I think a lot of this sub is too young to remember him as an executive but I don’t think I can over exaggerate when I tell you he was truly awful.

He didn’t just screw the Knicks up from a roster and cap situation, but was also found liable for sexual harassment, with Anucha Brown Sanders getting $11+ million as a result.

To your point, he’s not just bad as a basketball front executive in terms of team performance, but he’s a terrible person. Any team that has Thomas involved is doomed, and rightfully so.

“Thomas was actually pretty good at drafting, which is why what happens next makes me want to swallow my own eyeballs.” -Seth Rosenthal

Someone’s gotta do it and it is pretty interesting when you lay it all out there

We wanted to draft KG and he told his friends in the twolves fo how much he loved him and talked them into picking him instead lol

Maybe MJ was onto something.

Great players don’t always make good executives, coaches, etc. They often make terrible ones.

Calling him “the right hand man of Mat Ishbia” is just a lie. There’s nothing to support that. Maybe he’s had some sort of influence but there’s been nothing in the last several months to support that the influence has been measureable.

Those teams just misunderstood Isiah.

I forgot about Isiah Thomas for a hot minute and was so confused why people were mad at Isaiah Thomas

Wait, Zeke was responsible for the Beal trade? Lmaooooo

How did he bankrupt the CBA?

As a Bulls fan, I am mainly here for the delicious Isiah hate.

But I’d be remiss if i didn’t point out one of my favorite things in NBA history, Billy King rebuilding 3 different franchises during his tenure with the Nets…none of them being the Nets.

Rescued Atlanta from a terrible Joe Johnson contract.

Traded a pick to Portland for Gerald Wallace that turned in to Dame Lillard.

Rebuilt Boston to the powerhouse we see today trading a haul of draft capital to the Celtics for KG and Paul Pierce.

Legendary stuff.

I’d like to point out this man couldn’t read until well into his twenties.

Is this Michael Jordan’s throwaway account?

Zeke been trying to help the Pistons any way he can since he was drafted. Love Zeke.

Throwback to hating this man. He taught me how to hate

He had one of the most talented squads in the league in Indy and it was genuinely impressive how much they underperformed

Why is Jimmy to the Suns being trashed so much? I think he’s a perfect fit.

Crazy thing is Isiah’s track record with the draft if I’m not mistaken wasn’t all that bad. Just everything else was a mess. The Ishbia thing is interesting as given his age and Michigan ties, there’s a good chance Isiah was a childhood hero of his. I know the saying goes “never meet your heroes”, so having shared business interests might not be what’s it cracked up to be either.

It is the only thing he could ever do better than MJ.

Perfect example of players who do not excel in FO after their playing days are over.

I know the Suns trading for Beal was more of a luxury than a need. The fit with Booker has proven to be questionable.

But when the trade went down, people thought the Suns robbed the Wizards blindly by giving away pick swaps instead of actual picks. The consensus was “if Beal was that easy to get, why didn’t any other contending team try to pursue him?”

Beal didn’t move the needle much, but he is also the reason why the Suns went from play-in to playoffs last year. It was a trade that looked solid at the time, but regressed into bad because of the CBA.

So Ishbia saw all the damage Isiah has done and thought sign me up for that. He’s a bad owner and the sun’s are screwed as long as he owns the team,good times.

Franchises will always take chances on former champions to help them build championship teams and honestly, I think it’s fine if they do because at the end of the day most of the times when you’re recruiting for winners it’s not like most ppl know what the outcome of that decision is going to be. This is a hindsight ²⁰⁄₂₀ scenario.

Not that I care to defend Isaiah. I’m just saying that when you’re hiring someone to lead your franchise FO, you can have a little, or a lot to go off of, but the outcome will still be largely unpredictable, so former champions will get preferential treatment regardless of their record. Should they? I dunno. There’s plenty of examples going either way.

Detroit sleeper agent

You’d have to be a damn fool to believe mat ishbia takes orders from anyone, let alone Isiah Thomas.

Didn’t he destroy the ABA as well?

Ishbia needs to give him a shot at redemption.

Trading for durant ruined the future for the suns if we’re being fully honest.

I will never forget being absolutely gutted when I found out from Peter Vecsey on live TV that Thomas was going to take over coaching the Pacers instead of Rick Carlisle getting the job when Bird hung it up.

We traded Chris Paul and Landry Shamet for Bradley Beal, he was not involved (as far as we know) with the KD trade which included all the picks. If you’re going to try and lump us in there at least get it right damnit

He’s got a decent record at finding talent in the draft. Too bad he tries to do more.

I hurt myself today, to see if I could still feel the pain

What evidence do you have that he has had any involvement in the Suns operations?

A huge stretch calling him Ishbias right hand man. You’re legit making things up lol

I remember when the Raps announced his role. I hated him as a player, and even more in Management.

I did get to meet him and had him sign 50 special inaugural season balls as part of a marketing promotion. . He definitely is personable

Sorry but where is the source that he has any involvement in either the Beal or potential Butler trade? Ishbia can fuck shit up all by himself, friendship with Zeke not related.

I always thought the worst thing he did was bankrupt the CBA, so technically, he hurt all teams in the NBA.

The thing about the NBA is that it’s a highly specialized business requiring expertise that you can’t learn anywhere except in the NBA. This is why front offices and coaching staffs are basically filled with nepotism. Because unless you have a relative (preferably daddy) in these positions, you will never have an opportunity to get into the fold. So the competition for jobs at these places, despite routinely handing out six to seven figures annual salary, isn’t nearly as hot and heavy as they would be in a more robust job field.

Isiah Thomas, for all his shortcomings, is one of the few people with all the past credentials and experiences. One can argue his experiences have been failure, but at least he has industry knowledge that most people who may be smarter and more capable don’t know, and therefore can’t get opportunities in the first place.

damn all this slander about IT but nobody remembers him drafting mighty mouse, tmac, camby, ariza, david lee, nate rob

Not really, the average NBA owner is only marginally less trash at managing a billion dollar organization than the average NFL owner.

Is Isaiah Thomas the Trent Baalke of the NBA?

He’s great at identifying talent, but that’s it

Very trumplike

I feel sorry for him with his ridiculous false teeth. He lost his charming smile.

Ahh the Trent Baalke way of managing

Wait he works for the suns?

To be fair, if he wasn’t the GM of the first year Raptors, they might not be in Toronto today. He drafted better than Vancouver.

Lol

Op don’t forget he ruined the liberty for a while too. Not to mention he sexually assaulted staff there as well after already doing the same while he was on the Knicks.

I hate when he’s on NBA TV stuff, he’s completely irrelevant to me and I don’t want to hear a single thing that he has to say.