature fouls just out on the perimeter for no reason.

Renegadeforever2024 | Raptors

9 | 3 days ago

Levels were shown

NavalEnthusiast | Thunder

9 | 3 days ago

Love watching the MVP play basketball

Iamkonkerz | OKC

9 | 3 days ago

I love how these threads are empty af (usually half the comments are sga hate the other is talking about the game) but an sga hate thread gets flooded immediately with people not watching said games.

Fiatil | Thunder

4 | 3 days ago

Modern sports discourse is broken. It’s not just OKC, but OKC is definitely getting the focus of that this year because they are very good. It’s annoying but it is what it is at this point.

Shout out to 20 years of Skip Bayless and Stephen A for this very predictable result.

Zeeron1 | Thunder

10 | 3 days ago

Ja is just not very good

jslee0034 | Thunder

16 | 3 days ago

I wanted more Ja minutes, less Pippen Jr minutes lol

jglab | OKC

9 | 3 days ago

Pippen Jr made it interesting. I don’t like that.

tompengu | Thunder

13 | 3 days ago

I don’t think that’s totally fair. He’s been hurt a lot of the year, and when he’s right, he’s still electric.

The Grizzlies did look better with him off the court, though. That surprised me. It felt like his frustration got the best of him.

itsnotyellowfever | MEM

16 | 3 days ago

His jumper is worse than Westbrook’s in 2025 and he almost entirely depends on driving to the rim and getting a whistle. His turnovers have become more and more erratic because he doesn’t get said whistle against teams who don’t have traffic cones as wing defenders.

His lack of a 3 point shot in particular kills this team bc everyone forces him to settle for bad 3s which he unsurprisingly misses badly

If the Grizzlies are a 1st round exit this year - which is absolutely possible - either Taylor Jenkins is being shown the door or Ja is getting traded.

tompengu | Thunder

4 | 3 days ago

It’s definitely been disappointing from the outside looking in. I’m probably off base lol, thank you for thoughts on the matter

Midichlorian_counter | OKC

4 | 3 days ago

The officiating was a little off and on for both sides, but ja taking like 4 or 5 completely unserious shots looking for calls and then complaining was tough to watch, can’t be great as a teammate either.

OctopusNation2024

7 | 3 days ago

Ironic that his main problem is that he can’t shoot lol

Padulsky21 | BKN

7 | 3 days ago

If anything I think it points to how fucking good JJJ is. Hes been their clear #1 on both sides of the ball and has many strides as a player. Ja has been rough to watch tho.

He’s a horrific 3pt shooter but steadily launches 3s and his efficiency elsewhere has plummeted. He hasn’t even played 40 games this season and it hasn’t been too pretty outside of the clutch shots. He’s also averaging about 4 turnovers a game.

Goombercules | Thunder

3 | 3 days ago

I don’t wanna hear shit about Shai’s soft whistle after that performance. At least he’s beating dudes to their spot. Ja got his points all night by driving shoulder first into a defender, throwing up some bullshit, and still gets the call.

Panashe13 | Thunder

7 | 3 days ago

31 on ¹⁴⁄₂₅ is pretty good aye.

OKC89ers

7 | 3 days ago

*41

CreditBoss1993 | Thunder

6 | 3 days ago

Wiggins is so automatic from 3 it’s insane. I get surprised when he misses now! Idk but he’s playing with all the confidence in the world rn

pursueDOOM

2 | 3 days ago

Bald Wiggs is built differently

jslee0034 | Thunder

7 | 3 days ago

MVP.

KDs--burner | Thunder

8 | 3 days ago

Ja just air balled again

here_for_the_lols | Thunder

9 | 3 days ago

Lu dort with 3 points and +35 lmao

iCE_P0W3R | Thunder

6 | 3 days ago

I love basketball!

LyonsKing12_ | Cavaliers

5 | 3 days ago

MVP this man

HugeZookeepergame815

4 | 3 days ago

I swear every time I look at Memphis game box scores they just rest like 3-4 different guy’s because you check the next game and all of a sudden they are available

iamkiwi_11

4 | 3 days ago

As a grizzlies fan, the only bright spot I see is that we’re not the Dallas Mavericks (I’m so sorry Mavs fans)

ymi17 | Thunder

1 | 3 days ago

Game flow made this feel like a professional win, but looking at the stats, everything is pretty even (Grizz with more boards, Thunder forced more TOs, but generally even).

Except for six three pointers made by the Thunder that were missed by the Grizzlies. And the Thunder win by exactly 17.

Sometimes, the analysis really is that simple.

llamas-1

-2 | 3 days ago

Is edey the worst defense center in NBA ? Feels like he’s bbq chicken

AtreusIsBack | NBA

-3 | 3 days ago

I am glad people finally see that Ja Morant is not what the media was trying to hype him up to be. He can be an all-star reserve on a good year, but that’s his ceiling. I can’t believe he was once compared to Luka in terms of skill and performance. There are levels to this.

tapk68 | Cavaliers

-6 | 3 days ago

The West is a joke.

Disastrous_Meet_1847

-13 | 3 days ago

Honestly, star players always resting against OKC in the regular season might come to haunt them in the playoffs.

IncaseAce | OKC

12 | 3 days ago

what rest? JJJ is injured.

Disastrous_Meet_1847

-8 | 3 days ago

My bad. Players rest so much against OKC.. I have started to assume it.

The Oklahoma City Thunder (51-11) defeat the Memphis Grizzlies (38-24), 120-103 behind SGA’s 41pts/8asts